Point of note this doesn't appear to be a tribe but occult directly connected to the Hakkari, according to Dark Factions. Both share the same article, and have combined information in the book.Baggins (talk) 07:12, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

For further consideration: The official Blizzard website makes the distinction between tribes (Bloodscalp, Darkspear, Gurubashi, Shatterspear, and Skullsplitter) and factions (Atal'ai and Hakkari). LastStand (talk) 18:16, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

After further research its called a tribe in game, see Quest:The Atal'ai Exile. Also even thouh the troll compendium might call them factions it still lists them under the article "troll tribes" implying they are a kind of tribe.Baggins (talk) 04:04, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Not really. It says under known tribes that they are not included. It would have said Atal'ai tribe and Hakkari tribe. Also it doesn't say Atal'ai tribe, it is says The Atal'ai and The Hakkari.  Rolandius  (talk - contr) 05:12, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

They're in the same article only because it's about the different groups of jungle trolls. It specifically makes the distinction between faction and tribe: "Below you can learn more about the various groups of jungle trolls: the Bloodscalp tribe, the Darkspear tribe, the Gurubashi tribe, the Shatterspear tribe, and the Skullsplitter tribe, as well as the Atal'ai and Hakkari factions." -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 05:27, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

I agree.  Rolandius  (talk - contr) 05:29, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

The article name is "Jungle Troll Tribes", if the article discusses anything other than what the title subject is covering then the title is flawed or the article is flawed. The title implies that they are all tribes even if they aren't always called "tribe" specifically. You can call the Dragonmaw clan, "the Dragonmaw", or the Frostwolf clan, "the Frostwolves", and yet they are still clans. Regardless differing interpretations of the Compendium are irrelevent since ingame quotes confirm its a tribe.Baggins (talk) 07:05, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Your interpretation is flawed. It says right on top of the page that those two are factions. Also under the Jungle Trolls page it says known tribes, and does not list those two.  Rolandius  (talk - contr) 07:08, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Being a tribe and a faction aren't mutually exclusive its possible to be both. Besides its irrelevent its confirmed in the MMO that they are and are called tribes.Baggins (talk) 07:20, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

So far I've found three quests so far that call it the "Atal'ai tribe" specifically. I wouldn't be suprised if any quest in the game that even mentions the Atal'ai calls them the Atal'ai tribe...Baggins (talk) 08:01, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Picture Edit

We need a new picture of these guys. BobNamataki (talk) 21:02, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Why?--SWM2448 22:19, November 11, 2009 (UTC)