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''Again, welcome!''   --{{User:Pcj/sig}} 03:09, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
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|name=Belt of the Eternal
 
|itemid=47909
 
|quality=Epic
 
|ilvl=232
 
|icon=INV_Belt_52
 
|slot=Waist
 
|level=80
 
|durability=35
 
|sell={{cost|4|33|43}}
 
|bind=BoP
 
|effect=Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 40.<br />Equip: Increases spell power by 105.
 
|type=Cloth
 
|armor=178
 
|attrib=+68 Stamina<br />+64 Intellect<br />+64 Spirit
 
|sockets={{socket|Yellow}}
 
|sockbonus=+4 Intellect
 
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==Source==
 
This item drops from [[Anub'arak (Crusaders' Coliseum tactics)|Anub'arak]] for Horde players in the 10 man version of [[Trial of the Crusader]] on normal mode.
 
   
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== Frostborn ==
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Please see [[WP:NAME]]. Thanks. [[Frostborn]] is the correct location. --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] · [http://www.wowhead.com/?user=Skyfire w]) 18:59, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
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:First off, the names Frostborn and Frost dwarf are not synonymous to any extent. Just because the frost dwarves are part of the Frostborn does not necessarily mean that the Frostborn are all frost dwarves.
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:Secondly, "The Taunka" and "Taunka" would appear in this case to be synonymous, so in fact, the two pages should probably be merged. In the event that they are not synonymous (I do not know if they are or not), than the naming scheme they employ is an exemption to the rule, as the two need to be disambiguated somehow, and keeping them at their official names is easier than naming one of them "Taunka (faction)". --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] · [http://www.wowhead.com/?user=Skyfire w]) 19:21, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
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::Feel free to link the quests, though I'll take you on your word. I think then Frostborn simply needs to be redirected to Frost dwarf in this case, though I'm unsure. Let me think on it, or possibly broach it on [[WP:VP]]. --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] · [http://www.wowhead.com/?user=Skyfire w]) 19:33, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
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:::Negative. See [[Scale of the Sands|The Scale of the Sands]], [[Defilers|The Defilers]], and other such articles. [[WP:NAME]] says that we get rid of the "The" in names unless a disambiguation is needed or the page is about an item (I think there are a couple other exceptions, but those are the main ones). In this case, if we both agree that they should not be merged, than [[Frostborn]] is the correct location of the page. --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] · [http://www.wowhead.com/?user=Skyfire w]) 01:30, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
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::::Good call. It has been moved. :) --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] · [http://www.wowhead.com/?user=Skyfire w]) 02:51, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
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== No pic thing ==
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I hope I didn't come off like a butthead. You didn't do anything wrong. [[User:Coobra|Coobra]] shouldn't have made the change to [[Wowpedia:Nopics]]. That was essentially changing policy without any input. --[[Image:gengar orange 22x22.png]]&nbsp;[[User:Fandyllic|<span style="border-bottom:1px dotted; cursor:help;" title="Admin">Fandyllic</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Fandyllic|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Fandyllic|contr]])</small> 8:35 PM PST 6 Sep 2008
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:I only placed that there because I was told those images shouldn't be used on in-game NPCs cause screenshots can be easily added... by an admin I might add. I don't remember where the conversation took place or who with, but apparently it was on July 22. {{User:Coobra/Sig3}} 08:25, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
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== Yorg Stormheart ==
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I took as reference the [[Talk:Muradin_Bronzebeard#Yorg_Stormheart|talk page of Muradin Bronzebeard]] where important editors and Ragestorm too took part stating that he is a mountain [[dwarf]] and perhaps Muradin Bronzebeard in person. However if you have other sources... --[[User:N&#39;Nanz|N&#39;Nanz]] ([[User talk:N&#39;Nanz|talk]]) 09:43, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
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:No, stoneform is the ability of a [[dwarven avatar]] to turn into stone. However [[stoneform]] is the article related to the racial ability of dwarven playable race thus [[dwarven avatar]] is the best link to use. --[[User:N&#39;Nanz|N&#39;Nanz]] ([[User talk:N&#39;Nanz|talk]]) 08:48, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
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I was too lazy to word it differently in Muradin's page. Feel free to change it if you want to, I just wanted to make sure people know these things. [[User:Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart|Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart]] ([[User talk:Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart|talk]]) 20:01, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
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Oh. Well, I'm not really sure. I didn't know you put it there and I just thought, "Hey, it's on Yorg's page, why not put it on Muradin's?" [[User:Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart|Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart]] ([[User talk:Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart|talk]]) 20:06, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
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== Sig ==
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Images in signatures that takes up more than the line height is still frowned upon, as it uses too much space. Maximum is 20 pixels height. I suggest using a different image or not an image at all, and instead using text. {{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 04:00, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
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== Mag'har do not belong on the race templates. ==
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From what I've seen, races that have different "species" need at least two or more unique characteristics that separates them from the main race to make it on the races template.
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Mag'har really only have one. Brown skin. [[User:Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart|Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart]] ([[User talk:Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart|talk]]) 19:42, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
