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Let's do something: make comparisons between factions. What? What are you talking about? I'm talking about taking something, for example, from the Alliance and the Horde, and see if they're counterparts. For example:
  
Let's do something: make comparisons between factions. What? What are you talking about? I'm talking about taking something, for example, from the Alliance and the Horde, and see if they're counterparts. For example:
   
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Alliance - Horde
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*Alliance - Horde
   
 
Yeah, that was a simple one, but let's add more:
  
Yeah, that was a simple one, but let's add more:
   
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The Exodar - Silvermoon City
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*The Exodar - Silvermoon City
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Aldor - Scryers
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*Aldor - Scryers
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Valiance Expedition - Warsong Offensive
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*Valiance Expedition - Warsong Offensive
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Danath Trollbane - Nazgrel
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*Danath Trollbane - Nazgrel
   
 
I think you should have understood it by now.
  
I think you should have understood it by now.
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*Ironforge Brigade - Orgrimmar Legion
  
*Ironforge Brigade - Orgrimmar Legion
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**[[Field Marshal Snowfall]] - [[Warlord Gorchuk]] ''(War Effort commanders)''
 
**[[Marshal Bluewall]] - [[General Kirika]]
  
**[[Marshal Bluewall]] - [[General Kirika]]
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**[[Captain Blackanvil]] - [[Krug Skullsplit]] ''(Captains)''
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**[[Rifleman Torrig]] - [[Scout Bloodfist]]
   
   
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*Ravasaur Trainers - Wintersaber Trainers
  
*Ravasaur Trainers - Wintersaber Trainers
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====Others====
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*Rebel Camp - Grom'gol Base Camp
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**[[Lieutenant Doren]] - [[Commander Aggro'gosh]]
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*Nethergarde - Stonard
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**[[Alexandra Constantine]] - [[Breyk]] ''(flight masters)''
   
 
===Alliance - Horde (Outland)===
  
===Alliance - Horde (Outland)===
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***[[Captain Alina]] - [[Captain Boneshatter]]
  
***[[Captain Alina]] - [[Captain Boneshatter]]
 
**Allerian Stronghold - Stonebreaker Hold
  
**Allerian Stronghold - Stonebreaker Hold
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***[[Auric Sunchaser]] - [[Rokag]] ''(leaders)''
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***[[Jenai Starwhisper]] - [[Tooki]]
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***[[Andarl]] - [[Kurgatok]]
 
**Allerian Post - Stonebreaker Camp
  
**Allerian Post - Stonebreaker Camp
 
***[[Lieutenant Meridian]] - [[Sergeant Chawni]]
  
***[[Lieutenant Meridian]] - [[Sergeant Chawni]]
 
***[[Theloria Shadecloak]] - [[Shadowstalker Kaide]]
  
***[[Theloria Shadecloak]] - [[Shadowstalker Kaide]]
 
**Wildhammer Stronghold - Shadowmoon Village
  
**Wildhammer Stronghold - Shadowmoon Village
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**Others
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***[[Sabellian|Baron Sablemane]] - [[Rexxar]]
   
   
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===Alliance - Horde (Northrend)===
  
===Alliance - Horde (Northrend)===
   
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*Alliance Vanguard - Horde Expedition
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*Valiance Expedition (and 7th Legion) - Warsong Offensive (and Kor'kron Guard)
  
 
**Valiance Keep - Warsong Hold
  
**Valiance Keep - Warsong Hold
 
***[[General Arlos]] - [[Garrosh Hellscream]]
  
***[[General Arlos]] - [[Garrosh Hellscream]]
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***[[Halford Wyrmbane]] - [[Overlord Agmar]]
  
***[[Halford Wyrmbane]] - [[Overlord Agmar]]
 
**Fordragon Hold - Kor'kron Vanguard
  
**Fordragon Hold - Kor'kron Vanguard
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***[[Bolvar Fordragon]] - [[Saurfang the Younger]]
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***[[Bolvar Fordragon]] - [[Dranosh Saurfang]]
 
