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Pre-wotlk speculation

LOL As of this point everything that links here is a redirect.--SWM2448 20:24, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Fierce and unfriendly? does that mean they won't be "alliance" flagged, or that they're just grumpy? Xlel 23:47, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm guessing the latter, but it is too soon to say.--SWM2448 00:13, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

With todays bestiary update it seems they are hostile. Course there could be a friendly faction similar to the Thorium Brotherhood which could be the Alliance friendly. Leviathon 19:50, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Judging from the fact that they are destroying artifacts which are links to the past, I doubt they'll get along with any dwarves...Aliron 22:41, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Well its possible there is a small group who doesn't agree with what their brethren are doing and ally with the Alliance being the Alliance counterpart to the Taunka and the Horde. At least the Taunka have horde towns labeled for them that are readable (Winter Tauren towns). But near the Grizzly Hills border is a alliance town in Howling Fjord which is un-readable so its possible that could be a Iron Dwarves town. Leviathon 22:55, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

I think it's more likely that it's a furbolg town. --User:Vorbis/Sig 10:27, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

But Grizzlemaw is a neutral faction it seems. I would just think maybe its possible that it would be a Iron Dwarves town since that is where they were first discovered similar to how Taunka were first seen in Borean Tundra. Leviathon 17:47, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

But there is NO evidence pointing to the Iron Dwarves being anything but hostile. the town is near Furbolgs, who are neutral, not hostile. There's just no reason at all that the Iron Dawrves would be in a town controlled by the Alliance, despite speculation of small groups that disagree with the majority. Aliron 23:58, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

After re-doing the Howling Fjord Design Layout map I kinda figured that it is unlikely that was a Iron Dwarves town. Can see Blizzard just taking the easy way out and using the Explorers' League as the Alliances counterpart to the Hordes Taunka. Leviathon 00:24, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

And we don't know that the Taunka are Horde for sure...they may be neutral, or even hostile. We can't for sure say that there are going to be certain races allied with other races until Blizzard tells us, "Yeah, Taunka are going to help Thrall up in Northrend."Aliron 23:20, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

It is pretty clear that Taunka are friendly to Horde. Since Winter Tauren villages wouldn't mean anything else. Leviathon 16:48, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I have no idea what anyone means by "winter tauren village". I just looked it up and there's nothing called Winter Tauren Village.Aliron 00:06, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

It is from BlizzCon. Read about it on Talk:Borean Tundra.--SWM2448 00:12, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

The "Winter Tauren Village" is what Blizzard named the Horde town in Borean Tundra. Most towns on the Blizzcon maps just had general names describing what it was (such as Winter Tauren Village, Tuskarr Village, Alliance Town and etc.) and not the names of the actual town. The Dragonblight map though for the Horde town does have the word Taunka in parenthesis. Leviathon 03:47, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Specluation - Relation To IF?

I highly doubt this, personally. Ironforge was so-called after the bloodline and the fact it sounds, well, Dwarveny. After all, iron and forging is all they seem to bloody do back in those days (before the Explorers' League, that is). I doubt there is any actual correlation with the race of 'Iron Dwarves', and are just called as so for the same reason - it sounds Dwarveny. I may be wrong, after all, but what stops the Iron Dwarves from being linked with the reason of Dwarf civilisation too, especially if they are the unanimous 'missing link'? The claim on the page just seems a bit too specific for my liking, as if the original author really didn't think... Melaisis 22:24, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Well one minor correcton, the Ironforge clan, city, etc, was named after the Ironforge, an ancient titan artifact kept in the Hall of Thanes.Baggins (talk) 18:10, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Mmmm, not so much IF dwarves I think, but perhaps the vrykul, projenators of humanity. There are some "iron vrykul" it would seem, as there are a few screenshots of 3 different iron vrykul on mmo-champions, plus one of the bosses in Ulduar is apparently one of these iron vrykul. Yrrar, Lord of the Vrykul (talk) 02:36, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

On the Race origins page they put something about the stony or flesh versions comming from the Iron versions. I disagree, and I stated my reasons here. The Disks of Norgannon quest supports the fact that the origina earthen were the stone earthen, and not the iron earthen. I think the later are exclusively Loken's creation.

--Richeron [T | C] 14:30, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Classes

I recently fixed up the page and went through all the known iron dwarf mobs, Right now there is Runemaster, Warrior, Hunter, Shaman (yes shaman, alot of npcs have shaman spells), Mage, Priest. If you find these classes strange, go to wowhead and look up iron dwarf. The Same Model as thing, then go through the npcs there. --Whitedragon254 (talk) 17:02, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

darkiron

how are they related to darkiron dwarves --Zinlis (talk) 18:03, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

they arent Noobi666 (talk) 13:34, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

They might be - not necessarily in terms of bloodline, but diplomatically. The tunnelers the Dark Iron use during brewfest are the same as the tunnelers that the Iron dwarves use in one of the quests near Thor Modan. The Dark Iron dwarves also seem to do more with iron and less with stone than the other "stone" dwarves do. On the other hand, I can't really see iron dwarves allying with any form of stone dwarf. --WoWWiki-Bobson (talk) 15:15, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

They are just the same because blizzard tends to be lazy they also share the cranes and scaffolding near the Iron colossus construction cradle likely for the same reason. But I can see them being on good terms in the possible future with the fact that they both indirectly serve the old gods Iron trough Loken and dark-iron (maybe if they are still in control of him to any degree)through RagnarosSargeLIVES (talk) 23:24, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

Iron Rune dwarf

So are Iron Rune dwarves a new race, a clan of Iron dwarves, a species of Iron dwarves, etc? Rolandius (talk - contr) 05:10, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Cleaned out the speculation, as I ran across the quests that confirm that the Iron Dwarves are made by Loken in the Forge of Wills. I have posted where I got the information from. I would also like to note that Cretus has no page yet, despite him being a quest giver to which this information is relevant. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Carnagefiend (talk · contr).

That's because his name is actually Creteus. Also, please sign your posts with four tildes (~) on talk pages. It helps identify who said who and makes the flow of discussion easier to see. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 22:35, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

overreferrenced

The Stoneforge is referenced in both the Alliance and Horde versions of "Demolishing Megalith". Unless there is new information shown in the second reference, I would say: Choose One. Having two references to the same material does not advance the cause of referencing the material, unless one or both sources are deemed unreliable and confirmation is desired. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 22:44, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

"Stormforged"

Stormforged banner?

Is it just something earthens call the iron dwarves in Storm Peaks or could it be called an iron dwarf organization, much like the Thorium Brotherhood? TherasTaneel (talk) 00:17, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

It may be their ordinary name and possibly their originSargeLIVES (talk) 23:27, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

I just call them the Iron army due to a name of a drop from the assembly of iron calling them that--Ashbear160 (talk) 01:07, 31 May 2011 (UTC)