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{{Racebox
 
| image = CentaurArt.jpg
 
| name = Centaurs
 
| capital = [[Maraudon]]
 
| faction = None
 
| character = [[Barbarian]], [[Druid lore|Druid]], [[Warrior]], [[Hunter]], [[Warlock]], [[Shaman]] [[Necromancer]] (RPG); [[Drudge]], [[Impaler]], [[Firecaller]], [[Ravager]], [[Marauder]], [[Deathcaller]], [[Centaur torturer|Torturer]], [[Khan]], [[Centaur conqueror|Conqueror]], [[War Khan]] (WC3), [[Archer]]
 
| mount = None
 
| homeworld = [[Azeroth]]
 
| region = [[Central Kalimdor]] ([[Barrens]], [[Durotar]], [[Desolace]])
 
| language = [[Low Common]], [[Common (language)|Common]]<ref>''[[Horde Player's Guide]]'', page ??</ref>
 
| slang = [[Goblin (language)|Goblin]], [[Orcish]], [[Taur-ahe]], [[Zandali]]<ref>''[[Horde Player's Guide]]'', page ??</ref>
 
| leader = Numerous khans
 
| exact = 6'8" - 8' (male), 6'5" - 7'9" (female)
 
| alignment = Usually [[lawful evil]]<ref>''[[Horde Player's Guide]]'', page 209</ref> (formerly always [[chaotic evil]]<ref>''[[Manual of Monsters]]'', page 21</ref>
 
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Hello, '''Gabrirt''', and welcome to '''[[Project:About|Wowpedia]]''', the Warcraft wiki! Thank you for your contributions, and we heartily [[Project:Be bold in updating pages|encourage you to continue contributing]]!
'''Centaurs''' are a half-[[humanoid]], half-[[horse]], war-like tribal race. They abound in central and southern [[Kalimdor]], primarily in [[Desolace]] and the [[Barrens]], where they engage in constant war against other centaur and tauren tribes. Though rare, the woods of the [[Blasted Lands]] in the [[Eastern Kingdoms]] were once heavily populated with centaurs.{{Cite|WC3MP|}} They are savagery and brutality incarnate.{{fact}}
 
   
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== Background ==
 
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Centaurs originated from Cenarius and/or from his sons Zaetar and "[[the centaur]]". Five centaur clans in Kalimdor are the bastard offspring of [[Zaetar]] — a [[keeper of the grove]] and the eldest son of the demigod [[Cenarius]] — and an [[earth elemental]], Princess [[Theradras]]. They are therefore related to the keepers of the grove and the [[dryad]]s — through their Cenarion lineage — and the element of [[Earth]]. The centaurs, ever grateful creatures, slew their father in a bloodthirsty rage and their mother buried his remains in [[Maraudon]], which became a holy place for the centaurs. To this day, she stands guard over Zaetar's remains, holding his spirit prisoner.
 
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Other centaurs integrated into Zaetar's clans, and those that make up other clans are said to be born from Cenarius or by his son "the centaur".
 
   
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See Origins below.
 
   
== Conflict with the Horde ==
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== Templates ==
[[Image:Centaur3.jpg|thumb|left|A centaur as seen in ''Warcraft III''.]]
 
   
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If you do not have the time to make a proper change to templates, please do not make a haphazard one. You could always come back to it later when you do, or add a comment of what you'd like to do on the talk page and if someone sees it, they could do it for you. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 21:06, September 14, 2010 (UTC)
[[Hatred of the Centaur]], a [[Tauren mythology|tauren myth]], tells how the early tauren were driven from their ancestral lands (presumably in [[Mulgore]]) and forced to wander [[the Barrens]] of [[Kalimdor]]. The tauren claim that the centaurs have always existed to scourge the land.
 
   
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== Infoboxes ==
When the [[orc]]s first arrived in Kalimdor, they found the nomadic tauren under constant attack from the centaurs. Through the aid of the orcs, the tauren were finally able to reclaim their ancestral lands and live in peace once more. The conflict between the [[Horde]] and the centaurs continues, however, particularly in the Barrens. The members of the Horde hate them so intensely that they have taken to skinning their corpses and making rugs out of them. Such decorations are a common sight in cities such as [[Orgrimmar]] and [[Thunder Bluff]].
 
