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'''Handiir''' is a level 30 [[weapon master]] located in [[Traders' Tier]] in the [[Draenei]] capital of [[the Exodar]].
 
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== File name standardization schema ==
He teaches the skill to wield the following:
 
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Gourra:
*[[Crossbows]]
 
*[[Daggers]]
 
*[[One-handed]] [[Mace]]s
 
*[[Two-handed]] [[Mace]]s
 
*[[One-handed]] [[Sword]]s
 
*[[Two-handed]] [[Sword]]s
 
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See [[List of the Exodar NPCs]].
 
   
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Several months ago, you advised me to be more specific in file names when uploading, yet today, you truncate the filename back down to what I was using before.
[[Category:Draenei]]
 
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[[Category:World of Warcraft weapon master NPCs]]
 
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Please advise what standardization you want to use on this website, and where to locate such standardization guidelines so that I may use them for future uploads.
[[Category:Exodar NPCs]]
 
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[[User:Ariule|Ariule]] ([[User talk:Ariule|talk]])
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:I believe that describing the background and the race of the character is a bit too much
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:Just naming the file like the item (eventually followed numbers if we use multiple screens) seems fair enough.
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:{{User:A'noob/sig}} 21:54, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
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::When I was doing just the item name a year ago, I was informed that it was not enough, especially when other items of kit were in the image. In addition, several images were deleted due to the thought that I was using an offline image editor. Does WoWWiki have a file name standards page that people can follow? It would be helpful if there was.
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::[[User:Ariule|Ariule]] ([[User talk:Ariule|talk]])
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:::Provide the item names and I might remember them. --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 23:55, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
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::::I am unconcerned with the past file names, I am wishing to set a standard for moving forward.
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::::[[User:Ariule|Ariule]] ([[User talk:Ariule|talk]])
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:::::As A'noob said, naming the file like the item is enough. --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 00:29, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
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::::::If I remember correctly, cause this has been a while... you were first naming them something like '''staff''' and '''dagger''', very generic names like that. Then you were asked to be more precise with the names, which is why you starting naming them very precise names. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 02:02, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
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== Re: Your edit summary comment ==
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As you said: ''A music video about gold farmers doesn't count.''
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<sup>&#91;[[WoWWiki:Citation|''citation needed'']]&#93;</sup> --[[User:ENG|ENG]] ([[User talk:ENG|talk]]) 13:43, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
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:If you don't consider that a music video, then I don't know what to say. --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 13:47, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
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::I mean about the part that it doesn't count. --[[User:ENG|ENG]] ([[User talk:ENG|talk]]) 13:58, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
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:::A music video that jokes about gold farmers doesn't count as research about the subject. If you have a video about someone who has researched about the subject then go ahead, but a music video is not proper. --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 14:02, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
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Rearranged many parts of the gold farming page, added some links to researcher sources. Still needs work. No comment on applicability of "music video" about gold farmers, though apparently Ge Jin has made documentary video (which I did not link to, but which may be available through the links I did add. --[[User:Eirik Ratcatcher|Eirik Ratcatcher]] ([[User talk:Eirik Ratcatcher|talk]]) 22:54, August 31, 2010 (UTC)
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==Dustwallow March==
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[[User talk:A'noob#Dustwallow Marsh|Tell me]] what you think about it.
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{{User:A'noob/sig}} 14:54, August 29, 2010 (UTC)
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==Non-Enchanting Enchant Tooltip Syntax==
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While Enchantments with the type "Enchant", such as {{loot|enchant|Enchant Weapon - Icebreaker}}, display a proper tooltip when moused over, Enchants of all other professions (properly following nearly the same syntax on the [[Template:Embroid|Embroid template]]) display only "no tooltip" error on mouseover. So, [[Leatherworking]]'s {{loot|enchant|Fur Lining - Stamina}} or [[Blacksmithing]]'s {{loot|enchant|Socket Bracer}} generate no tooltip, although their template syntax seems to be correct.
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Is there a different term or syntax on either the link or item page to make the mouseover tooltips display properly? I can't seem to find a recipe listing page where the Embroid type of tooltip works correctly. Thanks!
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[[User:Joeartguy|Joeartguy]] ([[User talk:Joeartguy|talk]]) 21:00, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
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:I'm not sure what's wrong with it. [[User:Pcj|Pcj]] is the guy'd want to talk with about this. --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 21:06, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
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::And it's surreptitiously begun working again, apparently, as you can see in this very section... so hurrah and never mind. [[User:Joeartguy|Joeartguy]] ([[User talk:Joeartguy|talk]]) 21:41, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
