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|image=Highlord Darion Mograine.jpg
 
|name=Highlord Darion Mograine
 
|titles=Highlord of the Ebon Blade
 
|level=??
 
|type=Boss
 
|location=[[Acherus: The Ebon Hold]], [[Scarlet Enclave]] / [[Eastern Plaguelands]] or [[Light's Hammer]], [[Icecrown Citadel]]
 
|status=Active
 
|faction=Neutral
 
|affiliation=[[Knights of the Ebon Blade]], [[Ashen Verdict]] (currently)<br>[[Knights of the Silver Hand]], [[Scarlet Crusade]], [[Argent Dawn]], [[Scourge]] (formerly)
 
|race=Human
 
|health=11,156,000
 
|mana = 3,406,400
 
|creature=Undead
 
|gender=Male
 
|occupation=Highlord of the Ebon Blade, Master of Acherus
 
|character=[[Death knight]]
 
|faction=Neutral
 
|relatives=[[Alexandros Mograine|Alexandros]] (father), [[Elena Mograine|Elena]] (mother), [[Renault Mograine|Renault]] (brother)
 
}}
 
{{for|his presence in [[Icecrown]]|The Ebon Watcher}}
 
   
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I checked around and didn't find anything about the last news about the RPG, and how to proceed. As you know, CDev questions 2 said the RPG was not canon. Before WP becomes a complete mess with people removing, people tagging or people making new sections, I think we need a policy.
'''Darion Mograine''' is the Highlord of the [[Knights of the Ebon Blade]], a renegade order of [[death knight]]s sent by the [[Lich King]] to the region east of [[Tyr's Hand]]. He is the son of [[Alexandros Mograine]] and a former knight of the [[Argent Dawn]]. He came into possession of [[Corrupted Ashbringer]] after killing his father in Naxxramas as part of a failed rescue plan carried out by some members of the Argent Dawn and used it to kill himself and free his father's soul.<ref>{{questlong|Neutral|55|Taking Back Acherus}}</ref> He became a death knight of the [[Scourge]].
 
   
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This is my take on it:
He has a pronounced role in the [[death knight]] starting area.
 
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*Small lines integrated into something bigger: references should be enough.
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*Small lines not integrated into something bigger: moved to trivia: "In the RPG blablabla, although it may not be canon".
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*Medium texts that can act as standalone: Moved to a "In the RPG" section with a RPG-section tag.
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*Articles that are 90% RPG: bring back the RPG tag in the first line of the article, so people know it's from the RPG without needing to check sources one by one.
   
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Well, that's my suggestion. Waiting for general consensus before everyone starts to do what they want. Would be nice if this was linked as a sitenotice, so everyone is aware.--[[User:Lon-ami|Lon-ami]] ([[User talk:Lon-ami|talk]]) 11:08, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
It is unknown if he is the same son previously believed to be in [[Outland]] (per [[Corrupted Ashbringer/Scarlet Monastery Event|the Scarlet Monastery event with Corrupted Ashbringer]]). It is likely, however, as he did release his father's soul from the Corrupted Ashbringer.
 
   
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:I already modified [[:Template:RPG-section]] to clarify. --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 11:16, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
==Biography==
 
{{comic-section}}
 
[[File:Darionchild.JPG|thumb|left|Darion as a child]]
 
[[File:Darionteenager.JPG|thumb|Darion as a teenager]]
 
[[File:Darion Argent Dawn.jpg|thumb|Darion as a new recruit in the [[Argent Dawn]]]]
 
[[File:Darion Undead.jpg|thumb|Darion joining the [[Scourge]]]]
 
   
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::I don't think that's enough to handle the problem. I'd call for community discussion.--[[User:Lon-ami|Lon-ami]] ([[User talk:Lon-ami|talk]]) 12:04, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
On the day of Darion's birth, he was stillborn. Alexandros, in a hurry, rushed the baby to a nearby stream, and from the freezing water, Darion Mograine entered the world. However, the joy his father felt quickly turned to grief as his wife and mother of his children, [[Elena Mograine|Elena]], died due to complications from the birth.
 
