Talk: Anveena Teague

Will Anveena make an appearence in BC?--Odolwa 18:36, 15 December 2006 (EST)

Maybe she's in Sunwell Plateau with Kalec? Like how Jorad and Tyri are together at Netherstorm. Whenever that area is opened, maybe they with be there -- Baeldun 18:01 January 2007

Alignment

Despite being allied with the blood elves,I wouldn't say she's actually evil just horribly misguided and manipulated by the blood elves. Angry ogre 20:07, 10 February 2007 (EST)

She's not even in the game yet! And what's been shown of her character thus far does nothing to lend to this conclusion (of being manipulated or misguided). Neither has there been any hint that the blood elves are even manipulating her. The plot for TBC has yet to be revealed and it's too early to make any assumptions. For all we know, they could easily spin the top and reveal the Naaru are evil or something (not likely, nothing has been hinted of it but it could be done if the team felt like it). But Metzen and his team have provided us with wonderful lore for many years so we should be patient and see what's in store for us. mr. peasant 08.32, 11 February 2007 (GMT)

Angry ogre, the contradictions have yet to cease to amaze me. Just thought you ought to know! :)--Sky 03:44, 11 February 2007 (EST)

Bloody hell, you don't half have some odd thoughts, Ogre. Bounding from one conclusion to the next, without stopping for breath. I agree with Sky. I'm continually amazed. (Do you realise that you just implied that anyone allied with the blood elves is evil? So, er, orcs and ogres too, eh?)

So, yes, let's just wait and see, okay? User:Kirkburn/Sig 04:00, 11 February 2007 (EST)

I said despite being allied with the blood elves shes not evil and enough of the plot of TBC has been revealed to realise blood elves are completly evil. One would have to be sick in the head,imprissoned or horribly misguided and manipulated,to stay in a city where slavery and demons runs rampant. Next to the undercity,Silvermoon is the most city in warcraft,its ruled by the dictator Theron,the guards opress citizens,free speech is outlawed,racism is rampant and the guards encourage the player to do evil things. I reckon the blood elves have used magic to manipulate her and fed her lies. Angry ogre 21:35, 11 February 2007 (EST)

You know, I think they were saying the same things about the communists in the 50s. User:Montag/sig 22:36, 11 February 2007 (EST)

Saying that she's 'allied with the blood elves' is extremely misleading. Do you know this to be a fact? Not only that, but she isn't in Silvermoon. Ogre, you are clutching at straws (not even existent straws at that). Apologies if I haven't noticed the demons "running rampant" in Silvermoon. I must be blind.

Btw, note that you are now suggesting that Kalec is either 'evil' or easily fooled. User:Kirkburn/Sig 22:09, 11 February 2007 (EST)

Purely my mistake,and I apologise for that shes in the sunwell Plateau surounded by evil blood elf guards. Aveena is not in a silvermoon but shes still allied with them. What Kalec and Anveena don't know is that blood elves are completly evil and are nothing like the high elves,they'd only use the new sunwell for evil. The dictator Theron probably finds it hilarious that he manipulated a pure and innocent girl and a well meaning dragon into instruments of evil. The demons run free underneath the tailor shop,where they watch over leper gnome slaves. Angry ogre 23:16, 11 February 2007 (EST)

Ah yes, we visit the Assumption Shop again. Do they have a sale on? Do you actually have the tiniest shred of evidence what you're assuming is true? The last book of the trilogy isn't even out yet! User:Kirkburn/Sig 23:39, 11 February 2007 (EST)

Its confirmed that their blood elf goverment is evil. Kalec and anveena would never be allied with angel torturing,slavery using,backstabbin blood elves unless even they were manipulated. They obviously don't know the true evil of the blood elves. The blood elves would definetly find someway to use the sunwell for evil like they do with everything else. Angry ogre 00:44, 12 February 2007 (EST)

Kirkburn goes dancing in the field of angels whilst he waits for Angry ogre to actually respond to the question he asked. How do you know that the stuff you mention has occured? How do you know they're 'allied' with the blood elves? How do you know exactly what's going on with the Sunwell? Why are you so obessed with the word 'evil'? Out of everybody I have ever met on the wiki, you have to be the most biased user I have ever found. It's as if you're following some divine path of vengeance against the blood elves. For your own sake, I suggest you find something else to busy your time with. User:Kirkburn/Sig 03:38, 12 February 2007 (EST

Fact-Blood elves eyes burn green with demonic energy.

