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| + | :* [[User talk:Dark_T_Zeratul/Archive01]] (June 2nd, 2007 - January 8th, 2010) |
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| + | :* [[User talk:Dark_T_Zeratul/Archive02]] (January 13th, 2010 - August 31st, 2010) |
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| + | == Defiler's Plate, et al == |
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| − | | name = Mannoroth the Destructor |
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| − | | titles = <!--King, General, The Flayer, The Destructor, The Living Vessel of Destruction and Rage, The Burning Legion Engine of Destruction--> |
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| − | | gender = Male |
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| − | | races = [[Pit Lord]], [[Annihilan]] |
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| − | | affiliation = [[Burning Legion]] |
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| − | | faction = Neutral |
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| − | | occupation = Demon King of the Pit Lords, General of the Legion |
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| − | | status = Deceased; slain by [[Grom Hellscream]] |
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| − | | location = [[Orgrimmar]] (Remains) |
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| − | }} |
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| + | Had not noticed that those were limited to warriors and paladins. Thought they were unkeyed. Good catch. --[[User:Eirik Ratcatcher|Eirik Ratcatcher]] ([[User talk:Eirik Ratcatcher|talk]]) 22:21, September 1, 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | '''Mannoroth''' was a [[pit lord]] whose ruthlessness and vile cunning made him into one of the favoured lieutenants of his masters, [[Archimonde]] and [[Kil'jaeden]], the champions of the [[Burning Legion]]. Known as "the Destructor" and "the Flayer", Mannoroth was the barbaric leader of the pit lords when the dark titan [[Sargeras]] subjugated them and bent them to his will. When Archimonde was placed in command of the pit lords, he recognized Mannoroth's value as a brutal, bloodthirsty fighter and made the pit lord his second-in-command. Mannoroth helped lead the Burning Legion in assaults on countless worlds, and led the first invasion of [[Azeroth (world)|Azeroth]]. |
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| + | :.. though interesting you did not add the [[Highlander's Plate Girdle (level 40)]] to categories similarly. --[[User:Eirik Ratcatcher|Eirik Ratcatcher]] ([[User talk:Eirik Ratcatcher|talk]]) 22:22, September 1, 2010 (UTC) |
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| + | ::Only the highest-level versions are set pieces. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul#top|talk]]) 22:23, September 1, 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | == |
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| − | === War of the Ancients === |
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| − | Mannoroth was among the demons who ventured into [[Kalimdor]] during the [[War of the Ancients]]. |
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| + | In cases like [[Yellow Qiraji Resonating Crystal]] then, where you changed it, how would I know? -=- <span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 1em;">[[Image:IconSmall_DrakeAzure.gif]] [[User:Drazisil|Drazisil]] [<sup>[[User talk:Drazisil|t]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Drazisil|c]]</sub>]</span> 21:32, September 9, 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | He singlehandedly slaughtered entire regiments of Kaldorei defenders and sowed chaos by unleashing squads of doomguards across the land.<ref name="S&L61">''[[Shadows & Light]]'', pg. 61</ref> Though he battled with brutal ferocity and slaughtered many, he was defeated by [[Cenarius]] and his followers and sent back into the [[Twisting Nether]] when the [[Well of Eternity]] was destroyed. |
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| + | :Careful analyzation of the patch notes. In this case, the Yellow Qiraji Resonating Crystal drops in the Temple of Ahn'Qiraj, which was added in patch 1.9. Therefore, all creatures and items within the instance were also added in patch 1.9. Ultimately, if you're not sure, leave it blank; I'll get to it eventually. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul#top|talk]]) 21:37, September 9, 2010 (UTC) |
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| + | ::1.11 being Original Naxx, I'm guessing you're probably right. Doesn't mean that things never get added to an instance after the fact, though. --[[User:Eirik Ratcatcher|Eirik Ratcatcher]] ([[User talk:Eirik Ratcatcher|talk]]) 22:00, September 9, 2010 (UTC) |
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| + | :::True, but those are typically special cases. Ultimately, if you're using Wowhead for patch dates and it says 1.11, you need to verify whether or not it was actually added in patch 1.11. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul#top|talk]]) 22:02, September 9, 2010 (UTC) |
