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|icon=INV_Egg_03
 
|name=Blue Murloc Egg
 
|quality=Rare
 
|bind=BoP
 
|effect=Use: Right Click to summon and dismiss your Murky.
 
|ilvl=20
 
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[[image:MurkyPet.jpg|thumb|A Murky pet]]
 
[[Image:MurkyDance.gif|thumb|Murky dancing]]
 
   
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{{Proposal}}
The '''Blue Murlog Egg''' item summons and dismisses Murky, a blue baby [[murloc]] [[small pet]] that follows you around.
 
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I propose we remove the "Quest:" prefix from quest pages for consistency with every other type of content page. Standard disambiguation naming can apply for any collisions. I raised the point in IRC but found no good reason why we keep it this way. So I want to get others' opinions on this. --{{User:Pcj/sig}} 16:30, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
   
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{{Baby murloc small pets}}
 
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===Votes===
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;<span style="color:#44CC44;">Yes</span>: <!-- Add: {{vote|Yes|~~ ~~|optional comment}} below (remove space between "~ ~")-->
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{{vote|Yes|sig={{User:Pcj/sig}} 16:30, 16 April 2011 (UTC)||Nominated}}
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{{vote|yes|sig=[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|talk]]) 17:53, 16 April 2011 (UTC)|I have long advocated for this. It's long overdue and should have been done ''before'' Cataclysm. (See [[WP:Namespaces]]/[[WT:Namespaces]] for a few of my musings.)}}
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{{vote|Yes|—[[User:Egingell|<span class="ajaxttlink">EGingell</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Egingell|T]][[Special:Contributions/Egingell|C]]</sup> {{User:Egingell/Playerlink|Cenarion Circle|Treader|Treader of Cenarion Circle}} 18:07, 16 April 2011 (UTC)|Unless you make Quest a real namespace (hard coding it in LocalSettings.php is required for this), then they're really in the main namespace anyway.}}
   
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{{AlsoSee|[[Pink Murloc Egg]], [[Lurky's Egg]]}}
 
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{{vote|No|sig={{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 16:33, 16 April 2011 (UTC)|"If it's not broken, don't fix it". Just because it is POSSIBLE doesn't mean that it's OKAY.}}
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{{vote|No|[[User:Neutralion|Neutralion]] ([[User talk:Neutralion|talk]]) 19:35, 16 April 2011 (UTC)|Against. It will make A LOT of mess and many quests will end like Name (quest) anyway. At last, preffix looks better.}}
   
==Source==
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=== Comments ===
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During [[BlizzCon]] 2005, cards with special codes were given out to attendees to obtain the Blue Murloc Egg in-game. This pet is only available to them, and the code is redeemable only once for a single character.
 
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For collisions, we have something of a hierarchy between similar names. I presume quests would be at the bottom of the hierarchy, which is essentially where they are now with the pseudo-namespace. --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|talk]]) 17:58, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
   
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If it's to remove the pseudo-namespace, then make Quest: a namespace. There is really no need to change how it is - unless you want to break thousands of pages/links. --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 18:38, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
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{{Alliance Icon Small}}'''How to obtain:''' ''(Alliance)''
 
* To obtain Murky, head to ''[[Forlorn Cavern|The Forlorn Cavern]]'' section in [[Ironforge]] in the [[dwarf|dwarven]] area, [[Dun Morogh]].
 
* Head to the shore of the pond where [[Ransin Donner]], a dwarf stands with Murky, the blue baby murloc small pet.
 
* Talk to him to enter your code.<br><br>
 
   
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:That's a false dilemma or possibly a strawman. There's no reason why moving thousands of articles should break thousands of pages/links and I'm not sure where you got the notion. And yes, we should change it: for ''ease'' of future linking and searching. --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|talk]]) 18:50, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
{{Horde Icon Small}}'''How to obtain:''' ''(Horde)''
 
* To obtain Murky, head to the ''[[Valley of Honor]]'' section in [[Orgrimmar]] in the [[orc|orcish]] land of [[Durotar]].
 
* You'll see a dock in a small pond where [[Zas'Tysh]], an orc, stands with Murky, the blue baby murloc small pet.
 
* Talk to him to enter your code.
 
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::From the uses of {{t|quest}} and {{t|questlong}}, links WILL break. Unless you have a grand plan for fixing that, too. --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 19:38, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
==Notes==
 
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:::Uh, remove Quest: from those templates. --{{User:Pcj/sig}} 19:44, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
 
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::::And the pages that they link to? You'll bot those links as well? --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 19:48, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
From Blizzcon 2007 through sometime in the first half of 2008 both Ransin Donner and Zas'Tysh wore a [[Murloc Costume|murloc costume]].
 
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:::::The quest pages themselves? I thought that was the idea... --{{User:Pcj/sig}} 20:13, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
 
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::::::...that's not what I meant. If [[:Quest:Skullcrusher the Mountain (Horde)]] gets moved, how are the links going to be, through uses of for example <nowiki>{{quest|Skullcrusher the Mountain (Horde)|Skullcrusher the Mountain}}</nowiki>? Will the disambiguation page be [[Skullcrusher the Mountain (quest)]], and will ''that'' page be handled like the disambiguated quest pages are now? --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 20:48, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
In dialog, both Ransin Donner and Zas'Tysh still offer to redeem the code for Murky as of June 6, 2008.
 
