Talk:Crowd control
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This page is awful, I'm not sure I want to begin editing all the mistakes herein. --Burnsauce 15:40, 5 May 2006 (EDT)
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In progress
I'm working on removing all of the garbage about aggro control from this page and rewording everything. For those who don't know, before you edit: Crowd Control involves reducing or removing an opponent's ability to do combat freely. Aggro control has nothing to do with Crowd Control. --Burnsauce 14:55, 11 May 2006 (EDT)
User:Tsijun 21 Sept 2006. I've editted the hunter section and tightened up based on definition of CC. Hopefully this meets with approval. Positive feedback welcomed over abject negativity.
CC Effects
I just came across this list of CC effects and counters that could be cleaned up and incorporated into the page.
From http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=59382117&pageNo=10&sid=1#186
1. DISORIENT EFFECT = Freezing Trap, Scatter Shot, Blind
2. INCAPACITATE EFFECT = Gouge, Repentance
3. CHARM EFFECT = Seduction, Mind Control
4. FEAR = Fear, Howl of Terror, Psychic Scream, Intimidating Shout, Scare Beast
5. SLEEP = Wyvern Sting, Hibernate
7.SLOW = Concussive Shot, Wingclip, Frost Trap, Hamstring, Crippling Poison, Frost Shock, Earth Bind Totem, Cone of Cold, Frost Bolt, Ice Armor, Frost Armor, Blast Wave, Slow, Mind Flay, Curse of Exhaustion
8. ROOT = Entangling Root, Frost nova, Frost Bite, Counter Attack, Imp Wingclip, Entrapment, Imp Hamstring
9. STUN = Cheap Shot, Kidney Shot, Mace Specilization, Hammer of Justice, Imp Concussive Shot, Intimidation, Shadow Fury, Charge, Intercept, Impact, War Stomp , Bash, Pounce, Black Out
10. SAP = Sap
Free Action Potion gives you Immunity against category #7 , #8 , and #9...
Blessing of Freedom gives you Immunity against category #7 and #8...
Orc's passive racial skill Hardiness gives you resistance against category #9...
Stoicism Talent (Paladin) gives you resistance against category #9...
Nerves of Steel Talent (Rogue) gives you resistance against category #4 and #9...
Iron Will Talent (Warrior) gives you resistance against category #3 and #9...
Unbreakable Will Talent (Priest) gives you resistance against category #3 , #4 , and #9...
Primal Tenacity Talent (Druid) gives you resistance against category #4 and #9...
Sure Footed Talent (Hutner) gives you resistance against category #7 and #8...
Fleet Footed Talent (Rogue) gives you resistance against category #7 and #8...
Blazing Speed Talent (Mage) dispels category #7 and #8...
Gnome's active racial skill Escape Artist dispels category #7 and #8...
Improved Sprint dispels category #7 and #8...
Vanish dispels category #7 and #8...
Berserker's Rage dispels and gives immunity against category #2 and #4...
Undead active racial skill Will of the Forsaken dispels and gives you immunity against category #3, #4, and #5
Unyielding Faith Talent (Paladin) gives resistances against category #1 (Disorient)and #4 (Fear)...
Second Wind Talent (Warrior) reacts on category #8 (Root)and #9 (Stun)...
Only humanoids can be affected by category #10...
Mutagen 18:27, 27 December 2006 (EST)
- Edited by Egingell 22:15, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Vandalism
Some vandalism was done to this page due to a heated debate on the WoW forums, one person decided that rather than present a decent argument they would alter the evidence that this page had presented. Ive restored it back to its orriginal form and added a link to the topic where a blizzard poster clarifies on what is considered CC. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Calliope (talk · contr).
cc vs mob/aggro control aka tanking
- A lot of text in this article discusses tanking and tanking abilities as crowd control. Should there just be a note up top that says tanking is similar to crowd control in that those mobs choose not to attack party members but for that discussion see the tank topic?
- Also, lots of things were 'just like polymorph' which I changed to similar to polymorph except... Polymorph is one of the best heals (up to 100% health in <10 seconds) in the game that mobs can get and so these other things aren't really like it very much at all.
- This note is just to solicit some thoughts from the group. Ill see if anything shows up Re this note and then try to tackle some of these issues. --Dga 21:05, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Shaman abilities
Isn't Stoneclaw Totem a form of Crowd Control? - Chickamauga, 14 NOV 07
Paladin CC?
This article catagorizes blessing of salvation and righteous furry as "indirect crowd control". CC, to me, is getting rid of the mob, preventing it from causing harm to the party. These abilities do no such a thing, and only helps to direct who the mob is attacking. I propose that these abilities be removed from the article as they are not really forms of crowd control. Thoughts? Dantheman102100 22:44, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Removed abilities that are unrelated to cc
As someone had pointed out, the article was full of non-CC abilities. This is a page talking about CC, so no need to have so many unrelated abilities put down here. They are all covered in the respective instance strategy guides. I removed all those non-CC abilities, so it should look better now. WakemanCK 14:43, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Bash Change
Changed the information on Bash from "Feral Druids" to "Druids in Bear Form"; Bash is available to all Druids when in Bear Form, and it is not exclusive to Feral Druids. Felindre