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| + | I'd like to propose moving this article to [[Seven Kingdoms]], which is the term used in the [[History of Warcraft]] section on the subject. Better to use official terminology when available.--[[User:Aeleas|Aeleas]] 12:35, 16 December 2006 (EST) |
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| − | |description=Increases the range of your Fire spells except Frostfire Bolt by 3/6 yds. |
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| − | '''Flame Throwing''' is a [[mage]] talent that increases the range of [[Fire]] spells (but for [[Frostfire Bolt]]) by 3 yds per rank, up to 6 yds at max rank 2. This talent is useful in most every PvE and PvP build that makes primary use of Fire spells. This talent is especially useful for [[Fire Blast]], which has a fairly short range. |
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| + | Has any lore been released on the relations between the kingdoms during the (rather long) stretch of time between [[The Troll Wars]] and the Horde invasion? I always thought of it like the European relations between Napoleon and WW1. thus as sporadic wars, but nothing serious just a few battles determining where the Lordaeron-Gilneas border in Silverpine is placed.. Anyway it's highly unlikely that we would have peace for thousands of years.. -[[User:Rovdyr|Rovdyr]] 00:40, 1 March 2008 (UTC) |
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| + | :The broze dragons say they were on the brink of 'civil' war before the First War happened.--{{User:Sandwichman2448/Sig}} 00:53, 1 March 2008 (UTC) |
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| − | Similar mage talents exist for other spells schools - [[Arctic Reach]] in the frost tree extends the range of Frost spells, while [[Magic Attunement]] in the arcane tree extends the range of Arcane spells. |
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| + | ::Yeah, and we can be quite sure that every nation had a standing army, so war was definetaly not unknown of.. but is it known how common a war would be, and how big such a war would be? -[[User:Rovdyr|Rovdyr]] 12:04, 1 March 2008 (UTC) |
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| + | It seems equally clear that Lordaeron had at least one, possibly more, major wars with the Trolls, seeing as the Troll Wars only gained humanity a boundary corresponding to the Alterac Mountains. This i suppose would explaine Lordaeron's impressive size compaired to the other human nations, it had more room to expand into. |
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| + | Tol Barad's status as a kingdom is sourced in Day of the Dragon, yet it's listed as having been founded in Cataclysm. This makes no sense, as Day of the Dragon took place WELL before Cataclysm, and it's very clear in-game that it's not under anyone's control. Why is it listed in the chart with the other kingdoms? -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 18:07, 17 May 2011 (UTC) |
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| + | :It's a territory managed by various kingdoms for the purpose of imprisonment of the big bads, it should be treated as something like the vatican or the federal district in the united states.--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 18:23, 17 May 2011 (UTC) |
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| + | ::Neither of those examples match the explanation you gave, but I think you're agreeing with me that Tol Barad shouldn't be listed as a kingdom? -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 18:26, 17 May 2011 (UTC) |
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| + | :::It could be listed as a kingdom, but not part of the ''Seven Kingdoms''. --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 18:27, 17 May 2011 (UTC) |
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| + | ::::Not as a kingdom (since it doesn't have a king) but something compared to something similar to a small independent nation-like thing--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 18:29, 17 May 2011 (UTC) |
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| + | :Day of the Dragon and Cataclysm call it a kingdom? I would like to see the lines. Once I see them, I'll agree on adding it, next to Theramore, of course, outside the 7 kingdoms. |
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| + | :Also, they don't need any king to be a kingdom; see Dalaran and Theramore.--[[User:Lon-ami|Lon-ami]] ([[User talk:Lon-ami|talk]]) 18:31, 17 May 2011 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 18:31, 17 May 2011
Article name
I'd like to propose moving this article to Seven Kingdoms, which is the term used in the History of Warcraft section on the subject. Better to use official terminology when available.--Aeleas 12:35, 16 December 2006 (EST)
Relations?
Has any lore been released on the relations between the kingdoms during the (rather long) stretch of time between The Troll Wars and the Horde invasion? I always thought of it like the European relations between Napoleon and WW1. thus as sporadic wars, but nothing serious just a few battles determining where the Lordaeron-Gilneas border in Silverpine is placed.. Anyway it's highly unlikely that we would have peace for thousands of years.. -Rovdyr 00:40, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
- The broze dragons say they were on the brink of 'civil' war before the First War happened.--SWM2448 00:53, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, and we can be quite sure that every nation had a standing army, so war was definetaly not unknown of.. but is it known how common a war would be, and how big such a war would be? -Rovdyr 12:04, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
It seems equally clear that Lordaeron had at least one, possibly more, major wars with the Trolls, seeing as the Troll Wars only gained humanity a boundary corresponding to the Alterac Mountains. This i suppose would explaine Lordaeron's impressive size compaired to the other human nations, it had more room to expand into. gadget (talk) 09:06, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
Tol Barad
Tol Barad's status as a kingdom is sourced in Day of the Dragon, yet it's listed as having been founded in Cataclysm. This makes no sense, as Day of the Dragon took place WELL before Cataclysm, and it's very clear in-game that it's not under anyone's control. Why is it listed in the chart with the other kingdoms? -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 18:07, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
- It's a territory managed by various kingdoms for the purpose of imprisonment of the big bads, it should be treated as something like the vatican or the federal district in the united states.--Ashbear160 (talk) 18:23, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
- Neither of those examples match the explanation you gave, but I think you're agreeing with me that Tol Barad shouldn't be listed as a kingdom? -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 18:26, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
- Not as a kingdom (since it doesn't have a king) but something compared to something similar to a small independent nation-like thing--Ashbear160 (talk) 18:29, 17 May 2011 (UTC)