   
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Just so you know so you don't go wild with the xpak icons... they will be removed, we're only using the {{c-inline}} to mark additions, to show they are to come. When Cataclysm goes live they are to be removed. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 06:06, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
The Horde and the [[Alliance]] are both attempting to control the savage centaurs by encouraging inter-tribal conflicts, so as to prevent the centaur from banding together and becoming a dangerous force.
 
   
== Eastern Kingdom centaur ==
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== Wikify ==
[[Image:Dalarancentaurs.JPG|thumb|Garithos unleashes a squad of mercenary centaur khans on the forces of the blood elves as they escaped Dalaran.]]
 
   
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I'm going to ask you to please stop overly wikifing articles... I'm not exactly sure why you want to {{t|npc}} every name you come across, but please don't do the same names throughout the article 3-10 times. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 03:26, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
Centaur clans dwell in the forests of the [[Eastern Kingdoms]] and the [[Blasted Lands]].{{cite|WC3MP}}
 
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:And I don't know who you are, but I'm telling you to STOP overly wikifying articles, I don't care if you want to {{t|npc}} the names in the articles, but DON'T do it to the same name throughout the article several times over. I will not be going through your edits to fix YOUR overly wikifying ways, I will simply revert them, because you have yet to learn and you will not learn if I fix everything for you. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 00:38, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
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:Gabrirt, let me explain something to you. The person you are arguing with is Coobra, an administrator at wowwiki for a long time now. If he tells you to stop, you stop. Period. End of story.--[[User:Sheffi|Sheffi]] ([[User talk:Sheffi|talk]]) 21:18, October 6, 2010 (UTC)
   
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==Your opinion is desired==
Since the centaurs in the Eastern Kingdoms are rare, a traveling centaur is more likely to draw curiosity than arrows.<ref>''[[Horde Player's Guide]]'', page 25</ref>
 
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Hey, we're pretty much settled on [[Forum:Should WoWWiki leave Wikia?|leaving Wikia]], but I wanted to see if you had any input. Thanks. --{{User:Pcj/sig}} 02:32, October 10, 2010 (UTC)
   
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==Where is...==
Garithos unleashed a [[Garithos' Elite Guard|squad of mercenary centaur khans]] in Lordaeron in the Eastern Kingdoms to try to stop the blood elves from escaping Dalaran in [[The Crossing]].
 
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Your source for definitively completing Fenran's name as Fenran Thaurissan? You forgot to leave your reference.--[[User:Mondoblasto|Mondoblasto]] ([[User talk:Mondoblasto|talk]]) 05:20, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
   
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Refereces? err... Well, for me it is presumed... What argument you have to contradict it?? Moira was Bronzebeard... But now is Thaurissan. Both are affiliated within the [[Dark Iron clan]], so why not? If you really think it's wrong go ahead... I will not [[Edit war|stop]] you. ([[User:Gabrirt|Gabrirt]] ([[User talk:Gabrirt#top|talk]]) 18:44, 26 October 2010 (UTC))
== The Pariah ==
 
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:It's not my argument. Did you check the Discussion page for Fenran? ''"I will not (Edit war) you."'' Well that's certainly good to know. But indeed, that's why we have Discussion and Talk pages, so that doesn't happen in the first place.--[[User:Mondoblasto|Mondoblasto]] ([[User talk:Mondoblasto|talk]]) 05:33, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Despite the hostility each centaur clan has traditionally had for the others, recently a centaur known only as the [[Centaur Pariah]], labeled as a heretic by his people, developed plans to unify the clans. Players can aid him in his design by entering the holy tomb of [[Maraudon]] and forging the [[Amulet of Union]], which he intends to use to bring his warring people together as one. Whether or not the centaurs would actually be able to consolidate into a unified, civilized people remains unknown.
 
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::The exact name is now moot, as the page has been updated by someone who '''saw''' the info the the latest novel. If you're going to be changing pages like that, the argument ''"Well, for me it is presumed"'' is not exactly... accurate information to add to an info wiki. If you want to add something like that, insert a <nowiki>{{Speculation}}</nowiki> tag first and then add your thoughts.--[[User:Mondoblasto|Mondoblasto]] ([[User talk:Mondoblasto|talk]]) 05:56, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
   
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== Alliance & Horde Information Sidebars ==
If redeemed, [[Zaetar's Spirit]] will also speak of hope for a more positive future for his offspring.
 
