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Name Edit

As the move thing said, I simply moved it to make it more inclusive, in the off chance that Deathwing eventually takes an active part against both factions. Though it still could use a better name. /shrug --TheUltimate (talk) 01:34, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Just to be clear, the template did say to discuss it first, before moving. I edited the template to be a little more clearer. User:Coobra/Sig4 12:05, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
I know, I didn't notice the template until after. Which was why I moved it back. Deepest apologizes.--TheUltimate (talk) 12:21, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
No worries. User:Coobra/Sig4 12:30, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
Regardless of Deathwing's involvement or not, I still think "Cataclysm War" or "War of the Cataclysm" roll off the tongue more easily, in keeping with prior naming conventions. Somehow it's not enough of a total war to be the "Fourth War". Deepred (talk) 06:56, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

Background Edit

How much detail should the background of the war go into? The war had been brewing from events as early as Vanilla WoW, and a simple "Varian declared war in the Battle for the Undercity" doesn't seem like it goes into enough detail. However, we obviously can't detail everything that led up to war, as that goes as far back as the First War. What sort of limit should be set? -- Fojar(talk) 07:58, July 6, 2010 (EST)

I threw together the scenario leading up to from Vanilla leading up to Cataclysm. (The vanilla BGs, how they were at peace until the Wrathgate), but the Cataclysm portion is still just a blurb. I think it's just going to stay like that until we actually know what happens.--TheUltimate (talk) 12:23, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Possible Reasons why the Alliance was able to expand into Southern BarrensEdit

Lieutenant Alverold Exploratory Fleet could have finished their scouting mission and returned at the same time as a Stormwind reinforcements and supplies fleet came to the barrens and add the forces Tiragarde Keep and with the Horde having only a little presence in the Southern Barrens it probably was not to hard to claim part of the southern Barrens. These are just ideas. Rimor Conscientia (talk) 17:17, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Is King Magni dead? Edit

Is King Magni dead? Thats my question. Rimor Conscientia (talk) 05:18, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

He was turned into a statue, that's about as dead as someone can get. If you want to rationalize it, Blizzard probably needed to kill off an Alliance faction leader to match the death of Cairne.AhotahThunderhorn (talk) 05:25, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
Actually, being turned into a statue seems rather explicitly NOT dead. There are, of course, other complications involved, but unlike Cairne there's the possibility (and a very likely one, I think) that he will eventually get better. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 06:52, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

Will this war also take place in Northrend and Outland? Edit

Will there be fighting in Northrend and Outland? Or quests related to the war? Rimor Conscientia (talk) 17:13, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

As far as I know. This will only be Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms. I may be wrong. Gamerd (talk) 23:56, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
They said at Blizzcon they're not making any changes to Outland or Northrend beyond things like Archeology nodes and other miscellaneous changes due to game mechanic updates. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 07:02, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

Have three years passed in game in World of Warcraft since Wrath of the Lich King? Edit

I was wondering have three years really passed lore wise because I thought the events of World of Warcraft Cataclysm happened like a year after WOTLK in the game world of Azeroth. Because the article says three years have passed since Alliance and Horde forces first arrive on Northrend. Just wondering. Rimor Conscientia (talk) 23:04, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. It's set 10 years after the Battle of Mount Hyjal and 5 years after classic WoW, which means it's set 3 years after the start of Wrath of the Lich King. WoWWiki-Suzaku (talk) 07:37, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Tandred ProudmooreEdit

Is Tandred Proudmoore really a commander for the Alliance forces. Correct me if I am wrong, but he has not appeared in-game, and neither the fleet of Kul Tiras. I the previous statement is right, I think he shouldn't be listed a a commander for the Alliance. Overlord Divine (talk) 17:47, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

Well, Baradin's Warden have the tabard of Kul Tiras, so it's assumed that the Grand Admiral as a hand in some way in the war. Guyomeprime (talk) 22:29, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
Ok. That i didn't know of. So perhaps you are right. Anyway, thanks for making it clear.Overlord Divine (talk) 09:09, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
An earlyish beta pic shows them in Kul Tiras tabards. I'm not sure if it's still the same with the latest build.
I have also reacently red on the Kul Tiras article that Tol Barad was claimed by them after the Second War, so that makes sense for the Baradin Watchers to have the Kul Tiras tabards.Overlord Divine (talk) 15:15, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

Five years?Edit

Why is it stated "Five years after the Battle for Mount Hyjal, the fragile truce between the Horde and Alliance had all but evaporated" in the article, when in the intro video of vanilla WoW it is stated "four years have passed since.."? Guyomeprime (talk) 02:11, October 6, 2010 (UTC)

How did this start? Edit

I'm confused. Where was this mentioned that there was DEFINATELY going to be an all out Alliance VS Horde war? I mean, the signs are everywhere with the increasing conflicts and such, but when was it annouced that there would for sure be a war?

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