Talk:Broxigar
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I'm not sure where it states Saurfang is his brother. --unsigned
- Saurfang mentions it. --Kakwakas 23:25, 7 December 2006 (EST)
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Broxxigar vs Broxigar
Blizzard can't seem to decide on how spell his name. The most recent spelling[1] is Broxxigar, so i recommend the article be moved and renamed to that. --Zeal (talk - contr - web) 22:11, 11 January 2007 (EST)
- Variant spellings aside, Brox is still the name most people knew him as, since only the shamans (and apparantly the Sisters) could call him Broxigar. That ring, however does imply that his full name is used (perhaps the full name is used for a lok'vadnod?), which contrasts him to Hellscream, who is not referred to as Grommash (the double "m" links to the double "x", perhaps that's why the change?). --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 09:05, 12 January 2007 (EST)
Agreed. I would like to point out, however, that, as not all readers play as shamans or priests of Elune, we use the shortened version as often as possible so as to respect orcish tradition (and avoid a respelling jihad).--Ragestorm (talk · contr) 10:39, 12 January 2007 (EST)
- The way I see it, Richard Knaak created this character, and named him Broxigar, so double x's are not even to be considered. When it comes to the title of the article, I believe that the use of his true name would be most appropriate, leaving a notice in the introduction of the abbreviation most people use, and sticking to it in the rest of the article. Another thing I've been thinking about, and would like to hear your opinion in, is when exactly the event where Brox and his orcish companions defended the bridge from the demons, the source of his guilt, took place? Since Knaak clearly states it was on Thralls' orders, it must have been during the third war. My thought is that it took place within one of the many demonic portals that Archimonde had opened in the night elves' forests. But whether it was before or after the battle of Mount Hyjal, I cannot say. What do YOU think? -- User:NerdKnight Xavier 10:50, 11 February 207 (EST)
- I really want to know where the hell it showed up as "xx" for the first time, as it was certainly before TBC, i already knew of the alternative spelling before them, no idea where it was from though. I always thought it was broxxigar and brox. Starting to wonder if Knaak wrote it in one of the books by mistake or something, and it's not be changed to that. :s
- Anyways, It is definitely before the start of tFT as far as i can tell, but no more, so any guess is good as there isn't that much to go on. I'd be inclinded to guess the same as you --Zealtalkcontrweb 18:58, 11 February 2007 (EST)
Clan?
Brox seems to have a long history in the wars on Azeroth, I can't believe he fought in all of them. I'm just really curious to know which of the Orcish Clans he belonged to. My guess is he was once a part of the Blackrock Clan before joining the New Horde. Any guesses? --TheOneCalledRed - 9:44 - 28, February 2007
- That would seem the most logical conclusion. The only other options are Dragonmaw, Bleeding Hollow, or Burning Blade. He was held at the camps, so he could have been captured at the battle of Grim Batol (Dragonmaw). If he was in Draenor and returned, then he could have been Bleeding Hollow. Alternatively, Burning Blade or Blackrock, and he somehow survived the assault on Blackrock Spire. --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 22:16, 28 February 2007 (EST)
Mecanics rumor
"The above implication is not mentioned in Rise of the Horde, which details the discovery of Draenor"... So it should not be mentoined in this article. The book details why the demon lord saught the orcs. Nothing about Brox was even implyed! I know Golden has a Knakk for leaving out key lore bits, like in LotC, but she is just one person and people forget things. Also, her deadlines are rediculus! It can be hard being an author. Discuss.--SWM2448 21:53, 1 May 2007 (EDT)
- Fair enough. Chalk it up to Knaak's own temporal mechanics of writing. --
Ragestorm (talk · contr) 20:31, 2 May 2007 (EDT)
Saurfang the Younger
I added Saurfang the Younger to his relatives list
Guilt
I've just finished reading War of the Ancients: Well of Eternity (not as good as Goldens work, but good nonetheless) and I'm a little confused about Brox. It says quite a few times that he is guilty about surving an attack on a mountain pass during the Third War. What I'm confused about is why does he feel guilty? Is it because he couldn't do more to save his comrades, or is it because to him he didn't give his all by dying, despite killing all the demons and holding the pass? No doubt this is explained in the novel, but it wasn't very clear to me, so could all of you smart people out there help me? :)
Cheers, Warchiefthrall 18:41, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
He says that if he would've fought harder, he would've die along with his comrades. While this seems contradictory to me, Broz just suffered from survivor's guilt, meaning he felt bad that he lived while all of his friends died.--Austin P 16:12, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
Hmm, pretty contradictory in my eyes. Cheers anyway Austin :) Warchiefthrall 17:45, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
- Survivor's guilt, I think. Mixed in with the promise of of a lok'vadnod, more complicated. Also, at one point, he mentions that he suddenly became afraid of death, and he felt guilty, because it was an offence to the spirits of his fallen comrades. --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 02:58, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Do you mean when he's talking to Tyrande in the Demon Soul? If so, he doesn't say he's afraid of death, he just realizes that he's fighting to die while everyone around him is fighting to live, and becomes ashamed that he would want to die at the potential cost of others.--Austin P 13:41, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the info guys. Much appreciated :) Warchiefthrall 15:31, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Is he really dead?
Is he really dead? I mean really really dead? Reading War of the Ancients gets you so close to some characters that it's sad to see him gone for ever.
- Yes, he's dead, that's the point. You don't kill characters unless you get close to them, and it would be unrealistic to have everyone survive. --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 18:55, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
And if he did come back somehow, it would ruin that great and heroic end to his life. I mean, injuring Sargeras... what a way to go... Warchiefthrall 17:19, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