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The Alliance & Horde Sidebars are not to be messed with, i see you post unnecessary people in seconday leaders list and non capital cities in city list, please stop doing this to Alliance and Horde or i will have to get an admin involved, be smart, think about before posting and stop messing with them. Thank You
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--[[User:ArbiterX122591|ArbiterX122591]] ([[User talk:ArbiterX122591|talk]]) 05:02 December 6th, 2010 (UTC)
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::For me the valid and aceptable page was [[http://www.wowpedia.org/index.php?title=Alliance&oldid=2538712]].
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Can [[User:ArbiterX122591|you]] explain better [[http://www.wowpedia.org/index.php?title=Alliance&diff=next&oldid=2538712|this monstrus "undo"]] of my good works in the page [[Alliance]]?
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Stromgarde and the [[Wildhammer]] base isn't important (note: the alliance is more well based than the [[horde]])? [[Vannddar]] (General Stormpike) isn't the leader of the stormpike guard? The Gilneans aren't Worgen-Human cursed?
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What you will say more?! [[Gilnean]] isn't a languague? Also the Qiraj serves the [[Pantheon]] to you?
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Reversing, and the next time don't just copy and paste and, please, do a more descent rewiew.([[User:Gabrirt|Gabrirt]] ([[User talk:Gabrirt#top|talk]]) 19:15, 6 December 2010 (UTC))
   
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First of all if you even played the beta, you would know the Worgen are actually Gilnean people who have been affected by the Curse and the people you put in the secondary leaders
== Origins ==
 
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are not secondary leaders at all there not even that important, leave the post alone or the admins will end up blocking you from the page, cause we gotta keep cleaning the mess you make
[[Image:Centaurkhan.png|right|Centaur khan]]
 
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--[[User:ArbiterX122591|ArbiterX122591]] ([[User talk:ArbiterX122591|talk]]) 21;48 December 6th, 2010 (UTC)
   
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Ok Gabrirt, this is a warning about your editing warring... YOU best starting talking it out instead of pushing the article to how you see things without discussion. Don't know why the Horde and Alliance articles have to be so heavily disputed... {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 22:10, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
According to [[Flavor Lore|information]] in the ''Warcraft III'' manual, ''[[Dungeons & Dragons Warcraft The Roleplaying Game]]'', ''[[Manual of Monsters]]'', and ''[[Horde Player's Guide]]'', there is another myth for the origin of the centaur race. It has been theorized by night elves that the centaurs may have been the direct bastard offspring of [[Cenarius]]. However a couple of sources mention this may just be a rumor or legend.
 
   
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<blockquote>Legend holds that the primitive, barbaric centaurs are actually the bastard off-spring of the night elf demigod, Cenarius. Whether or not this is true, it is certain that they are savagery and brutality incarnate.<ref>''[[Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos]]'' manual, page 142</ref></blockquote>
 
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Here is your answer : [[Wowpedia:Signature#Custom signatures|Signature - Custom signatures]]
   
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<blockquote>It is also widely rumored that he sired the cursed, barbaric centaur that ravage the duty plains of the Barrens — though this claim has never been substantiated.{{cite|WRPG|154}}</blockquote>
 
   
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{{User:A'noob/sig}} 13:37, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
<blockquote>Cenarius's children are literally the offspring of the demigod Cenarius. Centaur are his bastard children, while dryads are his daughters and keepers of the grove are his sons. Centaur in Azeroth are the bastard children of the demigod Cenarius.{{Cite|MoM|21}}</blockquote>
 
   
 
== Opinion ==
<blockquote>Centaur are the cursed offspring of Cenarius. Centaur somewhat resemble his other children, dryads and keepers of the grove: they have the torsos, heads and arms of humans, and the bodies and legs of horses.{{cite|HPG|25}}</blockquote>
 