   
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:::I'm well aware of that, but it's a start. --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 12:07, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
In a battle within the plagued city of [[Stratholme]], in which young Darion insisted on fighting, he took a serious wound and fell unconscious for a day. Upon awakening, the boy described his experience as being surrounded by darkness, before being shown a light that he followed back to life. <ref>[[Death is Contagious]]</ref>
 
   
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::::I think we need a smaller icon for certain situations(example denizens of deepholm that are only on the RPG)something like the icons on expansions.--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 12:15, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
Following the death of his father, Darion began to question the [[Light]] before being confronted by the [[troll]] priest, [[Zabra Hexx]]. After being counseled by the troll to search out his father in a [[Naxxramas|fortress floating above a burning city]], Darion joined the newly formed [[Argent Dawn|Order of the Argent Dawn]].
 
   
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:::::Should Appendix 3 be back to the mainspace? I thought we banished it, and that wouldn't change no matter the new stance.
With a handful of Argent Dawn volunteers and a mysterious mage known as [[Castillian]], Darion infiltrated the fortress of Naxxramas. After besting the lords of the Necropolis and losing his entire party to the [[Four Horsemen]], the [[Corrupted Ashbringer]] came into Darion's possession. The sword's voice led him to the [[Scarlet Monastery]] where, unaware of the actual treachery of his brother, [[Renault Mograine]], Darion was attacked by Renault who considered him to be the last link from his past, coming to torture him. The spirit of Alexandros Mograine appeared from the Ashbringer, beheading his traitor son and forgiving him afterward.
 
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:::::As for that small information, I'd just leave it in a "trivia" section. Not worth tdo what you ask, considering it's not canon anymore.--[[User:Lon-ami|Lon-ami]] ([[User talk:Lon-ami|talk]]) 12:18, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
   
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::::::No, Appendix 3 should be forever banished from the mainspace.
Realizing that his father's soul was trapped within the Ashbringer, Darion stole a steed from the [[Scarlet Crusade]] and ran away. [[Fairbanks]] then visited him in a dream, telling him to go and find [[Tirion Fordring]]. Darion followed the ghost's orders and eventually found Tirion, telling him what happened to his father, though only after arguing with the pariah. Afterward, Tirion told him of how he was banished. He told Darion that nothing could be done for Alexandros. When mounting his stead, Tirion told him that only an act of love greater than the act of evil could free his father's soul. Darion then invited him to join the Argent Dawn and despite Tirion's outright refusal, left the option open by asking him to "Be a Hero".
 
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::::::As for the Deepholm denizens (and other areas) that are only in the RPG, they should be abolished overall from the lists. The last thing we need is '''even ''more''''' icons. --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 12:22, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
   
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:::::::Well, most of those don't have icons anyway. I'd move them to trivia in list form, something like: "In the RPG, these creatures were denizens of this realm: a, b, c and d, but it's not canon".
After his meeting with Tirion, Darion ventured to [[Light's Hope Chapel]] where he came across a [[Scourge]] army waiting to attack. [[Maxwell Tyrosus]], overjoyed at his return, told him about the one thousand souls of the champions that died defending [[Capital City]] from [[Arthas]] and the Scourge and were later carried beneath the chapel. Darion took his place in the lines of The Order of the Argent Dawn in defense of the fallen. During the night he experienced a terrible vision about a world without the Light, a world where the Scourge were triumphant. In the morning, a call to arms was made to the soldiers as the First Battle for Lights Hope began. As the tide began to turn against the Argent Dawn, Tirion arrived riding [[Mirador]] and managed to save a woman from an [[abomination]] as he joined the fray. As it seemed as though the Light-blessed soldiers of the Argent Dawn might prevail, [[Kel'Thuzad]] himself joined the battle. Understanding that the [[Lich King]]'s right hand had appeared, Darion charged forward, wielding the Corrupted Ashbringer as his father had long ago, and fought his way to Kel'Thuzad himself. The [[lich]] showed no fear and said that even the Ashbringer was not powerful enough to stop him. At that very same moment Darion realized what Tirion's words meant. Darion, as an act of love not only for his father but also for the cause they believed in, plunged Ashbringer through his heart with the words "I love you, Dad." In response to his noble action, the souls of a thousand vengeful knights erupted in pillars of light that purged the hills around the chapel of all traces of the Scourge. All that remained were the figures of Kel'Thuzad and the undead figure of Darion Mograine, the Corrupted Ashbringer still pierced through his chest.
 
