Talk:Bolvar Fordragon

This guy is an animal. honestly he hits fairly hard, but he takes very little damage. Take on 8 elite onyxia guards on his own, Awesome to see CJ 08:25, 9 Feb 2006 (EST)

Wow what a freak... oh, and by chance, does anyone know how much health points he has?

He seems to have about 525,000 HP (which is quite normal for a PvP boss) and he'll hit you for 800 DPS (without considering damage reduction by armor, resistances, etc. so in reality, a tank may take about ~400 DPS or so .. depending on buffs, gear, etc.). I don't know how accurate these numbers are but this should be quite close to his real statistics. Privatekey 12:49, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

This guy takes forever to kill in a 40-man of 60's. Had 10 warriors/rogue, 15 hunters, and 15 warlocks barely able to take him down. It's like cutting down an oak with a plastic hammer.

Yeah, I love watching him kill those dragon things. I usually watch him do it. I dont understand how he can do cleave, which means to cut and do Hammer of Justice

Unstoppable Juggernaut

His damage scales with the targets level so thus, A Boss ??, VS, Boss ?? would have un-expected results...As its +3 to a level but then...Would that mean that there level would keep rising? And to the point they would One Shot eachother? Or would the game crash?

It's not the damage that scales. His statistics (HP, Armor, DPS, Abilities, etc.) are static, it's the hit/crit/miss chance that scales. Pre-TBC bosses have an actual level of 63 so if two pre-TBC bosses were fighting each other, each of those would hit/crit/miss like a "Level 66" mob (since his target is "Level 63"). Bosses added after the expansion were given an actual level of 73, so BC-bosses fighting each other would hit/crit/miss like "Level 76" mobs. Privatekey 21:21, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

You can actually see that the game will not crash or show odd behaviour in a "Boss vs Boss" situation when someone's kiting an outdoor raid boss to a faction leader. There are videos of Teremus and Highlord Kruul being kited into Stormwind, fighting the faction leader Fordragon. "Teremus vs. Fordragon" usually results in a victory for Fordragon while Kruul will take down the human faction leader with ease. Faction leaders and PvP bosses in general (for example the Generals on Alterac Valley battleground) aren't very strong bosses (compared to most outdoor or raid instance bosses). They are only difficult to kill because of PvP action against the enemy raid. Privatekey 12:31, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Why no tactics page, Kirk?

There's a tactics page for Cairne, whom I've heard is one of the easiest bosses. There are tips on how to defeat Thrall on his page. Why nothing for Bolvar? Magni? Tyrande?--Illidan Rocks 09:02, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Extra pages are only created when there is a need - i.e. the main page becomes too large. User:Kirkburn/Sig3 15:45, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Ah, I see. Thank you.--Illidan Rocks 08:17, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Relatives

Maybe he is the son or a relative of Lady Mara Fordragon that is immortalized in a statue in Stormwind? --N'Nanz 11:39, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Most likely.Baggins 11:50, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

What about to add to the article? --N'Nanz 11:51, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Just add it to the NPC box.Baggins 11:58, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

I searched for it: [[1]]. It's said she was her mother --N'Nanz 12:35, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia doesn't give a source. Remember it can be just as fallable as any other peer-edited source.Baggins 12:55, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

For this reason I put "perhaps" --N'Nanz 12:56, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Main Picture

Where is that picture from? It's hideous, and doesn't even look anything like Mr. Fordragon. Just compare the faces! Looks like fan art to me. --Pure.Wasted 10:09, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Maybe Alliance Player's Guide. In the picture if you look at his right there is a staff carried by a little hand. If you look at the image in Lady Katrana Prestor page she holds the same staff in her left hand and an anormous fist is visible. That image comes from the Alliance Player's Guide. --N'Nanz 10:21, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

So it is an official source; that muddles the issue somewhat. I can't see why it would be so drastically different to the in-game appearance (and not in a good way). Oh well, official is official. Thanks for the head's up about where it came from. --Pure.Wasted 10:45, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Northrend

Recently watched the BliizCon 07 wow lore panel, presented by Metzen and Lead quest designer, they discuss the expansion and its content, Around 9mins into the video they talk of Garrosh, Sylvanas, Bolvar and Brann being in Northrend, he clearly states that Bolvar will be moved from Stormwind to Northrend in the forefront of the fight against Arthas. So guess Lo'Gosh/Varian will be bought to Stormwind to replace the departed Highlord. Video is here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOB7o00hlAc 13:14, 22 January 2008