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| + | On a separate patch issue, I've backfilled at least one case where "the last known patch reference" states something that no longer obtains. I can't say WHEN the change happened, but I can unequivocally state that "t has since been changed". --[[User:Eirik Ratcatcher|Eirik Ratcatcher]] ([[User talk:Eirik Ratcatcher|talk]]) 18:25, September 10, 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | Although his forces were ultimately defeated and forced to flee from Azeroth, Mannoroth was pleased with the level of carnage that he had inflicted.<ref name="S&L61"/> |
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| + | :That's probably because I'm working forward through the patches, so the newer changes aren't listed yet. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul#top|talk]]) 02:57, September 14, 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | + | == Quest pages, in the future == |
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| − | In preparation for the Burning Legion's second invasion of Azeroth, Kil'jaeden dispatched Mannoroth to Draenor. Describing him to Gul'dan, [[Kil'jaeden]] mentioned that "Mannoroth is known for many things. Patience is not among them."<ref>''[[Rise of the Horde]]'', pg. 297</ref> There, twelve clan chieftains of the orc Horde drank from Mannoroth's blood and fell prey to the curse of bloodlust. Their corruption quickly spread to the rest of the Horde and ultimately led to their ill-fated assault on the human kingdoms on Azeroth.<ref name="S&L61"/> |
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| + | Can you put the patch changes above the progression? Thanks. --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]]) 20:35, September 14, 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | Mannoroth made his mark upon the orcs in [[Draenor]]. Many years before the [[Dark Portal]] was first formed, Mannoroth, under orders from Kil'jaeden, took part in the plan to put the orcs under the thumb of the Burning Legion. Though he would later say that the orcs were his "by right", it was likely just plain arrogance of his blood pact with the orcs. His own master, Kil'jaeden, could claim rule over the orcs since it was he who discovered them. They would serve as harbingers of chaos, wiping out any potential resistance when the Legion arrived on a world. With the help of [[Gul'dan]], the [[Blood of Mannoroth]] was drunk by the chieftains of the clans, with the exception of [[Durotan]] of the [[Frostwolf Clan|Frostwolf]]. They were engulfed by a demonic bloodlust that wiped out the [[draenei]] and damned the orcs forever. |
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| + | == Whats Up == |
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| − | However, after the Dark Portal was opened and the [[orc]]s engaged the humans over the course of two wars, they were unexpectedly defeated and routed by the humans. The orcs, and in turn, Mannoroth, had failed. Mannoroth, painfully aware of this fact, made plans to have his vengeance. |
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| + | hey dude whats up? i see you update lots of stuff here today. {{unsigned|4odd9even}} |
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| + | :Um... OK? -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul#top|talk]]) 01:28, September 15, 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | + | == Alchemy 'stuff' == |
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| − | [[File:Mannoroth.jpg|thumb|Mannaroth in a Warcraft III cinematic.]] |
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| + | I just realized now that I missed adding the patch & hotfix sections to everything I've done tonight.. TY TY for going back and editing them in. [[User:Resa1983|Resa1983]] ([[User talk:Resa1983|talk]]) 03:02, September 18, 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | [[Kil'jaeden]], however, ignored Mannoroth's desires for vengeance, and crafted a new pawn: the [[Lich King]] and his [[undead]] [[Scourge]]. This Scourge would succeed where the orcs had failed. |
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| + | == *Cough* == |
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| − | Finally, Archimonde was summoned by the [[lich]], [[Kel'Thuzad]], into the world of [[Azeroth (world)|Azeroth]]. Mannoroth, eager to finally have his revenge on the night elves and the orcs, followed his master. |
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| + | [[Living Monstrosity]]. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 03:30, September 22, 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | The [[dreadlord]], [[Tichondrius]], gloated openly that the Scourge (whom he regarded as his in the same way Mannoroth felt about the orcs) had succeeded where the orcs had failed. This only enraged Mannoroth further, and he was infuriated to discover that the orcs had left. Mannoroth and Tichondrius, in pursuit, followed [[Thrall]] and the [[Horde]] across the sea to Kalimdor. Archimonde reminded Mannoroth, though, that the orcs could still be a useful tool to them. |
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| + | :Oh. I think I completely missed the (original) disambig tag. Still, I didn't think we were splitting the Naxx mobs since they have the same ID and everything. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul#top|talk]]) 03:33, September 22, 2010 (UTC) |
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| + | ::Yea, I thought about just updating.. but then decided, maybe people want to see past info, so I just moved it and created a new one. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 03:35, September 22, 2010 (UTC) |