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:::::::As for Appendix 3, I asked because I saw someone moving the information: [[Ettin]].--[[User:Lon-ami|Lon-ami]] ([[User talk:Lon-ami|talk]]) 12:32, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
   
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::::::::i don't know if you misunderstood me or not, but what i meant was adding a icon like the one in the [[Template:RPG-section]] but without the text to the list from those that were from the RPG--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 13:38, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
As Kel'Thuzad stood triumphant, he commented on how he was willing to sacrifice his own forces if it meant claiming the last Mograine's soul. In an eerily similar fashion, he asked Darion, "Who do you love?" Now lifeless in the service of the same force he swore to eliminate, the newly risen death knight answered back, "no one."
 
   
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:::::::::I suggest creating a huge category of RPG, containing all things RPG and create RPG characters category inside to include RPG characters and move them over from the Lore Characters category. And also, sorry about the ettin article, didn't know the source was banished, I thought it's just another RPG book... [[Image:IconSmall_HighElf_Male.gif]] '''[[User:Sl2059|Aesindor, The Celestial Paladin]]''' ([[User talk:Sl2059|Leave a Message]]) 15:04, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
==World of Warcraft==
 
[[File:Corrupted Ashbringer.jpg|thumb|Highlord [[Darion Mograine]] with the [[Corrupted Ashbringer]] on his back in [[Acherus: The Ebon Hold]].]]
 
[[File:Darion Mograine at Light's Hammer.jpg|thumb|Highlord Darion Mograine at [[Light's Hammer]].]]
 
{{wotlk-section}}
 
Some time later Darion was made Highlord of the Ebon Blade, an order of Death Knights with the sole purpose of annihilating the remaining living in the [[Eastern Plaguelands]]. He also planned and formulated not only the forces in the [[Eastern Kingdoms]], but also the strategy of the forces of [[Northrend]] and the would-be assault on [[Kalimdor]]. He gave command to all newly created Death Knights under his authority, orders to aid in the taking of the Eastern Plaguelands in the name of the Lich King from the fortress that is Ebon Hold.
 
   
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:I'm going to try the separate the rpg information from he official information in the elemental hierarchy article.--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 13:38, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
After the crushing of the Scarlet Crusade, the Knights of the Ebon Blade began preparation for their final assault on Light's Hope Chapel. Highlord Mograine assembled his most worthy and strongest Death Knights to begin the Second Battle for Lights Hope. There he learned that the Ashbringer would refuse to strike down any foe, and refused to obey his commands. One of his three generals then fled, as he was forced to face the tremendous power of Lights Hope Chapel's consecrated ground. As Tirion arrived, Highlord Mograine admitted defeat to the superior forces of the combined [[Silver Hand]] and Argent Dawn. At that moment, his master, the former Prince of Lorderon, the Lich King, Arthas appeared. After a confession of guilt from the Lich King, who had admitted he sent the Ebon Blade to its doom just to bring Tirion Fordring out of hiding, Highlord Mograine attempted to attack his master, only to be sent flying. As the Lich King was about to end the Death Knight's life, Darion threw the [[Corrupted Ashbringer]] to Tirion who in turn was able to purify it and push the Lich King back with the combined forces of the redeemed blade and the sacred ground.
 
   
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:: I think i've managed.--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 14:48, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
In response to the Lich King's betrayal, Darion now leads the Ebon Blade in a campaign to wipe out the forces loyal to the Lich King from Ebon Hold and establish it as a neutral haven for all Death Knights to call home.
 
   
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:::Don't worry, Aesindor. We decided Appendix 3 was D&D long ago :P.
===Northrend===
 
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:::As for doing changes, try not to do big ones until we decide a policy, or you may get removed (not talking about elemental hierarchy, Ashendant, I think that one looks right).--[[User:Lon-ami|Lon-ami]] ([[User talk:Lon-ami|talk]]) 15:36, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
He can be found initially at the [[Argent Vanguard]] in [[Icecrown]] discussing tactics with [[Tirion Fordring]]; after completing {{questlong|Neutral|80|The Last Line Of Defense}}, he moves to an area in the [[Valley of Echoes]] near the [[Light's Breach]]. During these events he is known as [[The Ebon Watcher]].
 