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[[Special:Wantedcategories|Here's]] the full list of wanted categories, which probably contains many more errors. --Elassint 19:12, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
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== hey u there ==
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i need help im on the lich game part and it just looks like a screen saver wat do i do <small>—The preceding [[WoWWiki:Signature|unsigned]] comment was added by {{User|Dmuffick}}.</small>
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:You are probably on the login screen. Have you typed in your account information to log in to the game? --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 16:08, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
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::ya its just a blank screen exept for the dragona and like a city i cant do anything <small>—The preceding [[WoWWiki:Signature|unsigned]] comment was added by {{User|Dmuffick}}.</small>
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[[File:Login screen Wrath of the Lich King.jpg|thumb]]
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:::Does your login screen not look like this? (see the image to the right) --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 16:14, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
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::::ya its just the picture tho no boxes <small>—The preceding [[WoWWiki:Signature|unsigned]] comment was added by {{User|Dmuffick}}.</small>
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:::::Click the "Edit" link at this section to reply to this easier. Where did you get the game client? --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 16:23, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
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wow.com --<small>—The preceding [[WoWWiki:Signature|unsigned]] comment was added by {{User|Dmuffick}}.</small>
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:Stop feeding the troll Görra. --{{User:ShandrisForever/Sig}} 09:44, September 20, 2010 (UTC)
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== New wowwiki layout ==
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Has the layout for Wowwiki changed or am I going crazy? --{{User:ShandrisForever/Sig}} 15:05, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
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: Probably just you ;) They are making some tweaks for the oncoming new version of the Wiki skins though, so things may move around a little. -=- <span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 1em;">[[Image:IconSmall_DrakeAzure.gif]]&nbsp;[[User:Drazisil|Drazisil]] [<sup>[[User talk:Drazisil|t]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Drazisil|c]]</sub>]</span> 15:16, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
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:It has changed for those who use Monobook. Apparently all skins default to Monaco right now. Let's hope it's just a hiccup. --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 15:30, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
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::I hope so, I feel so lost with this skin, can't even find my Watchlist!
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::{{User:A'noob/sig}} 08:13, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
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== "The" Deadmines ==
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In light of the request on the [[:Category:Things to do|to-do page]] to move all of the pages that were in <code>Category:Deadmines</code> to <code>Category:The Deadmines</code>, do you think the actual pages for [[Deadmines]] and [[Deadmines (original)]] should be moved/renamed to follow this standard? {{User:Gilmoreja/Sig0}} 16:10, October 11, 2010 (UTC)
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:No, articles will not use "The" as first. For example see [[Barrens]] and [[:Category:The Barrens quests]]. --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 16:20, October 11, 2010 (UTC)
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==Template:USERNAME==
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I was wondering what javascript you've got running (and where it is located) that allows the [[Template:USERNAME]] to work properly? [[User:HooperBandP|HooperBandP]] ([[User talk:HooperBandP|talk]]) 18:59, October 11, 2010 (UTC)
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:It's in [[MediaWiki:Common.js]]: <code><nowiki>if (wgUserName != null) $("span.insertusername").html(wgUserName);</nowiki></code> --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 19:16, October 11, 2010 (UTC)
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== Frost Strike ==
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Hi, with 4.0.1 about to go live, Frost Strike will become an innate benefit of choosing the Frost tree. You're a little bit late at adding it to [[:Category:Death knight talents]]. Removed; please understand. :P [[User:Sarvam|Sarvam]] ([[User talk:Sarvam|talk]]) 07:24, October 12, 2010 (UTC)
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:It's still talented since you need to choose a talent to get it. Having an ability only in its class' ability category would imply that it's ''not'' talented. --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 07:39, October 12, 2010 (UTC)
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== Fishy User ==
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I recently undid a change on the [[Server: Kil'jaeden US]] page... Someone uploaded and posted an inappropriate picture there, and I thought you would be best to deal with it... Also, for future reference, what should I do when I notice something like that, other than jumping on the nearest admin's talk page who may or may not be online? [[User:Tanooki1432|Tanooki1432]] ([[User talk:Tanooki1432|talk]]) 21:58, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
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:I deleted the offending image. If you see any more vandalism, you could join the [irc://chat.freenode.net/wowpedia #wowpedia IRC channel] and alert any admins about it. --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 22:02, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
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== Vanguard of Valor ==