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| + | :::Nothing changed except its health and level, though. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul#top|talk]]) 03:36, September 22, 2010 (UTC) |
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| + | == Zepelin == |
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| − | Upon arriving in Kalimdor, Mannoroth sensed the presence of Cenarius, and he worried that the [[demigod]] could prove to be a chink in their plans. Tichondrius suggested that perhaps the orcs could be used to destroy Cenarius, for the orc who Mannoroth once corrupted years ago on Draenor, [[Grom Hellscream]], was here, and had incurred the wrath of the demigod. |
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| + | Why did oyu reverted my changes at [[Zeppelin]] page? Ogrim's hammer is perfectly known, it can not be any other zeppelin.... {{unsigned|Rawen666}} |
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| − | At Tichondrious' suggestion, Mannoroth spilled his [[Blood of Mannoroth|blood]] into a fountain of life, defiling it in hopes the orcs would find it and drink it. Hellscream's [[witch doctor]]s, sensing the power, initially led him to the fountain, but quickly realized it was cursed, and implored Hellscream not to meddle with it. Grom ignored them and corrupted his clan by drinking its waters. Infused with the powers of the Legion, Cenarius was no match for the bloodlust filled [[Warsong]] Clan. |
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| + | :I didn't revert it, it was reverted back to the last version which was edited by me. But to answer your question, it's referring to the Alliance version in which Varok Saurfang does not arrive via the Orgrim's Hammer (which was recently shot down) but via an unnamed zeppelin. What's more, the Orgrim's Hammer is not a zeppelin but a [[gunship]]. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul#top|talk]]) 04:51, October 11, 2010 (UTC) |
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| + | :Allies ruin everything -.-" {{unsigned|Rawen666}} |
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| − | With the demigod dead, Mannoroth appeared and took full control of Hellscream as the true invasion, the ''Legion's'' invasion, of Kalimdor began. Realizing that the remaining orcs were still a formidable force under the leadership of Thrall, Mannoroth formed a new plan to take him out. |
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| + | == Ironforge Airfield == |
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| − | Thrall found his former friend Grom had fallen under the sway of the legion and vowed to save him. With the help of [[Jaina Proudmoore]] and her expedition, the orc-[[human]] alliance successfully defeated Hellscream's corrupted clan, captured Hellscream, and purged him of his madness. The taint however, was still within him. |
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| + | Haven't checked that part of the world yet, but does it actually say "Ironforge Airfield" now when flying over it in 4.0.1 live? If not, it should be changed to 4.0.3. - [[User:Sikon|Sikon]] ([[User talk:Sikon|talk]]) 04:45, October 15, 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | === Mannoroth's defeat === |
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| + | :I don't know, I only changed it because it said 4.0.0, which isn't a real patch number. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul#top|talk]]) 05:00, October 15, 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | [[File:Mannoroth Remains.jpg|thumb|right|The remains of Mannoroth hoisted on a tree outside Grommash Hold in Orgrimmar.]] |
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| − | [[File:Mannoroth-weapons.png|thumb|Mannoroth's two-bladed sword hovering in [[Demon Fall Canyon]], [[Ashenvale]].]] |
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| + | ==Your opinion is desired== |
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| − | After Thrall reclaimed Hellscream, Mannoroth lured them into the craters formed by the falling [[infernal]]s, where he hoped to kill Thrall and re-enslave Hellscream. Thrall confronted the demon lord in battle pouring all his strength and hatred for the demon into one powerful blast with the [[Doomhammer]]. Mannoroth applauded the effort and revealed that it had caused only a slight scarring of his wing. He then tossed the young war chief against a cliffside with a powerful charge, knocking him out cold and leaving only Hellscream. Mannoroth reminded Grom that he owned his body and soul and gloated that the blood curse could never be broken. |
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| + | Hello. |
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| + | I just wanted to solicit your opinion on [[Template talk:Dungeons#Abandon Dungeons to Instancefooter|whether]] {{t|Instancefooter}} [[Template talk:Dungeons#Abandon Dungeons to Instancefooter|should replace]] {{t|Dungeons}}} [[Template talk:Dungeons#Abandon Dungeons to Instancefooter|or not]]. |
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| − | Hellscream then faced the choice between giving into the demon corruption once more or resisting and saving Thrall, and indeed his entire race. Refusing to accept that the orcs were cursed forever, he chose his kin. In a heroic last stand Grom slipped past Mannoroth's defenses and sliced open his chest. |
