**Talk:**Base mana

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## Calculate base mana Edit

Does anyone know how to calculate base mana from your race and level and / or whatever else it may be derived from? Even a table of base mana for each race at level 70 would be fine.

Thanks, Kevlar

- To calculate this value, you first have to check the talents and enchantments that increase your total mana and correctly deduce this value from you maximum mana. Then you simply need to substract the mana gained from intellect from this value to get the base mana. Xtrochu (talk) 09:52, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

## Verify values Edit

Can someone verify the recently-changed values here? Last I checked (last week sometime), the few spells that my mage has that cost a percent of base mana still indicated 2241 base mana at 70 (not 1961). (E.g., Slow at 20% of base, or 448 mana at 70.) Wevah (talk) 19:50, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

- The numbers listed in the table are most assuredly incorrect now. For example, on my live paladin Crusader Strike (8% of base) costs 236 mana. If we use the numbers provided here the cost should be 214. The base mana of a paladin on live is most assuredly 2953, so whoever ran these numbers failed pretty badly. Flyingtoastr (talk) 19:12, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

## Most data purely empirical Edit

...from the research I've done, no one really knows the formula for base mana and most of the forum posts around the web point back to the WoWWiki base mana page for their values. So, basically, most of the numbers are from people posting what they think are the numbers on a very few forums and then those numbers proliferate all around and to here.

In short, don't trust the numbers. If I find good sources, I will update this page, but from what I can tell, there are no good sources. -- Fandyllic (talk · contr) 4:30 PM PST 25 Jan 2011