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| rowspan=4 style ="background: #662020; align:center; text-align:center;" | {{socket icon|red}} '''Red'''
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| rowspan=5 style ="background: #662020; align:center; text-align:center;" | {{socket icon|red}} '''Red'''
 
| {{item|icon=|Flashing Dragon's Eye}} <sup>&dagger;</sup> || colspan="2" | +34 Parry <sup>&dagger;</sup>
 
| {{item|icon=|Flashing Dragon's Eye}} <sup>&dagger;</sup> || colspan="2" | +34 Parry <sup>&dagger;</sup>
 
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| {{item|icon=|Flashing Scarlet Ruby}} || colspan="2" | +16 Parry Rating
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| {{item|icon=|Flashing Cardinal Ruby}} || colspan="2" | +20 Parry Rating
 
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|- class="alt"
 
| {{item|icon=|Flashing Scarlet Ruby}} || colspan="2" | +16 Parry Rating
 
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| {{item|icon=|Perfect Flashing Bloodstone}} || colspan="2" | +14 Parry Rating
 
| {{item|icon=|Perfect Flashing Bloodstone}} || colspan="2" | +14 Parry Rating
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| {{item|icon=|Flashing Bloodstone}} || colspan="2" | +12 Parry Rating
 
 
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|- class="alt"
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| {{item|icon=|Flashing Bloodstone}} || colspan="2" | +12 Parry Rating
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| rowspan=3 style ="background: #B55A00; align:center; text-align:center;" | {{socket icon|red}}{{socket icon|yellow}} '''Orange'''
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| rowspan=4 style ="background: #B55A00; align:center; text-align:center;" | {{socket icon|red}}{{socket icon|yellow}} '''Orange'''
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| {{item|icon=|Glimmering Ametrine}} || +10 Parry Rating || +10 Defense Rating
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| {{item|icon=|Glimmering Monarch Topaz}} || +8 Parry Rating || +8 Defense Rating
 
| {{item|icon=|Glimmering Monarch Topaz}} || +8 Parry Rating || +8 Defense Rating
 
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| rowspan=2 style ="background: #662066; align:center; text-align:center;" | {{socket icon|red}}{{socket icon|blue}} '''Purple'''
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| rowspan=3 style ="background: #662066; align:center; text-align:center;" | {{socket icon|red}}{{socket icon|blue}} '''Purple'''
| {{item|icon=|Defender's Twilight Opal}} || +8 Parry Rating || +12 Stamina
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| {{item|icon=|Defender's Dreadstone}} || +10 Parry Rating || +15 Stamina
 
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|- class="alt"
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| {{item|icon=|Defender's Twilight Opal}} || +8 Parry Rating || +12 Stamina
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| {{item|icon=|Defender's Shadow Crystal}} || +6 Parry Rating || +9 Stamina
 
| {{item|icon=|Defender's Shadow Crystal}} || +6 Parry Rating || +9 Stamina
 
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== Notes ==
 
== Notes ==
Before [[Patch 3.2.0]] in particular, parry gems are generally considered inferior to [[dodge gems]] or [[defense gems]] because of the amount of [[avoidance (attack table)|avoidance]] they give when taking into account [[Formula:Melee diminishing returns|diminishing returns]]. This still may be true after the patch is released, but it should be less so.
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Before [[Patch 3.2.0]] in particular, parry gems are generally considered inferior to [[dodge gems]] or [[defense gems]] because of the amount of [[avoidance (attack table)|avoidance]] they give when taking into account [[Melee diminishing returns|diminishing returns]]. This still may be true after the patch is released, but it should be less so.
   
 
Recently, Greg "Ghostcrawler" Street, the Lead Systems Designer posted about this very topic on the forums:
 
Recently, Greg "Ghostcrawler" Street, the Lead Systems Designer posted about this very topic on the forums:
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| date = 2009-07-13 21:28:37
 
| date = 2009-07-13 21:28:37
| body = {{forumQuote|However, as far as the [[dodge]] vs [[parry]], you've got to consider that a lot of people think in absolutes. "Parry is not as good as dodge" turns into "NEVER GEM PARRY BECAUSE IT'S A GARBAGE STAT". I don't think it'll change their perceptions, but that's more of a problem with humanity.}}Oh yes. At some point "Not BiS" became "trash." :)
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| body = {{forumQuote|However, as far as the [[dodge]] vs [[parry]], you've got to consider that a lot of people think in absolutes. "Parry is not as good as dodge" turns into "NEVER GEM PARRY BECAUSE IT'S A GARBAGE STAT". I don't think it'll change their perceptions, but that's more of a problem with humanity.}}Oh yes. At some point "Not [[BiS]]" became "trash." :)
   