Fact-demonic energy burns away the soul. This is told by a night elf researcher who after studying Satyr brains says demonic energy warps the brain

Fact-Theron is a Dictator who has outlawed free speech. This evidenced by the blood elfs protesting against the goverment are mind controlled to say good things about the goverment.

Educated guess-Fel energy made Theron lose his soul

Fact-blood elves have a destiny of evil. This is told by blizzard townhall blood elf page with dark meaning evil.

Fact-Anveena is a good person.

Fact-Anveena is the avatar of the sunwell.

Fact-Aveena and Kalec think they can help the blood elves,this is evidenced in the sunwell manga.

Fact-Kalec is a good dragon,this needs no confirmation.

Fact-Theron is a corrupt ruler and lets unspeakable crimes go in our silvermoon. Like the torturing of M'ruu,slavery of leper gnomes,freedom of speech taken away, and demons in their city

Educated guess-blood elves are beyond help and have lost most of their soul if not all.

Educated guess-Blood elves would find a way to use the sunwell to hurt innocent people.

Fact-Theron watches over Anveena,him being an evil person its probably not for something benovelent..

Fact-Most if not all of blood elf society is evil. This is evidenced by the fact that blood knights and priests are evil,the rogues are evil theives and murderers,the mages and warlocks are magic crazed maniacs. The only real part of their society who doesn't seem completly evil is the hunters.

Fact-Kalec and Anveena would leave the blood elves if they knew what horrors the blood elves are doing.

My view-Blood elves don't deserve the sunwell. Kalec and Anveena are unaware of the true evil of the blood elves and have been manipulated.

Angry ogre 18:18, 12 February 2007 (EST)

Please cite your sources, Angry. I'm not questioning the validity of your statements, but you need sources. User:Montag/sig 18:35, 12 February 2007 (EST)

ok,I said where I got this info. Angry ogre 21:50, 12 February 2007 (EST)

All right. Your sources make sense, and the information you have presented in your words is accurate but biased in your favor. I see two overall problems with what you've presented so far, regardless of how you've worded it: Your conclusions are either exaggerate from the facts you have cited OR your conclusions are not independent to the blood elves. ~

I will go down your list and address each point. First, the former claim that your conclusions are exaggerated. ~

• You mention that the blood elves' eyes burn with demonic energy. This means they have been exposed to demonic energy, but this does not necessarily (I mean, automatically, without fail, or no matter what) lead to moral degradation which we associate with "evil." More on this regarding orc and human warlocks.

• On the night elf researcher: Demonic energy may "warp the brain," but this does not necessarily (I mean, automatically, without fail, or no matter what) mean it destroys the soul, which beings in Warcraft need to live. This also does not necessarily preclude moral degradation. If you can provide the actual quest text, we can analyze this further.

• Because Blizzard has intended the blood elves to be "dark" does not necessarily (I mean, automatically, without fail, or no matter what) mean they are morally deficient, or that this "dark" racial flavor necessarily precludes "evil" behavior.

Secondly, the latter claim that your conclusions are not independent to the blood elves. ~

• Again, regarding demonic energy: Warlocks are prevalent and tolerated in the orcish Horde and in human culture. There is a strong theme in the warlock quest lines of not being consumed by the demonic energy that you wield. It is obviously the intention of Blizzard to demarcate enemy NPC warlocks from player-controlled warlocks. Therefore, it is possible that one may wield demonic energy without becoming corrupt by it. This possibility negates your claim that demonic energy necessarily (I mean, automatically, without fail, or no matter what) precludes corruption, moral degredation, or evil behavior.

• Regarding your claim that most or all of blood elf society is evil: You cite the fact that they have rogues and warlocks. Specifically, you say they are "evil theives and murderers,the mages and warlocks are magic crazed maniacs." Humans also have rogues and warlocks. Night elves, trolls and orcs also have rogues. I am curious why a blood elf rogue is more "murderous" than a human one. There is also a very strong theme in the blood elf quest line in controlling your magic addiction and not succumbing to it. Blizzard does this by presenting the player with the Wretched, who have succumbed to their addiction. It is obvious they intend to demarcate enemy NPC blood elves from player-controlled blood elves. It is therefore possible to have a magic addiction but not to become "magic crazed maniacs," as presented in the quest text. This negates your claim.