   
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I've been trying to get opinions from those that use {{t|NPC}} in articles, and so if you could please visit [[Forum:Abuse of Template:Npc on links]] and give us your opinion on the matter, that would be appreciated. Thank you, {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 21:23, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
<blockquote>Night elves claim that centaur are the bastard children of the demigod Cenarius. Despite their origins, these primitive, barbaric horsemen are the embodiment of savagery.{{cite|HPG|209}}</blockquote>
 
   
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==Buckled under the onslaught==
According to a night elf legend (as told by a tauren storyteller), it was one of his sons known only as "the centaur" who was also the father of centaurs.;
 
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Buckle - to yield, surrender, or give way to another. Or to put it more simply, it means they got their asses kicked. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 01:01, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
   
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== Infoboxes ==
<blockquote>"Long, ago, the kaldorei god Cenarius bore three children, the centaur, the dryad, and the keeper of the grove. However, one son, the centaur, grew to despise his beautiful siblings, then all other creatures of the world, and challenged Cenarius. The centaur believed that he was the strongest of the three children, and that Cenarius refused to love him and instead doted on his other children.</blockquote>
 
   
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It's been noted that you're removing line breaks from the last parameter on infoboxes and the }} such as on [http://www.wowpedia.org/index.php?title=Dunemaul_band&action=historysubmit&diff=2710707&oldid=2696674 this article]. Please don't do that. There's a reason that break is there, it's already been seen that other editors changing things end up breaking templates due to this (as they didn't see what they did or what have you). Thank you, {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 03:35, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
<blockquote>In embracing his hatred and savagery, he struck his father in blind rage, trying to force his father to love him above all other creatures. In retort, the god cursed the centaur, stripping him of his beauty and powers, leaving him only with his hatred and anger. The centaur fled in rage, and swore a blood feud on all the creatures of the world. He reserved most of his hatred for Cenarius' favored children, and thus the night elves drew his ire as well. We [[tauren]] too drew his anger, as he was jealous of our strength and power with the world, the same power he lost.</blockquote>
 
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: ↑ . {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 22:04, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
   
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Uh?? I'm not removing the line that you talk.([[User:Gabrirt|Gabrirt]] ([[User talk:Gabrirt#top|talk]]) 22:16, 20 April 2011 (UTC))
<blockquote>His children carry his anger, and destroy everything they touch, bearing their father's hatred of all things of the world."{{Cite|HPG|209}}</blockquote>
 
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:Well, it doesn't just happen... certainly not happening with any other user.
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:Recent pages you've done it to:
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::*[http://www.wowpedia.org/index.php?title=Horde_Expedition&action=historysubmit&diff=2713123&oldid=2708064 Horde Expedition]
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::*[http://www.wowpedia.org/index.php?title=Warsong_Offensive&action=historysubmit&diff=2713118&oldid=2698959 Warsong Offensive]
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::*[http://www.wowpedia.org/index.php?title=Magatha_Grimtotem&action=historysubmit&diff=2712905&oldid=2688634 Magatha Grimtotem]
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:And I know it's not automatic, cause you didn't do it to [http://www.wowpedia.org/index.php?title=Valiance_Keep&action=historysubmit&diff=2713116&oldid=2709047 Valiance Keep] or [http://www.wowpedia.org/index.php?title=Valgarde&action=historysubmit&diff=2713113&oldid=2617439 Valgarde]on your latest edits. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 20:24, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
   
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== Compirmise ==
   
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Hey we need to make a compirmise for the Leaders, im actually tired always having to come on remove people who dont belong on there ..
The origin of the centaurs mentioned in the ''Warcraft III manual'' was likely originally referring to all centaurs. However, it is known that Zaetar fathered five [[Centaur (Kalimdor)|centaur]] tribes who now live in [[Southern Kalimdor]], as stated in the ''[[Warcraft The Roleplaying Game]]'' core rule book (though it also states Cenarius may have fathered some in the Barrens), ''[[World of Warcraft]]'', and ''[[Lands of Mystery]]''. Although, some of Cenarius' centaurs may have integrated into those clans. Cenarious has in fact, fathered at least one centaur according to legend, and may have fathered other centaurs as well.
 