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| + | Thanks. |
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| − | Mannoroth was thus slain by his greatest creation and most favored pupil, Grom Hellscream — a fitting irony, some might say.<ref name="S&L62">''[[Shadows & Light]]'', pg. 62</ref> The demonic fires erupted outward, destroying the astonished Mannoroth and mortally wounding Hellscream. |
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| + | {{User:A'noob/sig}} 06:38, 13 November 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | With the death of Mannoroth the blood curse on the orcs was finally lifted. After his defeat, [[The Armor of Mannoroth|Mannoroth's horned skull and armor]] were spirited to [[Orgrimmar]] and were attached to a large, irregularly shaped tree (possibly shaped or newly grown by [[tauren]] [[druids]] to accommodate the trophies). However the large double-headed sword used by the mighty pit lord remains in [[Ashenvale]], forever sundered and locked in time to show where the bloodpact was ended. The remains have become a memorial to warn against consorting with [[demon]]s and celebrating the feat of Grommash Hellscream in finally lifting the blood curse. |
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| + | == Dahlia == |
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| − | After the [[Shattering]], Mannoroth's skull was moved above the throne of the new [[Warchief]], [[Garrosh Hellscream]]. The ends of the tusks may have been added to Garrosh's armor. The origin of the skull on Garrosh's shoulder is unknown. |
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| + | Hi, as you have edited the article since my last revision, I would be interested in your input [[Talk:Remnant of Dahlia Suntouch|here]]. Don't meant to bother you, just thought I'd inform you the discussion has not yet ended as you appear interested in the story of that NPC. |
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| − | == Personality == |
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| − | Mannoroth was a simple being with no overriding ambition to change his station in life. Craving blood and carnage over everything else, he willingly acted as an enforcer for Archimonde and the Burning Legion. His only desire was to wage unending war against the mortal races of the universe. He was a terribly efficient weapon of destruction for the demonlords and could always be found at the forefront of their invasion forces. Mannoroth had forever been cursed with an immeasurable, unending thirst for blood. Even the bloodlust of the orcs was a minor compulsion compared to the absolute addiction that bloodletting was for Mannoroth. In the absence of mortals to fight, Mannoroth often turned on his own demon kin, slaying felhounds and infernals with an unnerving sense of satisfaction. He preferred the kill to the chase, and would quickly slay mortals who were unfortunate enough to stumble upon him. Mannoroth sought out the most concentrated area of foes and wades into battle. He was not happy unless he was spilling the entrails of his enemies at his feet. When a victim fell, he usually spent an extra attack or two on the victim making sure the target was quite dead. This could be quite messy, which was exactly how Mannoroth liked it. In fact, he could get a bit reckless if foes were not dropping to his massive two-bladed sword at least every attack.<ref>''[[Shadows & Light]]'', 61-62</ref> |
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| + | Cheers! [[File:A_F_K_sig_2.jpg|50px|link=User:A_F_K_When_Needed]] [[User:A_F_K_When_Needed|A F K]] [[User_talk:A_F_K_When_Needed|When]] [[Special:Contributions/A_F_K_When_Needed|Needed]] 21:08, 20 December 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | == Memorable quotes == |
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| + | :I don't really see how you can say that. She says in no uncertain terms that Orbaz Bloodbane killed her, so there's no reason the article should say otherwise. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul#top|talk]]) 21:12, 20 December 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | *(Speaking with [[Tichondrius]]) ''I am aware of the orcs' failure, dreadlord, and when I find them I will discipline them myself!'' |
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| − | *(As [[Thrall]] and [[Grom Hellscream]] enter the fissure) ''So predictable... I knew you would come... and I see you brought the mighty Hellscream... his blood, is mine...'' (Thrall and Grom turn, to be confronted by Mannoroth) ''As is your whole... misbegotten race!'' |
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| − | *(After blocking an attack from Thrall) ''A worthy effort... but futile.'' |
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| − | *(To Grom Hellscream) ''The boy believed you could be saved... But he didn't know, what burns within your soul... when in your heart, you know, we are the same!'' |
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| − | File:Mannarothbattle.JPG|Mannoroth faces Thrall and Grom. |
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| − | File:Mannorath6.jpg|Mannoroth as seen in Warcraft III. |