• Your claims regarding the censorship of free speech and suggestions of a totalitarian government are valid, and I have witnessed these myself. However, there is the possibility that these are being enacted by Rommath, who is not necessarily in line with the rest of blood elf society. You might notice that blood elves themselves are speaking out against such acts.

I would appreciate if you addressed these points that I have made without simply restating your own, since I have logically disproven or called into question all of them. If you can do that in a well thought out manner, we can have a conclusive discussion about this topic. If you do not, I will move your comments to your user talk page and remove any further unproductive comments from this talk page. User:Montag/sig 22:37, 12 February 2007 (EST)

• Do you honestly think Blood elves can put demonic energy in themselves and get off scott free? Kael and Illidan both giggling souless violent lunatics are living proof that demonic energy always destroys you. Theres no way that blood elves could not end up Kael,they are living the same life he led before he became mad. The eyes just show that they have gone insanely far into demonic energy,too far to be redeemed.

• By dark destiny they mean evil destiny. That means destined to evil

• All warlocks eventually get corrupted by the magik they wield. The fel energy destroys their sanity and soul. Why do you think they are almost outlawed? And basically all rogues are evil and dishonest. At the very least they use dishonarable tactics.

• Rommath is in charge of propaganda not the soldiers. The army is Theron's duty.

• Why the hell are blood knights in the horde anyway. They bring shame to the ancestor's of the horde. If Thrall was smart he would have let the blood elves in after they dismantled the blood knights,their dicatorship and their gnome slavery. The only explanation, I can think of for him letting in Blood knights is that he became corrupt or that he became just stupid. Either way brings great humilation to the horde. To rub salt in the wounds of the horde,Alliance get shamans but horde doesn't actually get paladins only a cheap copy.

Angry ogre 21:20, 13 February 2007 (EST)

Since the majority of your response is based solely on your opinion, and considering Ragestorm's comments on the matter, I will consider this argument closed for futher discussion. (Not to mention that we've veered far from Anveena at this point.) Please do not discuss this any further on this page or others unless you have new evidence (and, if you do, please cite it). User:Montag/sig 23:15, 13 February 2007 (EST)

This is a rather stupid discussion. Why? Anveena isn't even REAL, let alone human. She is simply the Sunwell's Energy transfigured into humanoid form to keep it hidden. Besides, there are two distinct groups of blood elves, the good and the bad. All players eventually become good by allying with either the Scryers or the Aldor, so it doesn't matter. Yes, the Blood Knights are bad, but they are just one faction, and the story will likely evolve to show that. Anveena and Lor'themar will likely become the "good guys" of the blood elf faction, with Kael, his corrupt Magisters, and the Blood Knights being "bad guys". Suzaku 18:26, 19 February 2007 (EST)

What? Blood Knights can fight Kael in Tempest Keep, they aren't following him any longer, the scryers in Shattrath City mention they are trying to bring the truth about Kael to the blood elves so they can see that following Kael would be a horrible mistake, as for the thing about the "dark destiny" bit, keep in mind that "dark" doesn't automatically mean "evil", also note that in many fiction stories there are characters who use "dark" or "shadow" based powers without being evil themselves. Hordesupporter 01:24, 5 April 2007 (EDT)

Ogre, as a guy with a blood elf main, reading your crud, I am getting tired of your attitude. Last I checked Silvermoon wasn't decorated with desecrated corpses of victims, it wasn't resonating with the screams of tortured prisoners, rampant murder wasn't being committed in the streets, if anything, Silvermoon looks more "good" then Darnassus and Stormwind combined. Anyone with any experience of the lore and World of Warcraft as a BE player can blatantly see the split between Azerothian (player) BE's and Outlander BE's. player BE's do EXACTLY what every alliance and horde player does, which is fight against the burning legion and ultimately defeat evil. Never once in my time on my BE main did I ever feel like I was a soulless, irrevocably evil, demonic servant of the burning legion hell bent on committing evil on a grand scale and committing genocide ontop of all sorts of other evils upon the world. Of course being a hunter I guess I am the exception, as you apparently concede. My friends who have BE's don't feel evil, no BE I have ever seen or played with has conducted themselves in an evil manner or otherwise given the impression their character in the world sufgfers anything more then a slight arrogance (and we all know racial arrogance is [i]purely[/i] a BE trait *rolls eyes*).