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:::::::Yes, exactly. --{{User:Pcj/sig}} 20:57, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
 
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===Official Description===
 
:''Many would say that the Murlocs are filthy, slimy creatures with no greater purpose in life than to serve as expendable sparring partners for aspiring heroes. Do you believe this? Think again! Mindless killings and raids on their homes have left thousands upon thousands of Murlocs dead or wounded, and each day the slaughter continues.''
 
 
:''Have you ever invaded a Murloc settlement and drenched your blade in their green blood? Have you ever ended the life of one of these poor, defenseless creatures as it was desperately trying to escape back into the safety of a nearby river or the sea, the Murloc's true home? Yes? Then it is time you made up for the pain and suffering you have caused these gentle animals!''
 
 
:''Through the Murloc adoption program you will have a chance to get to know these fascinating and playful creatures from a whole new perspective. Many young Murlocs are left without their parents as pillaging gangs of so-called heroes eradicate entire tribes, leaving the unhatched Murloc eggs without protection against hungry crocolisks, raptors, and other dangers that threaten a young Murloc's life. Many kind souls have saved abandoned eggs from ravaged Murloc settlements, and you can help us hatch these eggs and care for your very own baby Murloc. If you have been given a special code that certifies you as a qualified Murloc handler, please follow the instructions below to turn in your code and to receive your new best friend in the World of Warcraft.''
 
 
===Expiration===
 
On September, 12th 2006 it was announced on the [http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=23552362&sid=1&pageNo=1 US forums] that BlizzCon gift cards which were given on BlizzCon 2005 were going to expire on October, 28th 2006 at 12:01 AM PDT, though after many requests it was [http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=36573664&sid=1 announced] that all the murloc codes will be still active till further announcement and only the beta keys have been expired on October, 28th 2006.
 
 
== External links ==
 
{{elinks-item|20371}}
 
{{Elink-WarcraftPets|aquatic/murlocs/murky}}
 
 
[[Category:Small Pets]]
 
[[Category:Murlocs]]
 
[[Category:BlizzCon]]
 
[[Category:City:Ironforge]]
 
[[Category:City:Orgrimmar]]
 
[[Category:World of Warcraft rare items]]
 

Revision as of 22:04, 16 April 2011

Forums: Village pump → Remove quest prefix from quest pages

I propose we remove the "Quest:" prefix from quest pages for consistency with every other type of content page. Standard disambiguation naming can apply for any collisions. I raised the point in IRC but found no good reason why we keep it this way. So I want to get others' opinions on this. --PcjWowpedia wiki manager (TDrop me a line!C207,729 contributions and counting) 16:30, 16 April 2011 (UTC)


Votes

Yes
  1. Yes PcjWowpedia wiki manager (TDrop me a line!C207,729 contributions and counting) 16:30, 16 April 2011 (UTC) - (Nominated)
  2. yes [User:Sky2042 - (Sky]] (talk) 17:53, 16 April 2011 (UTC))
  3. YesEGingellTC Treader of Cenarion Circle 18:07, 16 April 2011 (UTC) - (Unless you make Quest a real namespace (hard coding it in LocalSettings.php is required for this), then they're really in the main namespace anyway.)
No
  1. No g0urra[T҂C] 16:33, 16 April 2011 (UTC) - ("If it's not broken, don't fix it". Just because it is POSSIBLE doesn't mean that it's OKAY.)
  2. No Neutralion (talk) 19:35, 16 April 2011 (UTC) - (Against. It will make A LOT of mess and many quests will end like Name (quest) anyway. At last, preffix looks better.)

Comments

For collisions, we have something of a hierarchy between similar names. I presume quests would be at the bottom of the hierarchy, which is essentially where they are now with the pseudo-namespace. --Sky (talk) 17:58, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

If it's to remove the pseudo-namespace, then make Quest: a namespace. There is really no need to change how it is - unless you want to break thousands of pages/links. --g0urra[T҂C] 18:38, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

That's a false dilemma or possibly a strawman. There's no reason why moving thousands of articles should break thousands of pages/links and I'm not sure where you got the notion. And yes, we should change it: for ease of future linking and searching. --Sky (talk) 18:50, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
From the uses of {{quest}} and {{questlong}}, links WILL break. Unless you have a grand plan for fixing that, too. --g0urra[T҂C] 19:38, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Uh, remove Quest: from those templates. --PcjWowpedia wiki manager (TDrop me a line!C207,729 contributions and counting) 19:44, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
And the pages that they link to? You'll bot those links as well? --g0urra[T҂C] 19:48, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
The quest pages themselves? I thought that was the idea... --PcjWowpedia wiki manager (TDrop me a line!C207,729 contributions and counting) 20:13, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
...that's not what I meant. If Quest:Skullcrusher the Mountain (Horde) gets moved, how are the links going to be, through uses of for example {{quest|Skullcrusher the Mountain (Horde)|Skullcrusher the Mountain}}? Will the disambiguation page be B [30-35] Skullcrusher the Mountain, and will that page be handled like the disambiguated quest pages are now? --g0urra[T҂C] 20:48, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Yes, exactly. --PcjWowpedia wiki manager (TDrop me a line!C207,729 contributions and counting) 20:57, 16 April 2011 (UTC)