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I created the page today, and you changed the title, which is of course fine! But if I now do a search for 'Vanguard of Valor', I get no results, which is kind of counter productive for the page's validity. Is there any sort of solution or will people have to actually search for guild;vanguard of valor? [[User:Saranini|Saranini]] ([[User talk:Saranini|talk]]) 10:09, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
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:There's a guild search on the [[Guild]] article. The default search does not include the guild namespace. --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 10:35, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
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Well that's a shame, it was possible on wowwiki, but I won't pretend to know enough of this sort of thing to claim it should be possible here. Only that it detracts from the usefulness of even having a guild page featured here if looking for it will be so counter intuitive. People generally know what a guild is so I doubt many actually have the reflex of first looking up what a guild is before looking up an actual existing one. Just adding this so maybe in future you guys would consider changing that, but it is what it is and I'll live with it. [[User:Saranini|Saranini]] ([[User talk:Saranini|talk]]) 10:44, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
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:If it was possible on the WoWWiki search then this must be a bug. I'll look into it. --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 10:48, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
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::Not necessarily a bug, not necessarily working by design. I think it's just a config tweak, but I don't really know if we want to make it. --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|talk]]) 12:45, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
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== Bags and Cataclysm ==
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''"In Cataclysm, bags that you loot and are non-BoP will be automatically equipped instead of taking up an bag slot."''
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I read this on an article (that you modified, to add this) and was wondering if any of the following applied:
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:1: You meant Non Binding
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:2: You meant "If you don't have 4 bags already"
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:3: "If its better than a current one"
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:4: It is BOP
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You must agree, that if something is BOE and you loot it, and equip it, you automatically bind it to your character, making it impossible to give BOE items to alts, and essentially, making BOE into BOP. (Listing a source might be good too, if you don't know the answer yourself) [[User:Sraw|Sraw]] ([[User talk:Sraw|talk]]) 05:55, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
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:It seems like I was unclear. It works like this:
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:#If you have a bag slot (not inventory slot) free and loot a non-BoP bag, you will automatically equip it
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:#If it's a BoP bag you'll still get a dialogue but automatically equip it after agreeing to pick it up
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:#If you have no bag slots left, the bag will be in your inventory
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:#You'll still be able to un-equip the non-BoP bag by dragging it from your bag row.
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:I hope that cleared it up. --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 06:14, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
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::Still confused, because apparently if its '''BOE''', you will '''bind''' it to you if you have a free bag slot open. Thanks for the other clarification though [[User:Sraw|Sraw]] ([[User talk:Sraw|talk]]) 06:38, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
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:::Well, the likely hood that you would encounter a BoE bag before filling up all your bag slots is rather low... they don't start binding until what? 18 slots? a few 16 slotters? {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 07:03, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
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::::My friends and I specalize in getting 16 slotters out to all the nooblets, ([[Netherweave Bag]]), and if it didn't care if you had all 4 or not, then that would severely gimp all BOE. Since most high level people will have all 4 slots filled, it wont matter for them, but I don't like the idea of a BOE bag becoming bound when you acquire it, without letting you have a chance to sell it or give it to another character. For instance (even though I doubt this would occur for me), if you were a tailor who strenuously leveled up to 350 tailoring, made some Netherweave bags specifically to sell, even though you don't have all 4 bag slots filled... would it force them to be bound to you? [[User:Sraw|Sraw]] ([[User talk:Sraw|talk]]) 07:36, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
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:::::Non-BoP does not mean BoE. Non-BoP also includes bags that won't bind to you, such as [[Small Blue Pouch]]. Note that it also says '''loot''', not '''obtain''' or '''get''', which are two different things. --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 07:45, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
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::::::Non-BoP means specifically that it isn't BoP, but it could be BoE or nonbinding. Automatically equipping nonbinding bags is all well and good, because you can simply unequip it and pass it along. The distinction on loot and obtain though, that changes everything. I guess I didn't know that the particular wording on that was that important, as it appeared to me to be an interpretation rather then a quotation. Thank you for clarification. [[User:Sraw|Sraw]] ([[User talk:Sraw|talk]]) 08:37, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
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== Character Table Box ==
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Hi - just wanted to say thanks for having the Character Table Box on your page which I shamelessly stole (giving you kudos of course). Let me know if you wanted a bigger credit, though. --{{FactionIcon|Aldor|Small}}&nbsp;[[User:Celuur|Celuur]] ([[User talk:Celuur|Talk page]] | [[Special:Contributions/Celuur|Contribs]]) 04:44, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