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| − | File:Mannoroth face.jpg |
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| − | File:Magtheridon bc.jpg|The Mannoroth model used in the Warcraft III cinematics. |
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| − | File:Armor Mannoroth.jpg|The plaque commemorating Mannoroth's defeat. |
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| − | File:Mannoroth WoW.jpg|Mannoroth as seen in a vision in Nagrand. |
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| − | </gallery> |
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| + | Next time if you remove screenshots from article please mark it for speedy deletion. Also you could've done all this changes in one edit, not 10... thanks in advance [[User:Encaitar|Encaitar]] ([[User talk:Encaitar|talk]]) 13:03, 30 December 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | ==Trivia== |
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| + | Oh and sry articles mentioned were [[Coffer of Promise]] and screenshot [[File:Cop3.jpg|center|thumb|60px]] |
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| − | Mannoroth has a beard in his Warcraft III portrait, and some official art, but clearly no beard is seen in the cinematic model used in the scene of his death. |
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| − | {{Succession|Unknown|'''Leader of the [[Burning Legion]]'s ground forces'''|[[Azgalor]]}} |
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| − | {{Burning Legion}} |
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| + | Hey Zeratul, the [[Alliance-Horde War]] article is constantly changed to include Malfurion as an Alliance commander, while he actually doesn't take part in the conflict similar to [[Lady Liadrin]], [[Hamuul Runetotem]], [[Varok Saurfang]] or even [[Thrall]] who are not listed. Could you please visit [[Talk:Alliance–Horde War#Malfurion is not an Alliance commander|Talk:Alliance–Horde War]] and discuss. I really think he doesn't fit there, as he is more neutral as leader of Cenarion Circle (just like the 4 Horde commanders who simply do not take part in the war eventhough they're in the Horde). Thanks in advance {{User:Encaitar/Signature}} 20:37, 16 January 2011 (UTC) |
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| + | == Omgdruid== |
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| − | [[fr:Mannoroth le Destructeur]] |
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| + | Have i guessed you're nickname on wow forums?--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 03:11, 26 January 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | [[ru:Маннорот]] |
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| + | :Given that I said it in the Forum about the new CDev thread, I'd expected my answer to be yes. Surprisingly, it's not. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul#top|talk]]) 06:39, 26 January 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | [[Category:Deceased characters]] |
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| + | ::lol k--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 14:07, 26 January 2011 (UTC) |
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| + | == Molten Front == |
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| − | [[Category:Burning Legion]] |
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| + | Why are you deleting [[Molten Front]]? It is a zone according to patch notes and Wowhead. [[User:Hallowseve15|Hallowseve15]] ([[User talk:Hallowseve15|talk]]) 00:36, 25 February 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | [[Category:Warcraft: War of the Ancients Trilogy characters]] |
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| + | :It's a zone according to Wowhead, which datamined it from the PTR client. The patch notes say nothing about it. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul#top|talk]]) 00:45, 25 February 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | [[Category:World of Warcraft: Rise of the Horde characters]] |
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| + | == Noob User == |
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| − | [[Category:Mages]] |
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| + | Sorry, I've only just started editing pages here on Wowpedia. Sorry if my editing [[Joren Ironstock]], an inconsequential NPC tucked away in the Coldridge Valley of Dun Morogh was a bother to you, but like I said, I'm new here and was experimenting on expanding stub pages. I have to say however that the new page looks much better than the old page, and again I apologize for using the boilerplate provided by the community for use to spruce pages up to spruce a page up. You are correct, the info was not wrong, but I thought adding the coordinates to the NPCs location, some quotes, and some notes would be nice. So I did. Using the boilerplate. And therefore reorganizing the info. ''Sincerest'' apologies. [[User:Thewalrus|Thewalrus]] ([[User talk:Thewalrus|talk]]) 02:45, 17 March 2011 (UTC) |
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| + | :Well, the boilerplate is primarily there for two things: as an example of how a page should look, and to provide a starting point for a new page. If you're updating an existing one, you can just copy over the individual sections that need to be added; otherwise it makes a bit of a mess of the edit history, and can result in a bunch of extra leftover stuff that just needs to be removed. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul#top|talk]]) 03:33, 17 March 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | [[Category:Shadows & Light]] |
