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I'd like to propose moving this article to [[Seven Kingdoms]], which is the term used in the [[History of Warcraft]] section on the subject. Better to use official terminology when available.--[[User:Aeleas|Aeleas]] 12:35, 16 December 2006 (EST)
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| image = FacelessOneComic.jpg
 
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| name = Faceless ones
 
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| faction = [[Old Gods]], [[Faceless Ones]]
 
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| mount = Unknown
 
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| homeworld = [[Azeroth (world)|Azeroth]]
 
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| language = [[Faceless (language)]]
 
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| leader = [[Yogg-Saron]]
 
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==Relations?==
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'''Faceless ones''' (aka '''The faceless''') are mysterious monsters that reside in [[Azjol-Nerub]] and [[Icecrown]] in [[Northrend]].
 
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Has any lore been released on the relations between the kingdoms during the (rather long) stretch of time between [[The Troll Wars]] and the Horde invasion? I always thought of it like the European relations between Napoleon and WW1. thus as sporadic wars, but nothing serious just a few battles determining where the Lordaeron-Gilneas border in Silverpine is placed.. Anyway it's highly unlikely that we would have peace for thousands of years.. -[[User:Rovdyr|Rovdyr]] 00:40, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
   
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:The broze dragons say they were on the brink of 'civil' war before the First War happened.--{{User:Sandwichman2448/Sig}} 00:53, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
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==Appereance==
 
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[[File:General Vezax.jpg|thumb|[[General Vezax]]]]
 
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Faceless ones are vaguely humanoid creatures who, as the name implies, have no discernible faces insofar as other races recognize them. One arm is much larger than the other, grotesque and misshapen, while the other is little more than a prehensile tentacle.
 
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===Generals===
 
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[[Faceless general]]s are massive faceless with a hardened shell. They seem to be the leaders of the Faceless ones.
 
   
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::Yeah, and we can be quite sure that every nation had a standing army, so war was definetaly not unknown of.. but is it known how common a war would be, and how big such a war would be? -[[User:Rovdyr|Rovdyr]] 12:04, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
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==History==
 
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[[File:Facelessone.jpg|thumb|A faceless one from ''[[Warcraft III]]''.]]
 
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Tales say they lived in Azjol-Nerub long before the [[Scourge]] came, dwelling too deep for the [[nerubian]]s to hunt them. The strange faceless ones are ancient monsters long imprisoned beneath the ice and recently loosed again.<ref>''[[Lands of Mystery]]'', 90</ref> Faceless ones have a long magical heritage. They draw upon their race's legacy of arcane spellcasting traditions to increase their power. Although faceless ones have a racially low intellect, they have a strong heritage of necromantic magic.<ref>''[[Dark Factions]]'', 53</ref> A second passage into the [[Ahn'kahet: The Old Kingdom|Old Kingdom]] has been discovered by the Scourge, and [[Baelgun]] knows the faceless ones will overpower even the undead and then be free to escape into Northrend proper, and so he vows to stop them.<ref>''[[Lands of Mystery]]'', 91</ref>
 
   
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It seems equally clear that Lordaeron had at least one, possibly more, major wars with the Trolls, seeing as the Troll Wars only gained humanity a boundary corresponding to the Alterac Mountains. This i suppose would explaine Lordaeron's impressive size compaired to the other human nations, it had more room to expand into.
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===In Warcraft III===
 