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Response and hopefully we can work out things like Men and not Children. Thanks !! ([[User:ArbiterX122591|ArbiterX122591]] ([[User talk:ArbiterX122591|talk]])04:00, 21 April 2011 (UTC))
   
 
=== Eh? ===
While the five centaur tribes ([[Kolkar]], [[Magram]], [[Maraudine]], [[Gelkis]], and [[Galak]]) being fathered by Zaetar is explained by a separate legend, there appears to be some truth to this other legend. It is also implied that some of these children may have integrated into Zaetar's clans as well. It also explains the existence of other tribes found in the Eastern Kingdoms, the [[Stonetalon centaurs]], [[Centaur Marauders]], and the [[Krenka]]. For it is said that "the centaur" became the father of many tribes.{{Cite|HPG|209}}
 
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:At first I was waiting you, Arbiter, to put the why you as removing every content that I put at first. I was anger as you as you just apparently undid various of my edits without checking every point. Eventually our persistence led us to several edit wars in various articles that can be worthy of an article only about it.
   
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Anyone who review all historical alterations on [[Horde]], [[Alliance]] and also [[Alliance-Horde War]], and maybe in probably others, can see this and our comments. I believe that the one who REMOVE INFORMATION must start the discussion and say the whys of the removal(s), because the point of a encyclopedia is give information.
== Appearance ==
 
[[Image:Centaur.png|right|A male and a female centaur.]]
 
   
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I think that you already contradict yourself most than once and for unknown reasons changed your opinion about "{{NPC||Tandred}} deserves stay in the list", also ignoring [[Talk:Alliance#The_evil_of_wow-basing|my discuss]].
A centaur appears as a creature with a horse's body and legs and with a humanoid's torso, arms, and head extending from the front part of where a horse neck and head would normally be placed. A full grown male centaur can stand over seven feet tall from hooves to head and weighs over a ton. [[Kalimdor]] centaurs can actually suffer the effects of undeath.
 
   
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And now you are so sad because you may think that I don't discuss, or don't like do it or that I don't like you.
== Culture ==
 
The nomadic centaur culture and the term "khan" have their roots in the cultures of the Turks and Mongols. Centaur villages resemble traditional Turkic and Mongol yurts.
 
   
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A. I like discuss, but "B." and so I prefer use "believe me", unfortunately...
Each tribe of centaurs is lead by a [[khan]], who is generally a leader of above-average strength and intelligence. Some of the clans, if not all, practice cannibalism and will eat the flesh of other sapient races as well, such as the [[tauren]].
 
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B. I'm not fast to write a text, so I avoid stay minutes and minutes (maybe only this post more than one or two dozen) to write this.
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C. In fact I don't like really you because of everything that I'm stating here, but it could easily change if the things turn to a right path.
   
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I almost declared war officially in a moment of anger, but I could avoid be this conflicting or aggressive, thing that I'm not. We aren't really enemies, we were staying as rivals, but if we can understand each other I hope that over. I hope not been exaggerated in what I speak.
Centaurs follow a shamanistic faith, but their brand of shamanism is far different from the more gentle practices of the Horde. Curiously, most centaur shamans are female.
 
   
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So, state what you have and start to discuss if really necessary...
Centaurs are savage and brutal, and they often take prisoners. These prisoners are usually eaten. However, rumors tell of centaurs dragging humanoids of all sorts off to become slaves, forcing them to work in hardscrabble opal mines. [[Opal]]s are used to make crude [[trinket]]s or are thrown into sacrificial offerings to the spirits. Young tauren have made something of a game out of this tradition, snatching away the centaur's offerings and leaving insulting totems in their place. They must be swift, lest they be caught by the centaur, who leave their gutted remains as a warning to others who would consider doing the same.
 
   
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([[User:Gabrirt|Gabrirt]] ([[User talk:Gabrirt#top|talk]]) 23:06, 4 May 2011 (UTC))
Filthy creatures, centaurs are always followed by swarms of flies, which are attracted by the centaur's repellent odor. Centaurs have no qualms about leaving piles of dung strewn about their encampments, and no concept of privacy.
 