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::::It took a lot of interpretation but i think i got it right--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 16:13, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
   
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:What about all the pictures from the RPG? Like [[Elune]] or [[Queen Azshara]]? --[[User:LemonBaby|LemonBaby]] ([[User talk:LemonBaby|talk]]) 16:45, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
Darion appears as himself during {{questlong|Neutral|78|The Air Stands Still}}, summoned by the player to fight [[Underking Talonox]] in [[Scourgeholme]], and again in the [[Cathedral of Darkness]] in {{questlong|Neutral|80|Tirion's Gambit}}, accompanied by [[Thassarian]], [[Koltira Deathweaver]] and a group of Ebon Knights.
 
   
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::I don't think pictures are any problem... at least until we get better ones--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 17:30, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
During the {{questlong|Neutral|80G5|The Fate of Bloodbane}} Darion leads a group of Knights of the Ebon Blade in fighting [[Orbaz Bloodbane]] and his [[Host of Suffering]].
 
   
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I find the Zandalari related pages(especially Rastakhan) and mainly minor races pages(ogre,ogre mage,sea giant and such) abit of trouble... overall I "de-RPed" 270 articles.[[Image:IconSmall_HighElf_Male.gif]] '''[[User:Sl2059|Aesindor, The Celestial Paladin]]''' ([[User talk:Sl2059|Leave a Message]]) 21:27, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
[[Tirion Fordring]] and Darion Mograine next appear together in [[Icecrown Citadel]] at [[Light's Hammer]] where they lead the [[Ashen Verdict]], a union of the [[Argent Crusade]] and the [[Knights of the Ebon Blade]].
 
   
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:Thanks, now there are just a bajillion to go :D --[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 21:48, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
He is also involved in the creation of {{loot|legendary|Shadowmourne}}.
 
   
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I noticed that Warthok is purging "his" dragonflight pages of RPG info. Is this an issue? I respect him, but I feel that I should tell him not to. Would it would be biased to let him slide and others not? Are his actions fine in the first place?--{{User:Sandwichman2448/Sig}} 02:56, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
===Quests===
 
He is involved in the following quests in and around the [[Ebon Hold]]:
 
#{{questfinish}} {{questlong|Neutral|55|The Might Of The Scourge}}
 
#{{queststart}} {{questlong|Neutral|55|Report to Scourge Commander Thalanor}}
 
#{{questfinish}} {{questlong|Neutral|55|Victory At Death's Breach!}}
 
#{{queststart}} {{questlong|Neutral|55|The Will Of The Lich King}}
 
#{{questfinish}} {{questlong|Neutral|55|Scarlet Armies Approach...}}
 
#{{queststart}} {{questlong|Neutral|55|The Scarlet Apocalypse}}
 
#{{questfinish}} {{questlong|Neutral|55|The Lich King's Command}}
 
#{{queststartfinish}}{{questlong|Neutral|55|The Light of Dawn}}
 
#{{queststartfinish}}{{questlong|Neutral|55|Taking Back Acherus}}
 
#{{queststartfinish}}{{questlong|Neutral|55|The Battle For The Ebon Hold}}
 
#{{queststart}} {{questlong|Alliance|55|Where Kings Walk|Where Kings Walk}} / {{questlong|Horde|55|Warchief's Blessing}}
 
   
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:Aye, just mention it to him that RPG shouldn't be removed... it's still part of the Warcraft after all. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 03:09, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
He's also giving most of the {{loot|legendary|Shadowmourne}} quests:
 
#{{queststart}} {{questlong|Neutral|80R|The Sacred and the Corrupt}}
 
#{{queststartfinish}} {{questlong|Neutral|80R|Shadow's Edge}}
 
#{{queststartfinish}} {{questlong|Neutral|80R|A Feast of Souls}}
 
#{{queststartfinish}} {{questlong|Neutral|80R|Unholy Infusion}}
 
#{{queststartfinish}} {{questlong|Neutral|80R|Blood Infusion}}
 
#{{queststartfinish}} {{questlong|Neutral|80R|Frost Infusion}}
 
#{{queststartfinish}} {{questlong|Neutral|80R|The Splintered Throne}}
 
#{{queststartfinish}} {{questlong|Neutral|80R|Shadowmourne...}}
 
#{{queststartfinish}} {{questlong|Neutral|80R|The Lich King's Last Stand}}
 
:#{{questfinish}} {{questlong|neutral|80R|Personal Property}}
 
   
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==Categories==
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We should probably look at stripping some of the categories from articles that are 100% RPG material. It doesn't make sense, for instance, for a non-canon character to be in the Lore Characters category. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 02:13, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
===Member of the [[Scourge]]===
 
Greetings:
 
*"We exist only to serve him."
 