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[[User:Gadgetfingers|gadget]] ([[User talk:Gadgetfingers|talk]]) 09:06, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
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During [[Arthas]] and [[Anub'arak]]'s desperate flight towards [[Icecrown]] to defend the [[Lich King]] from [[Illidan]] and his army, they were forced to cross through the mostly underground [[nerubian]] kingdom of Azjol-Nerub. There they encountered still living nerubian freedom fighters and dwarves left over from Arthas' last trip to [[Northrend]].<ref>[[Into the Shadow Web Caverns|''Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne'' - Into the Shadow Web Caverns]]</ref> But as they delved deeper into the ruins, they also encountered "horrors" (as the [[dwarf]] leader [[Baelgun]] called them) released by Illidan's recently caused earthquakes: strange, vaguely humanoid beings that had arisen, and the giant tentacles of one massive creature. As they fought their way through, they soon encountered the monster who Anub'arak called "A [[forgotten one]]". The [[crypt lord]] Anub'arak seemed stunned that such a creature actually existed, saying he thought they were only a myth. He then told Arthas to "fight as you've never fought before". The undead barely managed to defeat the creature, but as more faceless ones appeared and the cavern began to collapse, they were forced to press on.<ref>[[The Forgotten Ones|''Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne'' - The Forgotten Ones]]</ref> Eventually, they made it out of Azjol-Nerub and [[A Symphony of Frost and Flame|did battle]] with Illidan, but not until after surviving great peril.<ref>[[Ascent to the Upper Kingdom|''Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne'' - Ascent to the Upper Kingdom]]</ref>
 
   
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===In the Comics===
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==Tol Barad==
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Tol Barad's status as a kingdom is sourced in Day of the Dragon, yet it's listed as having been founded in Cataclysm. This makes no sense, as Day of the Dragon took place WELL before Cataclysm, and it's very clear in-game that it's not under anyone's control. Why is it listed in the chart with the other kingdoms? -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 18:07, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
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[[Theramore]] came under attack from a Faceless One that had been awakened by [[Cho'gall]] to take [[Med'an]] with him. During the battle, Med'an intuitively wove together arcane and shamanic magic to defeat the ancient creature.
 
   
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:It's a territory managed by various kingdoms for the purpose of imprisonment of the big bads, it should be treated as something like the vatican or the federal district in the united states.--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 18:23, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
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===In Wrath of the Lich King===
 
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[[File:Volazj.jpg|thumb|left|Volazj, a faceless one in ''World of Warcraft'']]
 
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[[File:Water Faceless One - Abyssal Maw.jpg|thumb|A faceless one in the [[Abyssal Maw]]]]
 
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In the quests {{quest|The Faceless Ones|The Faceless Ones}} and {{quest|Proof of Demise: Herald Volazj|Proof of Demise: Herald Volazj}}, [[Kilix the Unraveler]] and [[Archmage Lan'dalock]] say that as the nerubians fought the [[Scourge]], they dug deeper underground as they lost ground to the undead. "We inadvertently exposed a tendril of the old god's will, which was made manifest in the creatures known only as the Faceless." He then goes on to say that they lost the war because "In the end, we could not fight on two fronts against such powerful enemies. Our misfortune cost us the [[War of the Spider|war against the undead]], and ultimately, our home." implying that the nerubians discovered the faceless ones by accident.<ref>{{quest|The Faceless Ones}}</ref> Interestingly, "faceless ones" (see the [[Faceless Lurker]]), and "[[forgotten one]]s" (see the mob known as [[Forgotten One]]) look similiar.
 
   
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::Neither of those examples match the explanation you gave, but I think you're agreeing with me that Tol Barad shouldn't be listed as a kingdom? -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 18:26, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
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Multiple faceless ones appear including [[Herald Volazj]], the leader of the [[Old God]]'s forces,<ref>{{quest|Proof of Demise: Herald Volazj}}</ref> and [[Darkspeaker R'khem]].
 
   
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:::It could be listed as a kingdom, but not part of the ''Seven Kingdoms''. --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 18:27, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
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Faceless ones are also encountered underneath [[Icecrown Citadel]] in a place called [[Naz'anak: The Forgotten Depths]]. Killing the [[Faceless Lurker]]s there is required for the quest {{questlong|neutral|80|Time to Hide}}. Much like [[gnoll]]s or [[ogre]]s, faceless ones have a "battlecry": ''"Shur'nab... shur'nab... [[Yogg-Saron]]!"''. It would appear, therefore, that the darkest fears about the faceless ones are true.
 