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:No problem, I'm glad you like it. --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 12:03, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
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== nowrap ==
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Without span formatting such as [[:template:nowrap]] there are window sizes where the gold piece symbol is line-wrapped to below the 5000. using the CSS in the template prevents this.
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{| class="darktable zebra"
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I.E., even on a narrow screen, the second {{cost|5000}} will never wrap in-between the number and the symbol. I would further argue that the cost template should have said css added to it. —[[User:MJBurrage|MJBurrage]]<sup>([[User talk:MJBurrage|T]]•[[Special:Contributions/MJBurrage|C]])</sup> 00:17, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
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:I resized my browser window to check when this would be the case, and the lowest resolution where it wouldn't break was at about 900 pixels wide. I don't think that many users browse articles with that small resolution. --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 00:22, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
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:: I noticed it, since I often use my widescreen monitor with two windows open, each using half the screen. Regardless of the effect on tables, the same thing happens in paragraphs even at much higher widths; without nowrap, the number can be at the end of one line, while the symbol is at the beginning of the next line.
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:: The best solution with respect to the cost template (and related templates) would be to add "white-space:nowrap;" to the css in the template (which I can't do for the cost template)
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:: Regardless there are other times when nowrap can be handy, such as infoboxes or other situations where split-information might be confusing.
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:: —[[User:MJBurrage|MJBurrage]]<sup>([[User talk:MJBurrage|T]]•[[Special:Contributions/MJBurrage|C]])</sup> 02:41, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
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== Thanks ==
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Your table format attributed accordingly *grins* (no actual user pages were harmed during this shameless rifling through the code). Sorry for locking you out whilst I looked up profiles and such... [[User:Tequima|Tequima]] ([[User talk:Tequima|talk]]) 15:12, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
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== (playable) v. (lore) ==
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Recently I changed the naming convention on the two Worgen articles to make the default one relate to the playable faction, with the other being ''Worgen (lore)''. [http://logs.wowpedia.dk/%23wowpedia/20101107.html I asked about doing this on IRC] <small>(approx. half way down the page)</small>, met no objections, [[User:Mikk|at least one person]] was in favour of it. Personally I'm a big fan of lore - I'm not biased against it - but I ''do'' expect more people to be interested in the article on the playable faction than reading up about the lore behind them as a species (or sub-species, whatever).
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I wanted to leave it like that for a few days to see if I'd be met strong opposition on-wiki (as previously stated, I met none at all on IRC) and if that wasn't the case I was going to request community input on the same being done universally so that Worgen wouldn't be the exception. Having tried to get input before the move(s) - you may notice [[User_talk:Foxlit#17:09_.09.28Deletion_log.29.E2.80.8E_._._.5BStarlightblunder.E2.80.8E_.282.C3.97.29.5D|I was given assistance by an Administrator]], and not the same one who encouraged me on IRC, either - I decided to give it a shot. It lasted all of twenty minutes before I was reverted wholesale by you.
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While I've lurked on Wowpedia / WoWWiki for forever and a day, I'm far from actively contributing, so I'd like to know how I could have improved upon this to perhaps be more successful with future endeavors. Two administrators seemed open to my idea, not a single person disagreed with it, and then you reverted. Why? With an Administrator assisting me and so I can only presume thus at least semi-in favour of the idea, there would have been a consensus ''for'' the change at that time. I wouldn't be ''that'' disappointed, but '''you were in the channel at the time I asked for feedback, you didn't comment on it''', while Mikk did - providing positive feedback. Hell, you were actively talking in the channel!
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The way I read it there's two people (myself and Mikk) in favour of the idea, with Foxlit probably supporting it, and while you dislike it enough to revert it (without a talk page message or edit summary that I can locate) you didn't seem to dislike it enough to talk to me on IRC. It's nice to have input on ideas you're considering and not quite as nice to be reverted without a single word of advice on what to do differently. Why you would let me go ahead with it only to revert me, which is more work for you as well as me, I cannot fathom.
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For the life of me I can't see what I did wrong. Before I began I got a consensus - a majority in favor if you dislike my idea (you've yet to say so) - and my efforts weren't seen worthy of a single edit summary or a courtesy message on my talk page? I understand there are uninformed edits that need to be corrected but it never hurts to have the courtesy to at least talk to the people who are editing in good faith. That you simply protected the page against future moves by non-Admins in the future - also without a reason attached - rubbed salt in the wound. I won't start an edit war about it but I'm quite tempted to ask for feedback - ''again'' - this time on-Wiki and seek to have your revisions undone.
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I'll try one last time to get your input on this before considering if I raise another discussion on it or not, though I do wonder if you'll bother to talk to me this time. [[File:A_F_K_sig_2.jpg|50px|link=User:A_F_K_When_Needed]] [[User:A_F_K_When_Needed|A F K]] [[User_talk:A_F_K_When_Needed|When]] [[Special:Contributions/A_F_K_When_Needed|Needed]] 21:55, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Revision as of 21:55, 11 November 2010

