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::::In fact, taking into consideration your point about the RPG, it might not even be a bad idea to consider MERGING the whelp articles instead of creating new ones. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 21:21, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 
::::In fact, taking into consideration your point about the RPG, it might not even be a bad idea to consider MERGING the whelp articles instead of creating new ones. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 21:21, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
   
:So we should merge all the articles of that type into one(all whelp types into the whelp article, all drakes into drake article and all dragonspawn in the dragonspawn article, etc...)? note that the RPG information still need to be there, the types, notable, companions, mounts and transforming items.
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:So we should merge all the articles of that type into one(all whelp types into the whelp article, all drakes into drake article and all dragonspawn in the dragonspawn article, etc...)? note that the RPG information still need to be there, the types, notable, companions, mounts and transforming items, like the [[Fire hawk]] article.
:In the case of the Nether whelp there's also the Pet.
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:In the case of the Nether whelp there's also the Pet.--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 21:31, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

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Colours

Simplification

With the new templates for the flights i was thinking of removing a few things from this template to make pages a little less bulky. was wondering what everyone thought of removing 'Dragons Of Nightmare' 'Factions' (since both are already in their resppeciv flight's templates) a few noteable members etc....Warthok 07:09, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Dragonflights

Do Proto-Dragons and the Frostbrood really count as their own dragonflights? I haven't seen any reference to that being the case (and I know we had this discussion earlier about a theoretical Undead Dragonflight with the frost wyrms), but by all means feel free to prove me wrong if it says this somewhere. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 09:41, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, I suppose they don't really count as their own flight, but if you ask me, not putting them there implies that they're a part of another flight, and I say they most certainly aren't. Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart (talk) 00:27, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

About the proto-dragons, I mean. Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart (talk) 00:28, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

They aren't members of any flight. Not putting them under flights does not imply they are members of one os the listed flights. But they are still listed in the table under types.Warthok Talk Contribs 02:15, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, I'll settle for that I suppose. Now that I think about it, Dragonflights are like...dragons that were enchanted by the Titans. If the name is anything to go by, proto-dragons aren't really part of any because they aren't enchanted. Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart (talk) 20:17, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Hey, just a lil taste of info further enforcing that proto-dragons are the first dragons, but there are proto-drake mounts for each major Dragonflight color. Bronze = Ability mount drake proto [Reins of the Time-Lost Proto-Drake] (even has the word "time" in it!), Blue = Ability mount drake proto [Reins of the Blue Proto-Drake], Red = Ability mount drake proto [Reins of the Red Proto-Drake], Black = Black Proto-Drake, and Green = Ability mount drake proto [Reins of the Green Proto-Drake]. Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart (talk) 20:27, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

And Violet. Yes the colors exist, i see it as hinting as to how the five colored flights the titans bless originiated from. But i've looked everywhere, quest text, blizzcon transcripts, etc...and i've never heard the word dragonflight or flight assosiated with the proto dragons. A flight is more than just a type of dragon. Think Undead dragonflight.Warthok Talk Contribs 22:03, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Just found a little thing I'm a little curious about on my DK...

Penumbrius at the Argent Vanguard calls the proto-drakes there "kin - blood from ages past." He could just be referring to the fact that they're dragons, but the "blood" remark kind of strikes me as him aiming at something else. Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart (talk) 01:40, 7 April 2009 (UTC)


Dragonkin Character template

Since i updated the Creature template to have more complete information on Dragonkins half of this template is obsolete, so i suggest removing that information and turning this into a dragonkin characters pages, what do you think? --Ashbear160 (talk) 14:59, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
I'm trying to turn this into a footer template


Completed--Ashbear160 (talk) 22:47, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Dragonflight footers

Review:

Ashbear, what is the point of extending out the individual flight footers like that? And did you even think about what you were doing, or did you just jump on it without really examining what you were linking to? Drake redirects to Dragon in almost all cases, and there are no flight-specific pages for dragonspawn or drakonid, resulting in several footers with redundant links. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 19:17, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Actually i didn't originally added most of these, i only added a list of types of dragonkin that appear in that dragonflight, because they are not universal(dragonspawn don't appear on nether df but drakonid do), it's to show which types of dragonkin appear in that dragonflight.--Ashbear160 (talk) 19:27, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
However i agree with you and i'll try to fix all bad links soon.--Ashbear160 (talk) 19:36, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
Add in the following links that you think are bad.--Ashbear160 (talk) 19:43, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
It's probably best if i create new creature articles all together than make mob articles, i'll do a quick study and see what i can do.--Ashbear160 (talk) 19:55, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
Actually we have to review all Links, most contain only RPG information, and the fact that i can't see he shared model option in wowhead doesn't help...--Ashbear160 (talk) 20:17, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
The problem with making pages for all of them is that there's really no point. There's very little you can say about, say, green dragonspawn that doesn't also apply to dragonspawn as a whole. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 21:07, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
Some already exist as you can see above, i just started with whelps, i'm trying to make it similar to the Fire Hawk, i've asked coobra for help because i can't find the "same model as" tool/button in wowhead which would be really helpful for this.--Ashbear160 (talk) 21:12, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
Also a lot of information is from RPG which we need to separate from the wow info, in some cases add wow info that the article never had.--Ashbear160 (talk) 21:14, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
That's because there are several mobs and companion pets for most of the whelps. That's not the case with, say, infinite whelps, where there's exactly ONE mob in the entire game. Why make a completely separate page for them that says nothing more than "this thing exists"? And the dragonspawn and drakonids may as well all be the same creature for all the differences between the flights.
In fact, taking into consideration your point about the RPG, it might not even be a bad idea to consider MERGING the whelp articles instead of creating new ones. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 21:21, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
So we should merge all the articles of that type into one(all whelp types into the whelp article, all drakes into drake article and all dragonspawn in the dragonspawn article, etc...)? note that the RPG information still need to be there, the types, notable, companions, mounts and transforming items, like the Fire hawk article.
In the case of the Nether whelp there's also the Pet.--Ashbear160 (talk) 21:31, 14 July 2011 (UTC)