   
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::::Not as a kingdom (since it doesn't have a king) but something compared to something similar to a small independent nation-like thing--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 18:29, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
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In [[Ulduar]] faceless ones are led by [[General Vezax]] guarding the twisted passages leading to the [[Prison of Yogg-Saron]].<ref>[http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/3p1/bosstiary.html| Word of Warcraft: Bosstiary]</ref>
 
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:::::But it's never been an independent nation-like thing. It was controlled by Stromgarde during the Second War, then by Kul Tiras during the Third War, and now it seems to be under the control of nobody. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 18:32, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
   
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:Day of the Dragon and Cataclysm call it a kingdom? I would like to see the lines. Once I see them, I'll agree on adding it, next to Theramore, of course, outside the 7 kingdoms.
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===In Cataclysm===
 
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:Also, they don't need any king to be a kingdom; see Dalaran and Theramore.--[[User:Lon-ami|Lon-ami]] ([[User talk:Lon-ami|talk]]) 18:31, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
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::"Between Hasic and the shores of Khaz Modan only the ravaged island kingdom of Tol Barad brought any change to the endless waves, and Falstad had previously indicated that the party would not be landing there." (Day of the Dragon) --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 18:34, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
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''[[World of Warcraft: Cataclysm]]'' might bring new faceless ones within the [[Abyssal Maw]]. They seem to be allied with the [[Naga]] and fight against [[Neptulon]]. The Faceless Ones can also be seen in many places around Vashj'ir.
 
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:::About the only explanation that makes sense, then, given that we know it's been under the control of other nations since before the Second War, is that it was a kingdom at one point, but hasn't been in a very long time. Likely before the Dark Portal was even opened. Alternatively, it was a flub by Knaak, which is equally possible. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 18:36, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
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::::Newer lore keeps mentioning a "Duke Reginald Baradin II" which would mean that it is a dukedom of duchy. None of the other kingdoms (besides Dalaran) use titles other than "king", do they?--{{User:Sandwichman2448/Sig}} 18:44, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
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==Known members==
 
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{| class="darktable sortable"
 
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|{{RaceIconExt|FacelessOne}} {{NPC||Avatar of Soggoth}}
 
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|Avatar of Soggoth the Slitherer.
 
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|{{Text|Orange|Killable}}
 
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|{{RaceIconExt|FacelessOne}} {{NPC||Harbinger Aph'lass}}
 
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|Leader of the [[Stonetalon Peak]] invasion.
 
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|{{Text|Orange|Killable}}
 
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|{{RaceIconExt|FacelessOne}} {{NPC||Harbinger Aphotic}}
 
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|Leader of the [[Ashenvale]] invasion.
 
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|{{Text|Orange|Killable}}
 
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|{{RaceIconExt|Vezax}} {{NPC||Erudax}}
 
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|Last boss in [[Grim Batol]].
 
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|{{Text|Orange|Killable}}
 
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|{{RaceIconExt|FacelessOne}} {{NPC||Hr'nglth the Lost}}
 
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|Found in [[Swamp of Sorrows]]
 
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|{{Text|Orange|Killable}}
 
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|{{RaceIconExt|FacelessOne}} {{NPC||Ick'thys the Unfathomable}}
 
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|{{RaceIconExt|FacelessOne}} {{NPC||Darkspeaker R'khem}}
 
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|[[Quest giver]] inside the [[Saronite Mines]] in [[Icecrown]] chained by the [[vrykul]].
 
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|{{Text|Green|Alive}}
 
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|{{RaceIconExt|FacelessOne}} {{NPC||Soggoth the Slitherer}}
 
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|Buried in [[Master's Glaive]].
 
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|{{RaceIconExt|FacelessOne}} {{NPC||Commander Ulthok}}
 
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|Second boss of [[Throne of the Tides]].
 
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||{{RaceIconExt|Vezax}} {{NPC||General Vezax}}
 
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|Leader of the faceless ones in [[Ulduar]] guarding the twisted passages leading to the [[Prison of Yogg-Saron]].
 
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|{{RaceIconExt|FacelessOne}} {{NPC||Herald Volazj}}
 
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|The last boss of [[Ahn'kahet: The Old Kingdom]] located within the [[Fallen Temple of Ahn'kahet]].
 
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|{{RaceIconExt|FacelessOne}} {{NPC||Yoth'al the Devourer}}
 
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|Keeper of the [[Devouring Artifact]] in [[Ashenvale]].
 