Previous discussions archived:

File name standardization schema

Gourra:

Several months ago, you advised me to be more specific in file names when uploading, yet today, you truncate the filename back down to what I was using before.

Please advise what standardization you want to use on this website, and where to locate such standardization guidelines so that I may use them for future uploads.

Ariule (talk)

I believe that describing the background and the race of the character is a bit too much
Just naming the file like the item (eventually followed numbers if we use multiple screens) seems fair enough.
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 21:54, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
When I was doing just the item name a year ago, I was informed that it was not enough, especially when other items of kit were in the image. In addition, several images were deleted due to the thought that I was using an offline image editor. Does WoWWiki have a file name standards page that people can follow? It would be helpful if there was.
Ariule (talk)
Provide the item names and I might remember them. --g0urra[T҂C] 23:55, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
I am unconcerned with the past file names, I am wishing to set a standard for moving forward.
Ariule (talk)
As A'noob said, naming the file like the item is enough. --g0urra[T҂C] 00:29, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
If I remember correctly, cause this has been a while... you were first naming them something like staff and dagger, very generic names like that. Then you were asked to be more precise with the names, which is why you starting naming them very precise names. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 02:02, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Your edit summary comment

As you said: A music video about gold farmers doesn't count.

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[citation needed] --ENG (talk) 13:43, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

If you don't consider that a music video, then I don't know what to say. --g0urra[T҂C] 13:47, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
I mean about the part that it doesn't count. --ENG (talk) 13:58, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
A music video that jokes about gold farmers doesn't count as research about the subject. If you have a video about someone who has researched about the subject then go ahead, but a music video is not proper. --g0urra[T҂C] 14:02, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Rearranged many parts of the gold farming page, added some links to researcher sources. Still needs work. No comment on applicability of "music video" about gold farmers, though apparently Ge Jin has made documentary video (which I did not link to, but which may be available through the links I did add. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 22:54, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Dustwallow March

Tell me what you think about it.

IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 14:54, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Non-Enchanting Enchant Tooltip Syntax

While Enchantments with the type "Enchant", such as [Enchant Weapon - Icebreaker], display a proper tooltip when moused over, Enchants of all other professions (properly following nearly the same syntax on the Embroid template) display only "no tooltip" error on mouseover. So, Leatherworking's [Fur Lining - Stamina] or Blacksmithing's [Socket Bracer] generate no tooltip, although their template syntax seems to be correct.

Is there a different term or syntax on either the link or item page to make the mouseover tooltips display properly? I can't seem to find a recipe listing page where the Embroid type of tooltip works correctly. Thanks! Joeartguy (talk) 21:00, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure what's wrong with it. Pcj is the guy'd want to talk with about this. --g0urra[T҂C] 21:06, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
And it's surreptitiously begun working again, apparently, as you can see in this very section... so hurrah and never mind. Joeartguy (talk) 21:41, September 2, 2010 (UTC)


Here's the full list of wanted categories, which probably contains many more errors. --Elassint 19:12, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

hey u there

i need help im on the lich game part and it just looks like a screen saver wat do i do —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dmuffick (talk · contr).

You are probably on the login screen. Have you typed in your account information to log in to the game? --g0urra[T҂C] 16:08, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
ya its just a blank screen exept for the dragona and like a city i cant do anything —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dmuffick (talk · contr).
Login screen Wrath of the Lich King
Does your login screen not look like this? (see the image to the right) --g0urra[T҂C] 16:14, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
ya its just the picture tho no boxes —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dmuffick (talk · contr).
Click the "Edit" link at this section to reply to this easier. Where did you get the game client? --g0urra[T҂C] 16:23, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

wow.com --—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dmuffick (talk · contr).

Stop feeding the troll Görra. --User:ShandrisForever 09:44, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

New wowwiki layout

Has the layout for Wowwiki changed or am I going crazy? --User:ShandrisForever 15:05, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Probably just you ;) They are making some tweaks for the oncoming new version of the Wiki skins though, so things may move around a little. -=- IconSmall DrakeAzure Drazisil [t/c] 15:16, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
It has changed for those who use Monobook. Apparently all skins default to Monaco right now. Let's hope it's just a hiccup. --g0urra[T҂C] 15:30, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
I hope so, I feel so lost with this skin, can't even find my Watchlist!
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 08:13, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

"The" Deadmines

In light of the request on the to-do page to move all of the pages that were in Category:Deadmines to Category:The Deadmines, do you think the actual pages for Deadmines and Deadmines (original) should be moved/renamed to follow this standard?  gilmoreja—You've got to start what you finish—Talk!on!—You've got to start what you finish—Sareine talks—You've got to start what you finish— 16:10, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

No, articles will not use "The" as first. For example see Barrens and Category:The Barrens quests. --g0urra[T҂C] 16:20, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Template:USERNAME

I was wondering what javascript you've got running (and where it is located) that allows the Template:USERNAME to work properly? HooperBandP (talk) 18:59, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

It's in MediaWiki:Common.js: if (wgUserName != null) $("span.insertusername").html(wgUserName); --g0urra[T҂C] 19:16, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Frost Strike

Hi, with 4.0.1 about to go live, Frost Strike will become an innate benefit of choosing the Frost tree. You're a little bit late at adding it to Category:Death knight talents. Removed; please understand. :P Sarvam (talk) 07:24, October 12, 2010 (UTC)

It's still talented since you need to choose a talent to get it. Having an ability only in its class' ability category would imply that it's not talented. --g0urra[T҂C] 07:39, October 12, 2010 (UTC)

Fishy User

I recently undid a change on the Server: Kil'jaeden US page... Someone uploaded and posted an inappropriate picture there, and I thought you would be best to deal with it... Also, for future reference, what should I do when I notice something like that, other than jumping on the nearest admin's talk page who may or may not be online? Tanooki1432 (talk) 21:58, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