This is a wild assumption, but perhaps you should buy burning crusade and visit Silvermoon sometime, and I dunno, EDUCATE yourself please. I know this is somewhat of an emotional response, but as a BE player I am speaking on behalf of all BE players when I say we really don't appreciate your god awful attitude towards us and our faction. Of course when those demons do start walking around Silvermoon and it actually noticeably becomes evil, then I'll retract my opinions of yours. Of course, I guess those evil evil lush tree's and white marbled walls are [i]blatantly[/i] evil. Oh and Eversong woods, man that [i]totally[/i] smacks of evil. Your either a troll, or bitter about something, either way, get over it.--Nurizeko

Blood Elves aren't pure evil, go through their quests and see the truth about them, many feel sorrowful and regretful about what has happened, they have to kill beasts that we're once tame and freindly to them which saddens many BEs, they we're also freindly to some treants and although they didn't want to do it they we're forced to kill them, blood elves are really more "good" then "evil". Hordesupporter 19:14, 12 April 2007 (EDT)

• Restoring the sunwell would likely reduce the evil of the blood elves, for a couple of reasons. First, with a large source of magic available again to them, the blood elves would not have ot use demonic magic to satisfy themselves, avoiding that problem. Seconds, being in a constant hunger for magic has probably made the blood elves more irritable, mean spirited, desperate, quick to fight, etc. (Just see anyone who hasn't eaten in awhile, slept in awhile, etc. for a similar effect.) Giving back a source of magic would reduce these qualities in the blood elves, making things like the harassed citizens, Uther's tomb defiling, and other such events less likely. The only issue here is that resotring the sunwell might make the blood elves less effective against the scourge, and they would loose some racial skills with magic that came from not having it, but these problems could probably be overcome.Minionman 01:53, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

• • Ok, this looks like just a pathetic attempt by Angry Ogre to bash on the Blood Elves again, since no one is discussing the old threads about this. To get onto topic, Anveena Teague, based off of what we see in the Sunwell Trilogy, is good. End of Story. Meneldir

Easteregg and Conspiracy ahead?

Moved to Talk:Anveena_Teague/Alignment

Place for updates

I know we have no information as of yet, but when we do, I'd like to know what the instance and the raid happening at the Sunwell Plateau mean for Anveena. And Kalec for that matter. Meneldir

Well if blue dragons have gone evil... Kalec may have as well... Anveena might be corrupted...Baggins 00:43, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

This is obvious,she will either help defeat Kael once and for all or be kidnapped. Zarnks 00:50, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

The Blue dragons haven't gone evil, they're the rigid sort of good that does more damage than evil. --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 02:49, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Ok they have gone insane compared to how they were. Read the blue dragonflight page lore, and see how much they have changed. Before they were living with magic users of the world, cultivating them, teaching them, learning from them, etc. Many were members of the Kirin Tor of Dalaran. Its said they loved arcanists, engineers, anything having to do with science or magic which they are the supposed to be the guardians of.

The blue dragonflight is focused on the pursuit of ever greater power and knowledge. This doesn’t make them completely egocentric; the dragons share what they learn to help others of their kind as well as the world in general. Many blue dragons strive to impress their master, Malygos, with their knowledge of magic, or invent new spells or magic items. Members of the blue dragonflight value other thinkers, including spellcasters, engineers, writers, artists and general academic types. If a mortal shows a blue dragon a spell he has never seen, she earns that dragon’s respect. If she teaches the dragon that spell, she likely gains the dragon’s gratitude for a lifetime — and blues live a very long time. Generally, members of the blue dragonflight consider adventurers in general to be kindred spirits, but they highly favor those who are clever, inventive and powerful.