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Earthen also have a different language and different architecture. [[User:Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart|Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart]] ([[User talk:Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart|talk]]) 20:28, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
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I did. Gourra still hasn't said anything about it. [[User:Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart|Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart]] ([[User talk:Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart|talk]]) 20:37, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
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Fine >_<. [[User:Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart|Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart]] ([[User talk:Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart|talk]]) 20:41, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
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== Speculation ==
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Please do not put non-sourced speculation in articles, this is per [[WP:DNP]]. Thanks. --{{User:Pcj/sig}} 22:30, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
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==Category==
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I never touched the category's name. Wrong person. [[User:Rolandius|Rolandius]] [[Image:Paladin.gif|25px]] <small>([[User talk:Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Talk">talk</span>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Contributions">contr</span>]])</small> 03:37, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
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== Ulduar Earthen ==
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Race names by Blizzard has always been with both words starting with a capital letter, see for example [[Night elf]] and [[Blood elf]]. Ulduar Earthen is no different, and it should be Ulduar earthen according to [[WP:NAME]]. {{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 11:51, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
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I aplogise if I insulted you in any part of my text. I was getting rather frustrated. However, re-reading the Discs of Norgannon has convinced me that you were correct. I'm going to take some time to rethink the material.
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Remember, however, that when writting things in the article you have to point to their source. That means that you should point to [[Lore Keeper of Norgannon]] or the the related quest that contains this text as one of your sources. Otherwise people like me will be automatically skeptical (as they should).
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--[[User:Richeron|Richeron]] <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User_talk:Richeron|T]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Richeron|C]]<nowiki>]</nowiki> 00:28, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
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== Frost dwarf image ==
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Your version of [[:Image:IconSmall_FrostDwarf_Male.gif‎]] is going to be replaced unless you make a better one. Despite any inaccuracies you may think are in Varghedin's version, it looks like a dwarf, whereas yours does not. Please upload your version under a different name. --[[Image:gengar orange 22x22.png]]&nbsp;[[User:Fandyllic|<span style="border-bottom:1px dotted; cursor:help;" title="Admin">Fandyllic</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Fandyllic|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Fandyllic|contr]])</small> 5:09 PM PST 18 Dec 2008
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:Please upload your new image (this is it, right: http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/wowwiki/images/archive/1/1b/20081219003747!IconSmall_Frost_Dwarf_Male.gif) under a different name. It is better, but the dwarf's head still seems vertically squashed. What's that stuff going on in the lower part of the image? --[[Image:gengar orange 22x22.png]]&nbsp;[[User:Fandyllic|<span style="border-bottom:1px dotted; cursor:help;" title="Admin">Fandyllic</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Fandyllic|talk]] &middot; [[Special:Contributions/Fandyllic|contr]])</small> 3:45 PM PST 19 Dec 2008
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::Those are braids in his beard (got them from the frost dwarf image i uploaded.(not the icon i mean the first frost dwarf image i uploaded, the one on the frostborn and frost dwarf pages.))--{{User:Whitedragon254/Sig}} 03:53, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
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:Okay, I see they are supposed to be braid holders. I guess I don't think the braids or braid holders are necessary, since they just happen to be in the one screen capture you got. I'm pretty sure the braids or the holders are not distinct to frost dwarves. --[[Image:gengar orange 22x22.png]]&nbsp;[[User:Fandyllic|<span style="border-bottom:1px dotted; cursor:help;" title="Admin">Fandyllic</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Fandyllic|talk]] &middot; [[Special:Contributions/Fandyllic|contr]])</small> 12:04 PM PST 22 Dec 2008
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::: [http://upload.wowhead.com/images/screenshots/95492.jpg] How is that beard not blue? Yes, it's darker than in my image but it's definitely blue. --{{User:Varghedin/Sig}} 11:49, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
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::::I think the darkness was more an issue than the blueness. --[[Image:gengar orange 22x22.png]]&nbsp;[[User:Fandyllic|<span style="border-bottom:1px dotted; cursor:help;" title="Admin">Fandyllic</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Fandyllic|talk]] &middot; [[Special:Contributions/Fandyllic|contr]])</small> 12:04 PM PST 22 Dec 2008
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== Re: Adminship ==
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You can reapply a second time, but it's unlikely you'll pass the second time unless you've changed the negative behaviors that are noticed in the first request for adminship. --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] · [http://www.wowhead.com/?user=Skyfire w]) 17:24, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
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== Anasterian image ==
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Where on Wowhead did you get [[:File:Anasterian.jpg‎]]? I can not find it under [http://www.wowhead.com/?search=Anasterian Anasterian].--{{User:Sandwichman2448/Sig}} 22:18, February 22, 2010 (UTC)
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:Nevermind.--{{User:Sandwichman2448/Sig}}
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== Hey ==
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Hey, you still alive? -[[user:takakenji]]