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| + | If you have time, can you confirm with the RaidUI bosses with speculative name? ACidmaw, the Val'kyr, the blood princes, and other? |
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| + | {{User:A'noob/sig}} 21:12, 21 March 2011 (UTC) |
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| + | :I'll check on it when I get a chance, yeah. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul#top|talk]]) 21:25, 21 March 2011 (UTC) |
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| + | ::...Looks like any old lockouts I had for those raids have been wiped in various patches. I'll try and remember to update this if I ever run them again. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul#top|talk]]) 22:33, 21 March 2011 (UTC) |
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| + | :::Huuum, and could it be checked in the game files directly? (to avoid going to all the raid instances) |
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| + | :::{{User:A'noob/sig}} 11:19, 22 March 2011 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 11:19, 22 March 2011
- Previous discussions archived:
- User talk:Dark_T_Zeratul/Archive01 (June 2nd, 2007 - January 8th, 2010)
- User talk:Dark_T_Zeratul/Archive02 (January 13th, 2010 - August 31st, 2010)
Defiler's Plate, et al
Had not noticed that those were limited to warriors and paladins. Thought they were unkeyed. Good catch. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 22:21, September 1, 2010 (UTC)
- .. though interesting you did not add the
[Highlander's Plate Girdle] to categories similarly. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 22:22, September 1, 2010 (UTC)
- Only the highest-level versions are set pieces. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 22:23, September 1, 2010 (UTC)
patch dates
In cases like 
[Yellow Qiraji Resonating Crystal] then, where you changed it, how would I know? -=- 
Drazisil [t/c] 21:32, September 9, 2010 (UTC)
- Careful analyzation of the patch notes. In this case, the Yellow Qiraji Resonating Crystal drops in the Temple of Ahn'Qiraj, which was added in patch 1.9. Therefore, all creatures and items within the instance were also added in patch 1.9. Ultimately, if you're not sure, leave it blank; I'll get to it eventually. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 21:37, September 9, 2010 (UTC)
- 1.11 being Original Naxx, I'm guessing you're probably right. Doesn't mean that things never get added to an instance after the fact, though. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 22:00, September 9, 2010 (UTC)
- True, but those are typically special cases. Ultimately, if you're using Wowhead for patch dates and it says 1.11, you need to verify whether or not it was actually added in patch 1.11. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 22:02, September 9, 2010 (UTC)
- 1.11 being Original Naxx, I'm guessing you're probably right. Doesn't mean that things never get added to an instance after the fact, though. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 22:00, September 9, 2010 (UTC)
On a separate patch issue, I've backfilled at least one case where "the last known patch reference" states something that no longer obtains. I can't say WHEN the change happened, but I can unequivocally state that "t has since been changed". --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 18:25, September 10, 2010 (UTC)
- That's probably because I'm working forward through the patches, so the newer changes aren't listed yet. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 02:57, September 14, 2010 (UTC)
Quest pages, in the future
Can you put the patch changes above the progression? Thanks. --Sky (t · c) 20:35, September 14, 2010 (UTC)
Whats Up
hey dude whats up? i see you update lots of stuff here today. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4odd9even (talk · contr).
- Um... OK? -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 01:28, September 15, 2010 (UTC)
Alchemy 'stuff'
I just realized now that I missed adding the patch & hotfix sections to everything I've done tonight.. TY TY for going back and editing them in. Resa1983 (talk) 03:02, September 18, 2010 (UTC)
*Cough*
Living Monstrosity. 
(Sssss/Slithered) 03:30, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
- Oh. I think I completely missed the (original) disambig tag. Still, I didn't think we were splitting the Naxx mobs since they have the same ID and everything. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 03:33, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
- Yea, I thought about just updating.. but then decided, maybe people want to see past info, so I just moved it and created a new one.
(Sssss/Slithered) 03:35, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
- Nothing changed except its health and level, though. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 03:36, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
- Yea, I thought about just updating.. but then decided, maybe people want to see past info, so I just moved it and created a new one.