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==Language==
 
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The faceless ones speak a " [[Faceless (language)|language]]" which no race on [[Azeroth]] is capable of understanding or pronouncing. The only known example of this language is [[Herald Volazj]]. His [[Herald_Volazj#Quotes|strange utterings]] are somehow translated directly into the minds of nearby players through telepathic whispers. [[Darkspeaker R'khem]] also communicates with other beings by projecting telepathic thoughts into their mind, together with a wave of soothing, euphoric feelings that are mixed with a sense of pain. After completing {{questlong|Neutral|80|Mind Tricks}}, he disappears with a noise that is translated as laughter in the player's mind. [[Faceless Lurker]]s sometimes utter "Shur'nab... shur'nab... [[Yogg-Saron]]!" when assaulting their victims, which never appears to be accompanied by telepathic whispers, so it seems only powerful faceless ones can express themselves in this manner.
 
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==Factions==
 
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*[[Faceless Ones]]
 
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*[[Unbroken (creep)|Unbroken]]
 
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==Types==
 
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*{{RaceIconExt|FacelessOne}} [[Faceless Horror]]
 
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*{{RaceIconExt|FacelessOne}} [[Faceless Lurker]]
 
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*{{RaceIconExt|FacelessOne}} [[Forgotten One]]
 
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*{{RaceIconExt|FacelessOne}} [[Guardian of Yogg-Saron]]
 
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*{{RaceIconExt|FacelessOne}} [[Immortal Guardian]]
 
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==Connections==
 
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[[File:Facelessone2.JPG|thumb]]
 
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*[[Anub'arak]]'s experience suggests that the faceless represent a forgotten race that was buried aeons ago within the deeps of the world, of whom only myths ever reached the [[nerubian]] people. As it is now known that the nerubians are descended from the ancient [[aqir]], the notion of a species that appears to predate both the aqir and the [[night elves]] raises many questions.
 
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*The [[Curse of Flesh]], instigated by the [[Old Gods]], was intended to make the nascent races susceptible to "assimilation". It is, therefore, entirely possible that the faceless ones were the unfortunates among [[Azeroth]]'s first mortal beings who were successfully assimilated during the [[Old_gods#The_Ordering_of_Azeroth|dawning of the world]]. If this is true, it means that the faceless are ancient beyond reckoning.
 
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*[[Hakkar the Soulflayer]] is referred to as the "faceless blood God" by [[Primal Torntusk]] in the [[Hinterlands]] and as "the faceless one" by [[Molthor]] at [[Yojamba Isle]]. One piece of loot that Hakkar drops is the [[Fang of the Faceless]]. It is not known if this description of Hakkar indicates a connection to the faceless ones that Arthas encountered or if it is simply a title.
 
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*These creatures could also be connected in one way or another to the Old Gods. The creature [[Arthas]] and Anub'arak destroyed bears a few physical similarities to [[C'Thun]]. Hakkar is also speculated to be an agent of the Old Gods (or perhaps an Old God himself), demanding blood tribute from the [[troll]]s (who were enemies of the aqir). Millenia ago, Hakkar created a schism between the troll tribes, shattering the troll empire.
 
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*Since it is never specified what the avatars of C'Thun looked like, it may be possible that these faceless ones or forgotten ones are the avatars. After the split of the [[Azj'Aqir]] empire, C'Thun obviously lost "control" over the [[Azjol-Nerub]] "sub-empire", therefore after the countless millennia since the split, it may be possible that the faceless ones are the avatars of C'Thun or [[forgotten one]]s.
 
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*The faceless one mobs in the [[Old Kingdom]] are actually called forgotten ones, which may suggest that the term forgotten one in fact refers to a faction of some sort.
 
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*[[Kilix the Unraveler]], a nerubian supplying quests related to Azjol'Nerub, speaks of the monsters as being in some way connected to the Old Gods:
 
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::''"In my peoples' struggle against the forces of the undead, they dug deeper as they lost ground. In desperation, they dug too deep.''
 
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::''We inadvertently exposed a tendril of the old god's will, which was made manifest in the creatures known only as the Faceless."''
 