 
<p>It's not the end of the world if parry gems rot. But we want to be able to put parry on say rings without those just being [[shard]]ed.</p>
 
<p>It's not the end of the world if parry gems rot. But we want to be able to put parry on say rings without those just being [[shard]]ed.</p>
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== Patch changes ==
 
== Patch changes ==
* {{patched|patch=3.2.0|note=
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* {{Patch 3.2.0|note=
 
** {{item|Dragon's Eye (gem)|Dragon's Eye}} gems stat bonuses increased.
 
** {{item|Dragon's Eye (gem)|Dragon's Eye}} gems stat bonuses increased.
 
** We will be removing the [[prismatic]] quality of the [[jewelcrafter]]-only {{item|Dragon's Eye (gem)|Dragon's Eye}} gems.}}
 
** We will be removing the [[prismatic]] quality of the [[jewelcrafter]]-only {{item|Dragon's Eye (gem)|Dragon's Eye}} gems.}}
   
   
{{gems|Parry}}<noinclude>
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{{gems|Parry}}{{DEFAULTSORT:Parry Gems}}<noinclude>
 
[[Category:World of Warcraft jewelcrafting crafted gem items]]</noinclude>
 
[[Category:World of Warcraft jewelcrafting crafted gem items]]</noinclude>

Revision as of 01:18, 4 July 2010

Parry gems are red gems, orange gems, purple gems, and prismatic gems.

Wrath-Logo-Small Northrend Gems
Color Name Effect(s)
UI-EmptySocket-RedUI-EmptySocket-YellowUI-EmptySocket-Blue Prismatic [Flashing Dragon's Eye] 27 Parry Rating
UI-EmptySocket-Red Red [Flashing Dragon's Eye] +34 Parry
[Flashing Cardinal Ruby] +20 Parry Rating
[Flashing Scarlet Ruby] +16 Parry Rating
[Perfect Flashing Bloodstone] +14 Parry Rating
[Flashing Bloodstone] +12 Parry Rating
UI-EmptySocket-RedUI-EmptySocket-Yellow Orange [Glimmering Ametrine] +10 Parry Rating +10 Defense Rating
[GlimmeringMonarch Topaz] +8 Parry Rating +8 Defense Rating
[Perfect Glimmering Huge Citrine] +7 Parry Rating +7 Defense Rating
[Glimmering Huge Citrine] +6 Parry Rating +6 Defense Rating
UI-EmptySocket-RedUI-EmptySocket-Blue Purple [Defender's Dreadstone] +10 Parry Rating +15 Stamina
[Defender's Twilight Opal] +8 Parry Rating +12 Stamina
[Defender's Shadow Crystal] +6 Parry Rating +9 Stamina

In Patch 3.2.0.

Bc icon Outland gems
Color Name Effect(s)
UI-EmptySocket-Red Red [Flashing Crimson Spinel] +10 Parry Rating
[Flashing Living Ruby] +8 Parry Rating
UI-EmptySocket-RedUI-EmptySocket-Yellow Orange [Glimmering Fire Opal] +5 Parry Rating +4 Defense Rating
[Splendid Fire Opal] +5 Parry Rating +4 Resilience Rating
UI-EmptySocket-RedUI-EmptySocket-Blue Purple [Defender's Tanzanite] +5 Parry Rating +6 Stamina

Notes

Before Patch 3.2.0 in particular, parry gems are generally considered inferior to dodge gems or defense gems because of the amount of avoidance they give when taking into account diminishing returns. This still may be true after the patch is released, but it should be less so.

Recently, Greg "Ghostcrawler" Street, the Lead Systems Designer posted about this very topic on the forums:

Re: Avoidance Change | 2009-07-13 21:28 | Blizzard Entertainment Ghostcrawler

Q u o t e:

However, as far as the dodge vs parry, you've got to consider that a lot of people think in absolutes. "Parry is not as good as dodge" turns into "NEVER GEM PARRY BECAUSE IT'S A GARBAGE STAT". I don't think it'll change their perceptions, but that's more of a problem with humanity.

Oh yes. At some point "Not BiS" became "trash." :)

It's not the end of the world if parry gems rot. But we want to be able to put parry on say rings without those just being sharded.

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