Talk:Ashkandi, Greatsword of the Brotherhood

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If you read the article Aftermath of the Second Waryou will find the line "Turalyon, Lothar's most trusted lieutenant, took up Lothar's bloodstained shield and rallied his grief-stricken brethren for a vicious counterattack." All the evidence that Ashkandi does belong to Lothar fits except for the fact that he did not appear to have used it in the little information that is given to us. You'll see from his statue in the Burning Steppes that he did use a sword and shield in his final duel with Orgrim Doomhammer. So Lothar did use a shield. There are two loopholes in this. By today's standards you can't use a two-handed sword with a shield, so either Lothar was not restricted by this and could use Ashkandi in one hand. Or he, like alot of characters have weapons for situational use. He could have carried his one-hander and shield for some situations and Ahskandi for other times. Though realistically, real people would be restricted by space restraints, as well as wieght. Not us, we are potentially able to carry more than 80 2-handed heavy weapons with no difference to us. Realistically speaking, it would be cumbersome, overbearing, and tireing to carry around all that gear into battle. That isn't to say that it want possible though, Lothar was a remarkable man.--G3n0c1de

Prehaps he was strong enough to use a shield in one hand and a Two-handed sord in the other Juzuba 21:41, 14 March 2007 (EDT)

"And both carried weapons lesser warriors could never have wielded, the glittering rune-etched blade of Stormwind and the black-stone hammer of the Doomhammer line."^{ToD #?} A bit later: "Lothar took Doomhammer's hit full upon his lion-head shield, which crumpled from the impact"^{ToD #?} --Shalkis 06:23, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

That info would be better placed over in "Great Royal Sword".Baggins 06:29, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Ashkandi is Quel'Zaram?

Ashkandi doesn't sound like a Common word, it doesn't even sound Thalassian either. If anything it sounds more Draconic, imo... People have the theory that the sword was transformed to give it Draconic images, could it also be possible that its name was also changed? Could Ashkandi be infact Quel'Zaram? Note that both are said to be "Greatswords". Both appear to be two-handed weapons, and both seem to share similar build.-Baggins 17:47, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

The only thing that could mess with this theory is that both Quel'Zaram and Ashkandi are listed as seperate swords, or at least having seperate stats in the RPG. Quel'Zaram appears in Shadows and Light, and Ashkandi appears in Monster Guide. Its also interesting to note that Monster Guide does not draw any connection between Ashkandi and Anduin Lothar.Baggins 17:54, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

"Lother swung his sword up to block the vicious attack, and took the full force of the swing upon his blade-- --which shattered from the impact."^{ToD #?} That passage probably provides the reason why Ashkandi looks draconic now. Nefarian must have acquired the pieces and reforged the blade in his own image. --Shalkis 06:23, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Remember as far as we know Ashkandi is not the same weapon, that is only speculation. As far as published lore has stated we only know Quel'Zaram and the Ashkandi are two seperate weapons. No do we know if the Great Royal Sword is the Ashkanidi.Baggins 06:30, 23 November 2007 (UTC)