Generally, the blue dragonflight likes the mortal races, especially those that practice arcane magic, but there are a few exceptions. Most blue dragons dislike goblins, since many goblins serve the black dragonflight, and it was a group of goblins that outfitted Deathwing with the adamantine armor attached to his scales. Also, blue dragons are wary of orcs, due to their role in enslaving the red dragonflight in recent years. Relations between the blue dragonflight and the other dragonflights have dramatically improved since the fall of Deathwing at Grim Batol; many of the other dragons felt that the blues abandoned them after the construction of the World Tree; but now red, bronze and blue dragons guard Nordrassil together once again.Template:Cite

Literally there has been some kind of huge personality shift, since then.Baggins 03:31, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Maybe its the whole Death knight thing? When thier Malygos order somethings,they are not going to disobey. Zarnks 03:52, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

The problem is Malygos got his sanity back at least according to written lore, and apparently he's gone insane again.Baggins 04:01, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I thought he went sane and decided to put all those wizards in their place. Zarnks 04:03, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Some kind of retcon or mix up of wording on the part of the designers, might have taken place... But there were definitely several written sources that said he recovered from his years of sanity, including Lands of Mystery, and Shadows & Light, and maybe end of Day of the Dragon. This could be another case of Metzen forgetting what was said in previous sources. Infact it was part of the history of the blue dragonflight, that because of his return to sanity was the reason why the blue dragons started living, learning and teaching the races of the world, and their love of magic users, and engineers and the like... Read blue dragonflight for the specifics.Baggins 04:21, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Well not everything in the rpg is completly canon Zarnks 04:24, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Incorrect, your assumption is false, Blizzard has stated consitently that the RPG is official, and Metzen is one of the authors, and the design assistance and additional material editor for the entire line. It wasn't just the RPG it was in the novels too. Also, several staff members of WoW have said the series official. The author of The Last Guardian, Jeff Grubb was also one of the authors for the series. It is covered by the kind of meticulous editing process that the game goes through, with Metzen in charge of it all.

In rebuttal to a poster that claimed that Warcraft RPG was not official,

Any piece of literature authorized and licensed by Blizzard Entertainment is in-fact, official. The book series written by Richard A. Knaak in particular is an excellent example of real 'Azerothian' history and lore available outside of our game software. We work closely with authors that help us expand our game universe, and the information should be considered official.

I'm very sorry but your assumptions are not correct. -Eyonix

One of many of Chris Metzen's quotes about the RPG;

We're taking the process of building a world seriously and it wasn't just churned out. It had a strong sense of continuity. We've always tried to do that with are ancillary products like the D&D line and our novels. We are kind of painstakingly anal, about making sure all the details add up, that continuity is held to be sacred. So that no matter in what medium you are experiencing Warcraft it all feels like a contiguous experience."-Chris Metzen

More can be found here Warcraft_RPG#Official Source of Lore. You'd be hard pressed to find one WoW designer deny the rpg, ever.Baggins 04:30, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I didn't see the whole thing was noncanon just some stuff like Thrall killing Mannroth,Maiev dying and some other stuff. Blizzard has contradicted it before. Zarnks 04:32, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

There is a difference between official mistakes through editing and typographical issues. Trying to use spelling errors, editing errors, and the like to denote something as non-official is silly at best, and dishonest at the worst. The Thrall killing Mannoroth was a editing error.

Also, from a few contacts I've discussed with, one of the designers claimed they were told to say that Maiev died, but they tried to make sure it was described as an in-universe belief, as in what night elves believed happened to her, not literally what happened to her, it was a form of flavor lore. Its just another case where Blizzard changed their minds, again... Just a retcon pretty much. Many of the elements of the storyline in WoW are very different than wat was originally told in previous games, because Blizzard decided to change things many times over the years.Baggins 04:39, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Exactly if they don't like a point in the rpg,they can retcon or ignore it. They don't have to follow every word. Zarnks 04:41, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

No, its not anything to do with "retconing" or ignoring the "RPG" in general. What people forget is that much of the stuff in the RPG is actually based on what occured in previous games, or mentioned in WoW itself (combination of material from Horde and Alliance quests of the game). While its true that some stuff in the RPG is stuff the authors make up with Metzen's permission, and other times its stuff they are told to add. However Maeiv's death occurs during one of the missions in Warcraft III. So the material int he RPG was, was based on that version of the story (but Blizzard decided later to change their minds and thought it be cool to bring her back). Alot of characters died in Warcraft III, or earlier games, only be resurrected later because Blizzard thought they'd be useful or cool.