*"Ours is not to question, only to act."
 
*"His eyes are upon you, at all times!"
 
*"The life we had before is meaningless."
 
*"Obey, or be eliminated."
 
 
Farewell:
 
*"It will be done."
 
*"By his command."
 
*"The might of the Scourge will not be challenged!"
 
*"Go forth and wreak havoc!"
 
*"We will scour the living from this world."
 
 
===Member of the [[Knights of the Ebon Blade]]===
 
Greetings:
 
*"We are driven by a single purpose: retribution."
 
*"For us there is no peace, no rest."
 
*"All is not lost, not yet."
 
*"Harness your hate; make it useful."
 
*"We know much about sacrifice."
 
 
Irritated:
 
*"Dismissed."
 
*"One more nuisance I must deal with."
 
*"We Mograines aren't known for our restraint."
 
*"Patience is a virtue; one I no longer possess."
 
*"You are expendable."
 
 
Farewell:
 
*"The Knights of the Ebon Blade will not falter."
 
*"We will see it through, to the bitter end."
 
*"We must forge our own destiny."
 
*"A shadow of hope remains."
 
*"We are eternal. We are unyielding."
 
 
===At [[Battle for Light's Hope Chapel]]===
 
[[File:Lord Darion Mograine.jpg|thumb|"''Although our kind have no place in your world, we will fight to bring an end to the Lich King. This I vow.''"{{Cite|TCGSW|211}}]]
 
{{Main|Quest:The Light of Dawn#Quest dialogue}}
 
 
===On describing the Ashen Verdict===
 
:Ready yourself, <name>.
 
:The time has come for the Lich King's reign to come to an end.
 
[[File:GossipGossipIcon.png]] ''What is the [[Ashen Verdict]]?''
 
 
:The Ashen Verdict is a select group of the most talented craftsmen in the [[Ebon Blade]] and [[Argent Crusade]]. Its creation symbolizes the unity of our forces as we mount this final assault on the Lich King and his minions.
 
:It is through the Ashen Verdict's efforts that we have discovered how to bend saronite to our will.
 
[[File:GossipGossipIcon.png]] ''How can I learn to work Saronite?''
 
 
:Speak with {{NPC||Alchemist Finklestein (Icecrown)||Finklestein}}, <class>. He can set you on the path.
 
:Demonstrate your loyalty and their methods shall be made known to you.
 
 
==Trivia==
 
*His [[deathcharger]] is called [[Iydallus]] and is found at the [[Argent Vanguard]] of [[Icecrown]] along with [[Mirador]], [[Tirion]]'s steed.
 
**In Icecrown Citadel, the steed beside him is named [[Fury (Deathcharger)|Fury]] which was the steed of [[Salanar the Horseman]].
 
*He is wearing the [[Tier 8]] [[Death knight sets|Death Knight set]]. However, in [[Icecrown Citadel (instance)|Icecrown Citadel]], he is shown wearing the new [[Death Knight]] [[Tier 10]].
 
*While [[The Ebon Watcher]] appears to have orange hair like his father and brother, Darion has blonde hair in the comic.
 
*After Darion gave up the {{item|Corrupted Ashbringer}} to Tirion Fordring, he dual wielded two swords with the same model as {{item|The Hungering Cold}} and {{item|Slayer of the Lifeless}}. He has upgraded to a new weapon, with the same model as {{item|Glorenzelg, High-Blade of the Silver Hand (heroic)}}, upon entering the [[Icecrown Citadel (instance)|Citadel]].
 
*He has more health than all of the racial leaders. While they have a bit more than 5,000,000 HP, he has 11,000,000 HP.
 