I deleted the offending image. If you see any more vandalism, you could join the #wowpedia IRC channel and alert any admins about it. --g0urra[T҂C] 22:02, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Vanguard of Valor

I created the page today, and you changed the title, which is of course fine! But if I now do a search for 'Vanguard of Valor', I get no results, which is kind of counter productive for the page's validity. Is there any sort of solution or will people have to actually search for guild;vanguard of valor? Saranini (talk) 10:09, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

There's a guild search on the Guild article. The default search does not include the guild namespace. --g0urra[T҂C] 10:35, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Well that's a shame, it was possible on wowwiki, but I won't pretend to know enough of this sort of thing to claim it should be possible here. Only that it detracts from the usefulness of even having a guild page featured here if looking for it will be so counter intuitive. People generally know what a guild is so I doubt many actually have the reflex of first looking up what a guild is before looking up an actual existing one. Just adding this so maybe in future you guys would consider changing that, but it is what it is and I'll live with it. Saranini (talk) 10:44, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

If it was possible on the WoWWiki search then this must be a bug. I'll look into it. --g0urra[T҂C] 10:48, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
Not necessarily a bug, not necessarily working by design. I think it's just a config tweak, but I don't really know if we want to make it. --Sky (talk) 12:45, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Bags and Cataclysm

"In Cataclysm, bags that you loot and are non-BoP will be automatically equipped instead of taking up an bag slot."

I read this on an article (that you modified, to add this) and was wondering if any of the following applied:

1: You meant Non Binding
2: You meant "If you don't have 4 bags already"
3: "If its better than a current one"
4: It is BOP

You must agree, that if something is BOE and you loot it, and equip it, you automatically bind it to your character, making it impossible to give BOE items to alts, and essentially, making BOE into BOP. (Listing a source might be good too, if you don't know the answer yourself) Sraw (talk) 05:55, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

It seems like I was unclear. It works like this:
  1. If you have a bag slot (not inventory slot) free and loot a non-BoP bag, you will automatically equip it
  2. If it's a BoP bag you'll still get a dialogue but automatically equip it after agreeing to pick it up
  3. If you have no bag slots left, the bag will be in your inventory
  4. You'll still be able to un-equip the non-BoP bag by dragging it from your bag row.
I hope that cleared it up. --g0urra[T҂C] 06:14, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Still confused, because apparently if its BOE, you will bind it to you if you have a free bag slot open. Thanks for the other clarification though Sraw (talk) 06:38, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Well, the likely hood that you would encounter a BoE bag before filling up all your bag slots is rather low... they don't start binding until what? 18 slots? a few 16 slotters? SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 07:03, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
My friends and I specalize in getting 16 slotters out to all the nooblets, (Inv misc bag 23 netherweave [Netherweave Bag]), and if it didn't care if you had all 4 or not, then that would severely gimp all BOE. Since most high level people will have all 4 slots filled, it wont matter for them, but I don't like the idea of a BOE bag becoming bound when you acquire it, without letting you have a chance to sell it or give it to another character. For instance (even though I doubt this would occur for me), if you were a tailor who strenuously leveled up to 350 tailoring, made some Netherweave bags specifically to sell, even though you don't have all 4 bag slots filled... would it force them to be bound to you? Sraw (talk) 07:36, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Non-BoP does not mean BoE. Non-BoP also includes bags that won't bind to you, such as Inv misc bag 09 blue [Small Blue Pouch]. Note that it also says loot, not obtain or get, which are two different things. --g0urra[T҂C] 07:45, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Non-BoP means specifically that it isn't BoP, but it could be BoE or nonbinding. Automatically equipping nonbinding bags is all well and good, because you can simply unequip it and pass it along. The distinction on loot and obtain though, that changes everything. I guess I didn't know that the particular wording on that was that important, as it appeared to me to be an interpretation rather then a quotation. Thank you for clarification. Sraw (talk) 08:37, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Character Table Box

Hi - just wanted to say thanks for having the Character Table Box on your page which I shamelessly stole (giving you kudos of course). Let me know if you wanted a bigger credit, though. --Aldor Celuur (Talk page | Contribs) 04:44, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

No problem, I'm glad you like it. --g0urra[T҂C] 12:03, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

nowrap

Without span formatting such as template:nowrap there are window sizes where the gold piece symbol is line-wrapped to below the 5000. using the CSS in the template prevents this.