Characters die in the novels only to be resurrected as well. Blizzard does this for the sake of the game, if it'll make things cool. Not because of the source. The designers tend to do things more because they think it'll be cool. Thus why Zul'jin is a raid boss, even if ignores certain aspects of his life as mentioned in previous games and the RPG, and even stuff in WoW itself. You'll notice Blizzard even ignores stuff its said in WoW itself they thought it was cool, like for example the in-game books that discussed the history of the Eredar/Draenei, that have been altered in game to reflect the new history. They don't go out of their way to ignore the RPG because its the RPG, they don't go out of their way to Ignore the events of Warcraft I-III because they are older games. There is mroe to it that that.Baggins 04:49, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Btw, for anyone who doesn't know Warcraft III the mission in which Maiev "dies" is called the "Dusts of Outland", and main mission objective is to kill her and the rest of the guardians of Illidan's cage. Basically the description of her "death" given in the RPG takes material almost word from word from the mission and quest descriptions, and certain things said during the mission.Baggins 04:59, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

This is a fascinating conversation that deserves it's own section elsewhere. I would like to stay on topic please. Meneldir

Baggins, the goal of that mission isn't to kill Maiev. It's to make sure Illidan arrives safely at the blood elf base. To do this, you have to fight off Maiev and her forces and prevent them from reclaiming the cage. When Maiev is killed, she is simply ressurected until you finish the mission. Even once you complete the mission, she is not mentioned for the rest of the campaign. --Austin P 16:53, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Don't make me say it again, this is a discussion best for elsewhere. Meneldir

Austin, you can discuss it on Maevi's page, but actually read the "quest objective" again. It specifically says "slay the guardians", slay of course meaning to "kill". Maeiv happens to be one of four guardians (all of which must die) in order to finish the objective that triggers the next mission objective in the mission. Yes she is resurrected over and over, but she still part of that initial mission objective. You can finish this over on Talk:Maiev Shadowsong. Baggins 04:36, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Dalaran Rumor?

This rumor about Anveena possibly being in Dalaran...where did it start? --Joshmaul 14:25, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

It is rumored that, with the advent of Wrath of the Lich King, Anveena may appear at the neutral city of Dalaran, beside Korialstrasz and the city leader, Archmage Rhonin.

I have removed the above sentence. It needs a source. Kirkburn  talk  contr 16:22, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Unless there's a source, it's speculation, not rumor. --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 18:54, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

How powerful is she?

It is obvious that she is very powerful, being the Sunwell and all. Also, it was said in the article that Dar'Khan managed to get the power from her and was able to bring down a mighty dragon and enslave it. So in that case, who would she be comparable to (if that were the extent of her power)? Jclipps 01:16, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

"Yes...I am the Sunwell...not human...not Anveena...only great power...and so...you...you have no hold over me...and no hope against me."

If that quote is taken literally, she's at least almost as powerful as a titan. She's about 1/7 of all the power in the Well of Eternity, assuming each vial is equal in power.--Ragestorm (talk · contr) 02:07, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Point of note all the vials together didn't hold all the water from the well of eternity, only a very small fraction of the original water. So I doubt it could be 1/7 the power of the original. Infact I doubt we even want to try to figure out the percentage since we don't even have the dimensions of the original well.Baggins 02:22, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Cool, thanks. Now it just gets me thinking how powerful the Well of Eternity must have been...wow. Jclipps 09:05, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Anveena is going to be in the Sunwell Plateau

Ok guys, I just read this in worldofraids[1], extracted from the MPQ files of patch 2.4.0. Appears listed as a "boss ability", and is IMO one of the biggest and worst spoilers i've ever seen:

Sacrifice of Anveena - Anveena sacrifices herself, causing Kil'jaeden to take $s1% increased Holy damage.

Anveena's Prison - A field of Arcane power traps Anveena.

So it seems she is actually involved in the fight with Kil'jaeden, who has actually trapped her. Speculating a bit, I think Kil'jaeden's fight will involve releasing herin order to get her help.--Morgaur 21:53, 9 February 2008 (UTC)