 
==References==
 
{{Reflist}}
 
 
==External links==
 
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Revision as of 03:09, 27 June 2011

Forums: Village pump → The RPG dilemma

I checked around and didn't find anything about the last news about the RPG, and how to proceed. As you know, CDev questions 2 said the RPG was not canon. Before WP becomes a complete mess with people removing, people tagging or people making new sections, I think we need a policy.

This is my take on it:

  • Small lines integrated into something bigger: references should be enough.
  • Small lines not integrated into something bigger: moved to trivia: "In the RPG blablabla, although it may not be canon".
  • Medium texts that can act as standalone: Moved to a "In the RPG" section with a RPG-section tag.
  • Articles that are 90% RPG: bring back the RPG tag in the first line of the article, so people know it's from the RPG without needing to check sources one by one.

Well, that's my suggestion. Waiting for general consensus before everyone starts to do what they want. Would be nice if this was linked as a sitenotice, so everyone is aware.--Lon-ami (talk) 11:08, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

I already modified Template:RPG-section to clarify. --g0urra[T҂C] 11:16, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
I don't think that's enough to handle the problem. I'd call for community discussion.--Lon-ami (talk) 12:04, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
I'm well aware of that, but it's a start. --g0urra[T҂C] 12:07, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
I think we need a smaller icon for certain situations(example denizens of deepholm that are only on the RPG)something like the icons on expansions.--Ashbear160 (talk) 12:15, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
Should Appendix 3 be back to the mainspace? I thought we banished it, and that wouldn't change no matter the new stance.
As for that small information, I'd just leave it in a "trivia" section. Not worth tdo what you ask, considering it's not canon anymore.--Lon-ami (talk) 12:18, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
No, Appendix 3 should be forever banished from the mainspace.
As for the Deepholm denizens (and other areas) that are only in the RPG, they should be abolished overall from the lists. The last thing we need is even more icons. --g0urra[T҂C] 12:22, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
Well, most of those don't have icons anyway. I'd move them to trivia in list form, something like: "In the RPG, these creatures were denizens of this realm: a, b, c and d, but it's not canon".
As for Appendix 3, I asked because I saw someone moving the information: Ettin.--Lon-ami (talk) 12:32, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
i don't know if you misunderstood me or not, but what i meant was adding a icon like the one in the Template:RPG-section but without the text to the list from those that were from the RPG--Ashbear160 (talk) 13:38, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
I suggest creating a huge category of RPG, containing all things RPG and create RPG characters category inside to include RPG characters and move them over from the Lore Characters category. And also, sorry about the ettin article, didn't know the source was banished, I thought it's just another RPG book... IconSmall HighElf Male Aesindor, The Celestial Paladin (Leave a Message) 15:04, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
I'm going to try the separate the rpg information from he official information in the elemental hierarchy article.--Ashbear160 (talk) 13:38, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
I think i've managed.--Ashbear160 (talk) 14:48, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
Don't worry, Aesindor. We decided Appendix 3 was D&D long ago :P.
As for doing changes, try not to do big ones until we decide a policy, or you may get removed (not talking about elemental hierarchy, Ashendant, I think that one looks right).--Lon-ami (talk) 15:36, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
It took a lot of interpretation but i think i got it right--Ashbear160 (talk) 16:13, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
What about all the pictures from the RPG? Like Elune or Queen Azshara? --LemonBaby (talk) 16:45, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
I don't think pictures are any problem... at least until we get better ones--Ashbear160 (talk) 17:30, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

I find the Zandalari related pages(especially Rastakhan) and mainly minor races pages(ogre,ogre mage,sea giant and such) abit of trouble... overall I "de-RPed" 270 articles.IconSmall HighElf Male Aesindor, The Celestial Paladin (Leave a Message) 21:27, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, now there are just a bajillion to go :D --Ashbear160 (talk) 21:48, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

I noticed that Warthok is purging "his" dragonflight pages of RPG info. Is this an issue? I respect him, but I feel that I should tell him not to. Would it would be biased to let him slide and others not? Are his actions fine in the first place?--SWM2448 02:56, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Aye, just mention it to him that RPG shouldn't be removed... it's still part of the Warcraft after all. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 03:09, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Categories

We should probably look at stripping some of the categories from articles that are 100% RPG material. It doesn't make sense, for instance, for a non-canon character to be in the Lore Characters category. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 02:13, 27 June 2011 (UTC)