So, instead of sometimes seeing: 5000g you always see: 5000g

I.E., even on a narrow screen, the second 5000g will never wrap in-between the number and the symbol. I would further argue that the cost template should have said css added to it. —MJBurrage(TC) 00:17, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

I resized my browser window to check when this would be the case, and the lowest resolution where it wouldn't break was at about 900 pixels wide. I don't think that many users browse articles with that small resolution. --g0urra[T҂C] 00:22, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
I noticed it, since I often use my widescreen monitor with two windows open, each using half the screen. Regardless of the effect on tables, the same thing happens in paragraphs even at much higher widths; without nowrap, the number can be at the end of one line, while the symbol is at the beginning of the next line.
The best solution with respect to the cost template (and related templates) would be to add "white-space:nowrap;" to the css in the template (which I can't do for the cost template)
Regardless there are other times when nowrap can be handy, such as infoboxes or other situations where split-information might be confusing.
MJBurrage(TC) 02:41, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Your table format attributed accordingly *grins* (no actual user pages were harmed during this shameless rifling through the code). Sorry for locking you out whilst I looked up profiles and such... Tequima (talk) 15:12, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

(playable) v. (lore)

Hi there.


Recently I changed the naming convention on the two Worgen articles to make the default one relate to the playable faction, with the other being Worgen (lore). I asked about doing this on IRC (approx. half way down the page), met no objections, at least one person was in favour of it. Personally I'm a big fan of lore - I'm not biased against it - but I do expect more people to be interested in the article on the playable faction than reading up about the lore behind them as a species (or sub-species, whatever).


I wanted to leave it like that for a few days to see if I'd be met strong opposition on-wiki (as previously stated, I met none at all on IRC) and if that wasn't the case I was going to request community input on the same being done universally so that Worgen wouldn't be the exception. Having tried to get input before the move(s) - you may notice I was given assistance by an Administrator, and not the same one who encouraged me on IRC, either - I decided to give it a shot. It lasted all of twenty minutes before I was reverted wholesale by you.


While I've lurked on Wowpedia / WoWWiki for forever and a day, I'm far from actively contributing, so I'd like to know how I could have improved upon this to perhaps be more successful with future endeavors. Two administrators seemed open to my idea, not a single person disagreed with it, and then you reverted. Why? With an Administrator assisting me and so I can only presume thus at least semi-in favour of the idea, there would have been a consensus for the change at that time. I wouldn't be that disappointed, but you were in the channel at the time I asked for feedback, you didn't comment on it, while Mikk did - providing positive feedback. Hell, you were actively talking in the channel!


The way I read it there's two people (myself and Mikk) in favour of the idea, with Foxlit probably supporting it, and while you dislike it enough to revert it (without a talk page message or edit summary that I can locate) you didn't seem to dislike it enough to talk to me on IRC. It's nice to have input on ideas you're considering and not quite as nice to be reverted without a single word of advice on what to do differently. Why you would let me go ahead with it only to revert me, which is more work for you as well as me, I cannot fathom.


For the life of me I can't see what I did wrong. Before I began I got a consensus - a majority in favor if you dislike my idea (you've yet to say so) - and my efforts weren't seen worthy of a single edit summary or a courtesy message on my talk page? I understand there are uninformed edits that need to be corrected but it never hurts to have the courtesy to at least talk to the people who are editing in good faith. That you simply protected the page against future moves by non-Admins in the future - also without a reason attached - rubbed salt in the wound. I won't start an edit war about it but I'm quite tempted to ask for feedback - again - this time on-Wiki and seek to have your revisions undone.


I'll try one last time to get your input on this before considering if I raise another discussion on it or not, though I do wonder if you'll bother to talk to me this time. A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 21:55, 11 November 2010 (UTC)