   
Each of the five tribes in Desolace had their own unique tribal color: black, brown, green, red, and yellow. Members used the colors to mark their weapons and their faces. These colors are literally the names of centaur tribes fathered by Zaetar, but likely refer to the five main centaur tribes (Kolkar, Magram, Maraudine, Gelkis, and Galak). The Red tribe for example lived in [[Spearhold]].{{cite|WRPG|190,192,194,196}} Additional tribal colors found in modern Desolace include blue and purple.{{Cite|WoW|}}
 
   
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: Thanks i'm still trying to improve it and i REALLY need to work on the prhasing, but thanks for starting the article--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 12:49, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
Centaurs speak [[Low Common]] and [[Common]]. The Krenka clan speaks [[Krenkese]] and Low Common. A few centaurs learn the languages of their enemies.{{Cite|HPG|26, 225}} [[Taur-ahe]] is learned as a secondary language{{Cite|HPG|26}}, though a few centaur primarily speak [[Taur-ahe]]{{Cite|MoM|21}}
 
 
== Centaur remains ==
 
[[Image:Centaur Rug.jpg|thumb|Some interior decorators might consider this a tad morbid...]]
 
[[Image:Centaurskinblackrock.JPG|thumb|It fits the decor of Blackrock.]]
 
 
Centaur skins can be found in many places around Azeroth, even other centaur camps.
 
 
Centaur skins are all over lower [[Blackrock Spire]], perhaps having come from the rare Eastern Kingdom's breed. If it is the case, then the [[Blackrock clan]] may have brought the eastern centaurs to near extinction by the time of ''World of Warcraft''.
 
 
Centaur skins can also be found in some locations in [[Outland]], such as in the ogre leader's hut in [[Ango'rosh Stronghold]].
 
 
==Noteable centaur==
 
*{{RaceIcon|Centaur|Male|Small}} [[Khan Gragtor]]
 
*{{RaceIcon|Centaur|Male|Small}} [[Temuejin]]
 
*{{RaceIcon|Centaur|Male|Small}} [[Kolk]]
 
*{{RaceIcon|Centaur|Male|Small}} [[Krenka]]
 
*{{RaceIcon|Centaur|Male|Small}} [[Maraudos]]
 
*{{RaceIcon|Centaur|Male|Small}} [[Gelk]]
 
*{{RaceIcon|Centaur|Male|Small}} [[Galak]]
 
*{{RaceIcon|Centaur|Male|Small}} [[Magra]]
 
*{{RaceIcon|Centaur|Male|Small}} [[Hezrul Bloodmark]]
 
*{{RaceIcon|Centaur|Male|Small}} [[Khan Bloodhoof]]
 
*{{RaceIcon|Centaur|Male|Small}} [[Verog the Dervish]]
 
*{{RaceIcon|Centaur|Male|Small}} [[Barak Kodobane]]
 
*{{RaceIcon|Centaur|Male|Small}} [[The centaur]]
 
 
== Other centaur clans beyond Zaetar's five ==
 
{{speculation}}
 
=== Eastern Kingdom lineage ===
 
Even though ''Manual of Monsters'' states that the centaurs in the book are the bastard sons of Cenarius,{{cite|MoM|21}} there is debate{{fact}} as to whether Eastern Kingdoms centaurs have a connection to the five tribes in Kalimdor — who are the offspring of Zaetar. Some believe they aren't related, and are in fact the offspring of "the centaur", the other son of Cenarius. Another explanation is that they may have been a group or groups of centaurs that splintered from the original five tribes and made it across ancient Kalimdor before the [[Sundering]], arriving in the present day Eastern Kingdoms.
 
 
=== "The centaur" ===
 
It may also be that the two legends are one in the same in which the son called "the centaur" may in fact be Zaetor. This would make since since "the centaur" and Zaetor share many things, such as there fall from grace due to jealousy. It would also explain why "the centaur"'s children were the same as Zaetor's, even though his were warped from what a keep of the grove should spawn because of the [[Earth Elemental]]s.
 
 
However, this would ignore most of the traits and history attributed to "the centaur". Zaetar appears to neither be a bastard nor have "the centaur"'s personality traits. H does not have the same hatred to his siblings as "the centaur". Zaetar was not cursed by his father either (stripped of his beauty to appear as current centaurs) nor did Zaetar swear a blood feud on all creatures of the world.
 