Revision as of 05:30, 3 January 2011

Again, welcome!   --PcjWowpedia wiki manager (TDrop me a line!C207,729 contributions and counting) 03:09, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Frostborn

Please see WP:NAME. Thanks. Frostborn is the correct location. --Sky (t · c · w) 18:59, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

First off, the names Frostborn and Frost dwarf are not synonymous to any extent. Just because the frost dwarves are part of the Frostborn does not necessarily mean that the Frostborn are all frost dwarves.
Secondly, "The Taunka" and "Taunka" would appear in this case to be synonymous, so in fact, the two pages should probably be merged. In the event that they are not synonymous (I do not know if they are or not), than the naming scheme they employ is an exemption to the rule, as the two need to be disambiguated somehow, and keeping them at their official names is easier than naming one of them "Taunka (faction)". --Sky (t · c · w) 19:21, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
Feel free to link the quests, though I'll take you on your word. I think then Frostborn simply needs to be redirected to Frost dwarf in this case, though I'm unsure. Let me think on it, or possibly broach it on WP:VP. --Sky (t · c · w) 19:33, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
Negative. See The Scale of the Sands, The Defilers, and other such articles. WP:NAME says that we get rid of the "The" in names unless a disambiguation is needed or the page is about an item (I think there are a couple other exceptions, but those are the main ones). In this case, if we both agree that they should not be merged, than Frostborn is the correct location of the page. --Sky (t · c · w) 01:30, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Good call. It has been moved. :) --Sky (t · c · w) 02:51, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

No pic thing

I hope I didn't come off like a butthead. You didn't do anything wrong. Coobra shouldn't have made the change to Wowpedia:Nopics. That was essentially changing policy without any input. --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 8:35 PM PST 6 Sep 2008

I only placed that there because I was told those images shouldn't be used on in-game NPCs cause screenshots can be easily added... by an admin I might add. I don't remember where the conversation took place or who with, but apparently it was on July 22. User:CoobraSssssssssssssssssssssssss User:CoobraFor Pony! {TDon't hiss at me.CIf you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.) 08:25, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Yorg Stormheart

I took as reference the talk page of Muradin Bronzebeard where important editors and Ragestorm too took part stating that he is a mountain dwarf and perhaps Muradin Bronzebeard in person. However if you have other sources... --N'Nanz (talk) 09:43, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