Zepelin
Why did oyu reverted my changes at Zeppelin page? Ogrim's hammer is perfectly known, it can not be any other zeppelin.... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rawen666 (talk · contr).
- I didn't revert it, it was reverted back to the last version which was edited by me. But to answer your question, it's referring to the Alliance version in which Varok Saurfang does not arrive via the Orgrim's Hammer (which was recently shot down) but via an unnamed zeppelin. What's more, the Orgrim's Hammer is not a zeppelin but a gunship. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 04:51, October 11, 2010 (UTC)
Ironforge Airfield
Haven't checked that part of the world yet, but does it actually say "Ironforge Airfield" now when flying over it in 4.0.1 live? If not, it should be changed to 4.0.3. - Sikon (talk) 04:45, October 15, 2010 (UTC)
- I don't know, I only changed it because it said 4.0.0, which isn't a real patch number. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 05:00, October 15, 2010 (UTC)
Your opinion is desired
Hello.
I just wanted to solicit your opinion on whether {{Instancefooter}} should replace {{Dungeons}}} or not.
Thanks.
Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 06:38, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
Dahlia
Hi, as you have edited the article since my last revision, I would be interested in your input here. Don't meant to bother you, just thought I'd inform you the discussion has not yet ended as you appear interested in the story of that NPC.
Cheers! 
A F K When Needed 21:08, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
- I don't really see how you can say that. She says in no uncertain terms that Orbaz Bloodbane killed her, so there's no reason the article should say otherwise. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 21:12, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
Removal of Article content
Next time if you remove screenshots from article please mark it for speedy deletion. Also you could've done all this changes in one edit, not 10... thanks in advance Encaitar (talk) 13:03, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
Oh and sry articles mentioned were Coffer of Promise and screenshot
Your opinion is desired
Hey Zeratul, the Alliance-Horde War article is constantly changed to include Malfurion as an Alliance commander, while he actually doesn't take part in the conflict similar to Lady Liadrin, Hamuul Runetotem, Varok Saurfang or even Thrall who are not listed. Could you please visit Talk:Alliance–Horde War and discuss. I really think he doesn't fit there, as he is more neutral as leader of Cenarion Circle (just like the 4 Horde commanders who simply do not take part in the war eventhough they're in the Horde). Thanks in advance 
Encaitar 
20:37, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
Omgdruid
Have i guessed you're nickname on wow forums?--Ashbear160 (talk) 03:11, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- Given that I said it in the Forum about the new CDev thread, I'd expected my answer to be yes. Surprisingly, it's not. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 06:39, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- lol k--Ashbear160 (talk) 14:07, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Molten Front
Why are you deleting Molten Front? It is a zone according to patch notes and Wowhead. Hallowseve15 (talk) 00:36, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
- It's a zone according to Wowhead, which datamined it from the PTR client. The patch notes say nothing about it. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 00:45, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
Noob User
Sorry, I've only just started editing pages here on Wowpedia. Sorry if my editing Joren Ironstock, an inconsequential NPC tucked away in the Coldridge Valley of Dun Morogh was a bother to you, but like I said, I'm new here and was experimenting on expanding stub pages. I have to say however that the new page looks much better than the old page, and again I apologize for using the boilerplate provided by the community for use to spruce pages up to spruce a page up. You are correct, the info was not wrong, but I thought adding the coordinates to the NPCs location, some quotes, and some notes would be nice. So I did. Using the boilerplate. And therefore reorganizing the info. Sincerest apologies. Thewalrus (talk) 02:45, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
- Well, the boilerplate is primarily there for two things: as an example of how a page should look, and to provide a starting point for a new page. If you're updating an existing one, you can just copy over the individual sections that need to be added; otherwise it makes a bit of a mess of the edit history, and can result in a bunch of extra leftover stuff that just needs to be removed. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 03:33, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
Bosses names
If you have time, can you confirm with the RaidUI bosses with speculative name? ACidmaw, the Val'kyr, the blood princes, and other?
Thanks
Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 21:12, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
- I'll check on it when I get a chance, yeah. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 21:25, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
- ...Looks like any old lockouts I had for those raids have been wiped in various patches. I'll try and remember to update this if I ever run them again. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 22:33, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
- Huuum, and could it be checked in the game files directly? (to avoid going to all the raid instances)
- Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 11:19, 22 March 2011 (UTC)