**Orgrim's Hammer - Skybreaker
  
**Orgrim's Hammer - Skybreaker
 
***[[Justin Bartlett]] - [[Korm Blackscar]]
  
***[[Justin Bartlett]] - [[Korm Blackscar]]
 
***[[Thassarian]] - [[Koltira Deathweaver]]
  
***[[Thassarian]] - [[Koltira Deathweaver]]
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**Others
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***[[Jaina Proudmoore]] - [[Sylvanas Windrunner]]
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***[[Muradin Bronzebeard]] - [[Varok Saurfang]]
   
   
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===Neutral===
  
===Neutral===
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*Argent Dawn - Cenarion Circle
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*Argent Crusade - Cenarion Circle
  
 
**[[Tirion Fordring]] - [[Malfurion Stormrage]]
  
**[[Tirion Fordring]] - [[Malfurion Stormrage]]
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*Argent Crusade - Knights of the Ebon Blade
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**Argent Vanguard - Shadow Vault
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***[[Aliocha Segard]] - [[Duchess Mynx]] ''(quartermasters)''
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***[[Aedan Moran]] - [[Morlia Doomwing]] ''(flight masters)''
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**Crusaders' Pinnacle - Death's Rise
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***[[Penumbrius]] - [[Dreadwind]] ''(flight masters)''
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**Icecrown Citadel
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***[[Tirion Fordring]] - [[Darion Mograine]]
   
   
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:::Finally, if you want, we could list all the main faction characters, and then try connecting them.--[[User:Lon-ami|Lon-ami]] ([[User talk:Lon-ami|talk]]) 11:03, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
  
:::Finally, if you want, we could list all the main faction characters, and then try connecting them.--[[User:Lon-ami|Lon-ami]] ([[User talk:Lon-ami|talk]]) 11:03, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
 
::::Ironforge and Orgrimmar are enemies at Alterac Valley. (While technically it is the Stormpike and Frostwolf, they are both allied to the Ironforge and Orgrimmar.) Of course they are also allied with Horde and Alliance, but it was the best I could think of. {{RaceIcon|Dwarf|Male|Small|}}{{ClassIcon|Paladin}}[[User:Okolorion|Okolorion]][[User talk:Okolorion|<font color="#007" title="My spam page!">Talk</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Okolorion|<font color="#009999" title="My assorted works">Contribs</font>]] 02:47, October 5, 2009 (UTC)
  
::::Ironforge and Orgrimmar are enemies at Alterac Valley. (While technically it is the Stormpike and Frostwolf, they are both allied to the Ironforge and Orgrimmar.) Of course they are also allied with Horde and Alliance, but it was the best I could think of. {{RaceIcon|Dwarf|Male|Small|}}{{ClassIcon|Paladin}}[[User:Okolorion|Okolorion]][[User talk:Okolorion|<font color="#007" title="My spam page!">Talk</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Okolorion|<font color="#009999" title="My assorted works">Contribs</font>]] 02:47, October 5, 2009 (UTC)
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Shouldn't it be:
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"Neutral:
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Argent Crusade - Knights of the Ebon Blade *
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Tirion Fordring - Darion Mograine"? [[User:TherasTaneel|TherasTaneel]] ([[User talk:TherasTaneel|talk]]) 19:24, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

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Forums: Village pump → Warcraft lore → Comparisons "project"

Let's do something: make comparisons between factions. What? What are you talking about? I'm talking about taking something, for example, from the Alliance and the Horde, and see if they're counterparts. For example:

  • Alliance - Horde

Yeah, that was a simple one, but let's add more:

  • The Exodar - Silvermoon City
  • Aldor - Scryers
  • Valiance Expedition - Warsong Offensive
  • Danath Trollbane - Nazgrel

I think you should have understood it by now.

And, well, what the heck is this for? It can be just for fun, or trying to guess stuff. If we follow the patterns, everything has an opposite. If we have something without opposite, that means it could be included somewhere later, opening stuff to plots or whatever.

Also, if you want, you can dare people to find the opposite of something.

I'll update the list myself when we find new comparisons. If you think any of them is wrong, or you have better solutions, post here.