No, stoneform is the ability of a dwarven avatar to turn into stone. However Inv gauntlets 03 [Stoneform] is the article related to the racial ability of dwarven playable race thus dwarven avatar is the best link to use. --N'Nanz (talk) 08:48, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

I was too lazy to word it differently in Muradin's page. Feel free to change it if you want to, I just wanted to make sure people know these things. Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart (talk) 20:01, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Oh. Well, I'm not really sure. I didn't know you put it there and I just thought, "Hey, it's on Yorg's page, why not put it on Muradin's?" Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart (talk) 20:06, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Sig

Images in signatures that takes up more than the line height is still frowned upon, as it uses too much space. Maximum is 20 pixels height. I suggest using a different image or not an image at all, and instead using text. g0urra[T҂C] 04:00, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Mag'har do not belong on the race templates.

From what I've seen, races that have different "species" need at least two or more unique characteristics that separates them from the main race to make it on the races template.

Mag'har really only have one. Brown skin. Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart (talk) 19:42, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Earthen also have a different language and different architecture. Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart (talk) 20:28, 16 October 2008 (UTC)


I did. Gourra still hasn't said anything about it. Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart (talk) 20:37, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Fine >_<. Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart (talk) 20:41, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Speculation

Please do not put non-sourced speculation in articles, this is per WP:DNP. Thanks. --PcjWowpedia wiki manager (TDrop me a line!C207,729 contributions and counting) 22:30, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Category

I never touched the category's name. Wrong person. Rolandius Paladin (talk - contr) 03:37, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Ulduar Earthen

Race names by Blizzard has always been with both words starting with a capital letter, see for example Night elf and Blood elf. Ulduar Earthen is no different, and it should be Ulduar earthen according to WP:NAME. g0urra[T҂C] 11:51, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

I aplogise if I insulted you in any part of my text. I was getting rather frustrated. However, re-reading the Discs of Norgannon has convinced me that you were correct. I'm going to take some time to rethink the material. Remember, however, that when writting things in the article you have to point to their source. That means that you should point to Lore Keeper of Norgannon or the the related quest that contains this text as one of your sources. Otherwise people like me will be automatically skeptical (as they should).

--Richeron [T | C] 00:28, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Frost dwarf image

Your version of Image:IconSmall_FrostDwarf_Male.gif‎ is going to be replaced unless you make a better one. Despite any inaccuracies you may think are in Varghedin's version, it looks like a dwarf, whereas yours does not. Please upload your version under a different name. --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 5:09 PM PST 18 Dec 2008

Please upload your new image (this is it, right: 20081219003747!IconSmall_Frost_Dwarf_Male.gif) under a different name. It is better, but the dwarf's head still seems vertically squashed. What's that stuff going on in the lower part of the image? --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 3:45 PM PST 19 Dec 2008
Those are braids in his beard (got them from the frost dwarf image i uploaded.(not the icon i mean the first frost dwarf image i uploaded, the one on the frostborn and frost dwarf pages.))--User:Whitedragon254You know im seriously 1337 now. {T1337 to the extreme.CThe dragon protects me...that and my MG 30 glock of course..) 03:53, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I see they are supposed to be braid holders. I guess I don't think the braids or braid holders are necessary, since they just happen to be in the one screen capture you got. I'm pretty sure the braids or the holders are not distinct to frost dwarves. --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 12:04 PM PST 22 Dec 2008
[1] How is that beard not blue? Yes, it's darker than in my image but it's definitely blue. ---- Varghedin Varghedin  talk / contribs 11:49, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
I think the darkness was more an issue than the blueness. --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 12:04 PM PST 22 Dec 2008

Re: Adminship

You can reapply a second time, but it's unlikely you'll pass the second time unless you've changed the negative behaviors that are noticed in the first request for adminship. --Sky (t · c · w) 17:24, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Anasterian image

Where on Wowhead did you get File:Anasterian.jpg‎? I can not find it under Anasterian.--SWM2448 22:18, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind.--SWM2448

Hey

Hey, you still alive? -user:takakenji