 
== Myth ==
 
The [[wikipedia:centaur|centaurs]] (Greek: Κενταυροι) are fairly popular beings in Greek mythology, but myths pertaining to them directly are not plentiful. The handfuls of tales that survive relate the nature of a boisterous race of horse-men who care only for drinking and numerous other vices. They were the children of Nephele (a nymph formed out of clouds in the shape of Hera by Zeus). The lustful and devious Lapith king Ixion raped Nephele (thinking it was Hera), thus impregnating her. She promptly gave birth to a clan of horse-men (the Centaurs). Though there are sparse references to female Centaurs from antiquity, they only appear in later art and literature of other cultures. Despite the barbaric nature of centaurs in general, certain centaurs were renowned for their wisdom. Kheiron (Chiron), for example, was the teacher of some of the greatest of Greek heroes, including Achilles, Herakles, Jason, and Theseus.
 
 
Blizzard took a distinctly central Asian influence for their centaurs, borrowing cultural elements from peoples such as the [[wikipedia:Mongols|Mongols]]. Most notably, they are led by [[wikipedia:Khan|khans]] and live in [[wikipedia:Yurt|collapsible huts]].
 
 
== See also ==
 
* [[Centaur clans]]
 
* [[Origin of the races]]
 
 
== Sources ==
 
* ''[[Manual of Monsters]]''
 
* ''[[Horde Player's Guide]]''
 
* ''[[Lands of Mystery]]''
 
* ''Warcraft III'' manual
 
* ''[[Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne]]''
 
 
== References ==
 
{{reflist}}
 
 
{{Races}}
 
{{WoW RPG classes}}
 
[[Category:Centaurs| ]]
 
[[Category:Creature classes]]
 
[[Category:Hybrid races]]
 

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Infoboxes

Just so you know so you don't go wild with the xpak icons... they will be removed, we're only using the Icon Cataclysm 18x18 to mark additions, to show they are to come. When Cataclysm goes live they are to be removed. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 06:06, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Wikify

I'm going to ask you to please stop overly wikifing articles... I'm not exactly sure why you want to {{npc}} every name you come across, but please don't do the same names throughout the article 3-10 times. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 03:26, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

And I don't know who you are, but I'm telling you to STOP overly wikifying articles, I don't care if you want to {{npc}} the names in the articles, but DON'T do it to the same name throughout the article several times over. I will not be going through your edits to fix YOUR overly wikifying ways, I will simply revert them, because you have yet to learn and you will not learn if I fix everything for you. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 00:38, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
Gabrirt, let me explain something to you. The person you are arguing with is Coobra, an administrator at wowwiki for a long time now. If he tells you to stop, you stop. Period. End of story.--Sheffi (talk) 21:18, October 6, 2010 (UTC)

Your opinion is desired

Hey, we're pretty much settled on leaving Wikia, but I wanted to see if you had any input. Thanks. --PcjWowpedia wiki manager (TDrop me a line!C207,729 contributions and counting) 02:32, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

Where is...

Your source for definitively completing Fenran's name as Fenran Thaurissan? You forgot to leave your reference.--Mondoblasto (talk) 05:20, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Refereces? err... Well, for me it is presumed... What argument you have to contradict it?? Moira was Bronzebeard... But now is Thaurissan. Both are affiliated within the Dark Iron clan, so why not? If you really think it's wrong go ahead... I will not stop you. (Gabrirt (talk) 18:44, 26 October 2010 (UTC))

It's not my argument. Did you check the Discussion page for Fenran? "I will not (Edit war) you." Well that's certainly good to know. But indeed, that's why we have Discussion and Talk pages, so that doesn't happen in the first place.--Mondoblasto (talk) 05:33, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
The exact name is now moot, as the page has been updated by someone who saw the info the the latest novel. If you're going to be changing pages like that, the argument "Well, for me it is presumed" is not exactly... accurate information to add to an info wiki. If you want to add something like that, insert a {{Speculation}} tag first and then add your thoughts.--Mondoblasto (talk) 05:56, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Alliance & Horde Information Sidebars

The Alliance & Horde Sidebars are not to be messed with, i see you post unnecessary people in seconday leaders list and non capital cities in city list, please stop doing this to Alliance and Horde or i will have to get an admin involved, be smart, think about before posting and stop messing with them. Thank You --ArbiterX122591 (talk) 05:02 December 6th, 2010 (UTC)

For me the valid and aceptable page was [[1]].