List

Alliance - Horde (Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor)

  • Darnassus - Undercity
    • Tyrande Whisperwind - Sylvanas Windrunner
    • Fandral Staghelm - Varimathras
    • Shandris Feathermoon - Nathanos Blightcaller


  • Gnomeregan exiles - Darkspear tribe
    • Gelbin Mekkatorque - Vol'jin
    • Sicco Thermaplugg - Zalazane


  • The Exodar - Silvermoon City
    • Velen - Lor'themar Theron
    • Nobundo - Liadrin
    • O'ros - M'uru
    • Maraad - Valeera Sanguinar


  • Theramore - Stonemaul clan
    • Jaina Proudmoore - Rexxar


  • Wildhammer clan - Revantusk tribe
    • Falstad Wildhammer - Torntusk






  • Ravasaur Trainers - Wintersaber Trainers


Others


Alliance - Horde (Outland)


  • Kurenai - Mag'har
    • Moi'bff Jill - Bullrok
    • Uriku - Nula the Butcher
    • Narasu - Nasela
    • Sparik - Osrok the Immovable
    • Ogir - Vanteg
    • Nancila - Qualia
    • Luftasia - Wilda Bearmane
    • Isel - Tikkit
    • Borto - Mathar G'ochar

Alliance - Horde (Northrend)



  • Explorers' League - Hand of Vengeance


  • Frostborn - Taunka

Neutral





  • Frenzyhearth tribe - Oracles

Comments

WHoA, Ironforge, Orgrimmar, Stormwind and Thunder Bluff are missing! Yeah, just because I don't know how to pair them. See by yourself:

  • Ironforge - Orgrimmar / Stormwind - Thunder Bluff:
    • 2 races / 1 race
    • Brewfest site / Darkmoon Faire site

A possible solution would be to make them all to be linked in a circle, meaning the comparisons would be 2-2 instead of 1-1. Dunno. They could be linked to the other 2 vanilla cities, thus making it 3-3.

Anyway, feel free to comment about what would you add, and I'll add it to the list.--Lon-ami (talk) 18:17, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

For the Alliance it is a little tricky, since Blizzard has mixed up IF and SW a bit, but lately Stormwind has more come to represent the Alliance capital. On the Horde side, Orgrimmar has always been the Horde capital. That messes up the pairings above a little bit.
  • Orgrimmar / Stormwind
    • Thrall / Varian Wrynn
    • High Overlord Saurfang / Highlord Bolvar Fordragon
    • Hall of Legends / Champions' Hall
    • Ragefire Chasm / Stormwind Stockade
    • 4 Zeppelins / 2 Boats
--Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 8:23 PM PST 28 Sep 2009
Some Thunder Bluff and Ironforge pairings...
  • Thunder Bluff / Ironforge
    • Cairne Bloodhoof / Muradin Bronzebeard
    • Bloodhoof tribe / Bronzebeard clan
    • Zeppelin to Orgrimmar / Deeprun Tram to Stormwind
--Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 9:26 PM PST 28 Sep 2009
Yeah, nice ideas. We could try making the comparisons by dates, too. Just to be able to add more people around. I think that the final solution for the main vanilla factions would be a 3-3. Why?
  • Katrana Prestor - Varimathras: betrayers, manipulators.
  • Fandral Staghelm - Magatha Grimtotem: annoying the leader.
It's still too problematic. I'll be focusing on the minor factions first, but feel free to post any ideas that could help.
Anyway, other common things between those capital cities:
  • Ironforge - Thunder Bluff: Isolated from main transport hubs.
  • Ironforge - Orgrimmar: Armies at Ahn'Qiraj.
Finally, if you want, we could list all the main faction characters, and then try connecting them.--Lon-ami (talk) 11:03, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
Ironforge and Orgrimmar are enemies at Alterac Valley. (While technically it is the Stormpike and Frostwolf, they are both allied to the Ironforge and Orgrimmar.) Of course they are also allied with Horde and Alliance, but it was the best I could think of. IconSmall Dwarf MalePaladinOkolorionTalk Contribs 02:47, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

Shouldn't it be: "Neutral: Argent Crusade - Knights of the Ebon Blade * Tirion Fordring - Darion Mograine"? TherasTaneel (talk) 19:24, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

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