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:There are many ways to interpret this statement, among them that in breaking free part of the Old God, the nerubians released his slaves. One could also argue that the Old God "manifested" the creatures out of himself as creations or extensions of himself. The forgotten one in WC3 did seem to have similar powers of creation. This might explain why the faceless ones are actually called forgotten ones in World of Warcraft.
 
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==Inspiration==
 
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It is possible that Blizzard based the Faceless Ones loosely on the Illithids from the Forgotten Realms books and Dungeons and Dragons games. Both races have an affinity with magic and telepathy, and both are evil races. Also, Illithids and Faceless Ones both have been described as slimey humanoids with "almost octopus-like heads", and both races live traditionally underground and are feared by most land-dwellers. It is likely that both creatures are based on HP Lovecraft's Cthulu mythos, which includes ancient, tentacled creatures that worship a god called Yog-Sothoth.
 
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Revision as of 18:44, 17 May 2011

Article name

I'd like to propose moving this article to Seven Kingdoms, which is the term used in the History of Warcraft section on the subject. Better to use official terminology when available.--Aeleas 12:35, 16 December 2006 (EST)

Relations?

Has any lore been released on the relations between the kingdoms during the (rather long) stretch of time between The Troll Wars and the Horde invasion? I always thought of it like the European relations between Napoleon and WW1. thus as sporadic wars, but nothing serious just a few battles determining where the Lordaeron-Gilneas border in Silverpine is placed.. Anyway it's highly unlikely that we would have peace for thousands of years.. -Rovdyr 00:40, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

The broze dragons say they were on the brink of 'civil' war before the First War happened.--SWM2448 00:53, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, and we can be quite sure that every nation had a standing army, so war was definetaly not unknown of.. but is it known how common a war would be, and how big such a war would be? -Rovdyr 12:04, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

It seems equally clear that Lordaeron had at least one, possibly more, major wars with the Trolls, seeing as the Troll Wars only gained humanity a boundary corresponding to the Alterac Mountains. This i suppose would explaine Lordaeron's impressive size compaired to the other human nations, it had more room to expand into. gadget (talk) 09:06, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

Tol Barad

Tol Barad's status as a kingdom is sourced in Day of the Dragon, yet it's listed as having been founded in Cataclysm. This makes no sense, as Day of the Dragon took place WELL before Cataclysm, and it's very clear in-game that it's not under anyone's control. Why is it listed in the chart with the other kingdoms? -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 18:07, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

It's a territory managed by various kingdoms for the purpose of imprisonment of the big bads, it should be treated as something like the vatican or the federal district in the united states.--Ashbear160 (talk) 18:23, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
Neither of those examples match the explanation you gave, but I think you're agreeing with me that Tol Barad shouldn't be listed as a kingdom? -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 18:26, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
It could be listed as a kingdom, but not part of the Seven Kingdoms. --g0urra[T҂C] 18:27, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
Not as a kingdom (since it doesn't have a king) but something compared to something similar to a small independent nation-like thing--Ashbear160 (talk) 18:29, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
But it's never been an independent nation-like thing. It was controlled by Stromgarde during the Second War, then by Kul Tiras during the Third War, and now it seems to be under the control of nobody. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 18:32, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
Day of the Dragon and Cataclysm call it a kingdom? I would like to see the lines. Once I see them, I'll agree on adding it, next to Theramore, of course, outside the 7 kingdoms.
Also, they don't need any king to be a kingdom; see Dalaran and Theramore.--Lon-ami (talk) 18:31, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
"Between Hasic and the shores of Khaz Modan only the ravaged island kingdom of Tol Barad brought any change to the endless waves, and Falstad had previously indicated that the party would not be landing there." (Day of the Dragon) --g0urra[T҂C] 18:34, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
About the only explanation that makes sense, then, given that we know it's been under the control of other nations since before the Second War, is that it was a kingdom at one point, but hasn't been in a very long time. Likely before the Dark Portal was even opened. Alternatively, it was a flub by Knaak, which is equally possible. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 18:36, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
Newer lore keeps mentioning a "Duke Reginald Baradin II" which would mean that it is a dukedom of duchy. None of the other kingdoms (besides Dalaran) use titles other than "king", do they?--SWM2448 18:44, 17 May 2011 (UTC)