Can you explain better [monstrus "undo"] of my good works in the page Alliance? Stromgarde and the Wildhammer base isn't important (note: the alliance is more well based than the horde)? Vannddar (General Stormpike) isn't the leader of the stormpike guard? The Gilneans aren't Worgen-Human cursed? What you will say more?! Gilnean isn't a languague? Also the Qiraj serves the Pantheon to you? Reversing, and the next time don't just copy and paste and, please, do a more descent rewiew.(Gabrirt (talk) 19:15, 6 December 2010 (UTC))

First of all if you even played the beta, you would know the Worgen are actually Gilnean people who have been affected by the Curse and the people you put in the secondary leaders are not secondary leaders at all there not even that important, leave the post alone or the admins will end up blocking you from the page, cause we gotta keep cleaning the mess you make --ArbiterX122591 (talk) 21;48 December 6th, 2010 (UTC)

Ok Gabrirt, this is a warning about your editing warring... YOU best starting talking it out instead of pushing the article to how you see things without discussion. Don't know why the Horde and Alliance articles have to be so heavily disputed... SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 22:10, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Custom signature

Here is your answer : Signature - Custom signatures

Ask if you need any help

IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 13:37, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Opinion

I've been trying to get opinions from those that use {{NPC}} in articles, and so if you could please visit Forum:Abuse of Template:Npc on links and give us your opinion on the matter, that would be appreciated. Thank you, SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 21:23, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Buckled under the onslaught

Buckle - to yield, surrender, or give way to another. Or to put it more simply, it means they got their asses kicked. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 01:01, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Infoboxes

It's been noted that you're removing line breaks from the last parameter on infoboxes and the }} such as on this article. Please don't do that. There's a reason that break is there, it's already been seen that other editors changing things end up breaking templates due to this (as they didn't see what they did or what have you). Thank you, SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 03:35, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

↑ . SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 22:04, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Uh?? I'm not removing the line that you talk.(Gabrirt (talk) 22:16, 20 April 2011 (UTC))

Well, it doesn't just happen... certainly not happening with any other user.
Recent pages you've done it to:
And I know it's not automatic, cause you didn't do it to Valiance Keep or Valgardeon your latest edits. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 20:24, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Compirmise

Hey we need to make a compirmise for the Leaders, im actually tired always having to come on remove people who dont belong on there .. Response and hopefully we can work out things like Men and not Children. Thanks !! (ArbiterX122591 (talk)04:00, 21 April 2011 (UTC))

Eh?

At first I was waiting you, Arbiter, to put the why you as removing every content that I put at first. I was anger as you as you just apparently undid various of my edits without checking every point. Eventually our persistence led us to several edit wars in various articles that can be worthy of an article only about it.

Anyone who review all historical alterations on Horde, Alliance and also Alliance-Horde War, and maybe in probably others, can see this and our comments. I believe that the one who REMOVE INFORMATION must start the discussion and say the whys of the removal(s), because the point of a encyclopedia is give information.

I think that you already contradict yourself most than once and for unknown reasons changed your opinion about "Tandred deserves stay in the list", also ignoring my discuss.

And now you are so sad because you may think that I don't discuss, or don't like do it or that I don't like you.

A. I like discuss, but "B." and so I prefer use "believe me", unfortunately... B. I'm not fast to write a text, so I avoid stay minutes and minutes (maybe only this post more than one or two dozen) to write this. C. In fact I don't like really you because of everything that I'm stating here, but it could easily change if the things turn to a right path.

I almost declared war officially in a moment of anger, but I could avoid be this conflicting or aggressive, thing that I'm not. We aren't really enemies, we were staying as rivals, but if we can understand each other I hope that over. I hope not been exaggerated in what I speak.

So, state what you have and start to discuss if really necessary...

(Gabrirt (talk) 23:06, 4 May 2011 (UTC))


Old god forces

Thanks i'm still trying to improve it and i REALLY need to work on the prhasing, but thanks for starting the article--Ashbear160 (talk) 12:49, 5 May 2011 (UTC)