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: Right. So the Broken appearance was altered, not the Lost Ones. {{User:Kirkburn/Sig3}} 02:39, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
 
: Right. So the Broken appearance was altered, not the Lost Ones. {{User:Kirkburn/Sig3}} 02:39, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
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Originally only mad draenei were called lost ones and looked identical to other draenei. Then Blizzard retconned the whole race into crazies.
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[[User:Zarnks|Zarnks]] 02:42, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

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It's said there that they have shamanistic rituals ... WTF ? If this is true (means have a solid basis) Draenei could REALLY be shamanistic ... (for God's sake oO)--Kirochi 07:29, 16 April 2006 (EDT)

Lost Ones is a name that the tribe of sub-species Draenei that came to Azeroth after the destruction of their world call themselves. However members of that type of sub-species that still exist on Draenei do not call themselves "Lost Ones", and are adds with Akama's Group which is currently known as the Broken. There is some evidence that Akama's group started out as this particular variety of mutation(as they were seen in TFT), but were mutated further into the Broken style subspecies after they were exposed to further demonic influences while under Illiden, in remarks in Blizzard's Broken article.Baggins 14:38, 13 May 2006 (EDT)

Well, well, all draenei at The Harborage have either become uncorrupted draeneir or broken style draenei.Baggins 03:27, 23 November 2006 (EST)

Page Move

What's up with the name change? I liked Lost One just fine. Are they known as "Draenei Lost Ones" anywhere? --Hobinheim 23:41, 23 December 2006 (EST)

In game, and also the RPG, they call themselves Draenei still, along with Lost Ones. Lost Ones is used more as a faction/clan name. There are some uncorrupted Draenei that still treat them as Draenei and are looking for some kind of cure to return them to their original forms.Baggins 23:43, 23 December 2006 (EST)

I guess I'm saying... Why namespace the faction with Draenei if there are no other Lost Ones in the universe? It's not like there are Troll Lost Ones, right? So stick with the lesser of the two for a page name. --Hobinheim 23:46, 23 December 2006 (EST)

It is more for disambiguation purposes, as they are still technically Draenei. There are also other clans that look like Lost Ones, but have different faction names.Baggins 23:50, 23 December 2006 (EST)

Blizzard has really given us a headache with the Draenei. Good god. Not that Blizzard has ever done a good job with lore housekeeping... A new quest in Swamp of Sorrows exposes us to one Draenei's suspicion that the Lost Ones are actually the result of Blood Elf meddling. Not only is this never elaborated, it seems TOTALLY superfluous. We already know that Draenei were exposed to terrible fel energies before and after the destruction of Draenor. It seems more likely to me that the Lost Ones reached their current, sad state on Draenor as a result of this exposure, and then escaped through the Dark Portal along with some (less exposed) Broken. That some of the Lost Ones are warlocks suggests the Lost Ones are the result of a second wave of Eredar corruption by the Dark Legion. benefice2 13:29, 19 January 2007 (EST)

I fail to see how your comment has anything to do with this topic (the changing of the pagename)--Ragestorm (talk · contr) 14:05, 19 January 2007 (EST)

"A new quest in Swamp of Sorrows exposes us to one Draenei's suspicion that the Lost Ones are actually the result of Blood Elf meddling."

Actually the quest only states that some giant lost ones, are were created through blood elf meddling, not all the lost ones as a whole. Lost ones have existed before blood elves came to outland.Baggins 16:56, 21 January 2007 (EST)

Man, the Blood Elves are the nosiest bunch of weirdos in WoW, they mess with gnomes, draenei, dragonhawks, lynxes. What else did they mutate into some evil kind of slave?

Class?

Why is "Druid" listed as an available character class? Doesn't seem to apply. Moonshadow101 14:45, 10 January 2007 (EST)

Maybe it's some reference to some Warcraft RPG info... Maybe after their degeneration they created some connection to the Nature? Or another error came out because of their retcon - I a lot of inconsistencies of the new Draenei with the rest of Warcraft Lore, especially the History of Warcraft, e.g. it says that the eredar were all innately evil, like the Nathrezim. --Sul'jin 14:56, 10 January 2007 (EST)

Shamans more than druids... Don't think any RPG book lists them as druids. Although their shaman connection gives them a connection to nature.Baggins 14:51, 13 January 2007 (EST)

I quote, morons :
(actu) (dern)  1 décembre 2006 à 05:25 Harij (Discuter | contributions) (Added Druid (there are Lost One Druids in Zangarmash))

If you paid a look at the history you probably would've noticed why the word "Druid" was added before reverting such an interesting information.--K ) (talk) 17:27, 13 January 2007 (EST)

I never reverted it.Baggins 17:28, 13 January 2007 (EST)
Yeah, read again. I warned you, watch the history before even considering reverting. Oh my god ...--K ) (talk) 17:32, 13 January 2007 (EST)

I never planned to revert it. Only pointing out it wasn't from the RPG. I personally assumed it was a BC thing.Baggins 17:35, 13 January 2007 (EST)

Paladin is a class? They are cut off from the light, No?--SWM2448 20:31, 5 May 2007 (EDT)
Paladin's not listed as a class. --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 22:22, 5 May 2007 (EDT)

A Feralfen Druid[1]Baggins 22:41, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

they were cut off from the light as the orcs were cut off from the elements, yet they gained them back years later. the dranei became shaman after the orcs left dranor, although it was a broken who first became a shaman for the dranei. one thing i am suprised about is that the dranei cant be rouges because in WC3 all dranei had permiet constant shadow meld no matter what time of day even when they move, but it may be only the broken who can go invisable. stormrage1313666

The reason why they don't have rogues? To balance the class lists for all races. Its gameplay thing. They'll likely have ability to be rogues in the RPG.Template:Baggins

I'm confused

Ok, I dont understand this race. Why are they druids? If they devolved, that means at one time the regular Draenei would have been at one time Broken and Lost Ones. Its like if humans were to devolve, we would devolve to apes (or Adam and Eve), not super humans. If theyre ruled over by the Broken, does that mean theyre Alliance or some of Illidans troops? How did they devolve? Demonice magic like the orcs turned red &green from it, or just some kind of new Genesis and it just happened? I dont understand why these guys were shunned, its not theyre fault they devolved, not like the orcs who chose to be like they are. Why are they mages if theyre primitive, I thought only intelligent races could become mages. Like if youre a non mage, sometimes the mage or portal trainers say youre not smart enough to understand mage or portal magic. (Mr.X8 00:22, 25 May 2007 (UTC))

They've physically devolved. Not necessarily mentally. Pzychotix 11:42, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

So that means then at one point in WoW time, the Draenei looked (or were) Broken and even farher back Lost Ones. (Mr.X8 20:07, 25 May 2007 (UTC))

No. You're taking devolution as the same as evolution, except backwards instead of forward. To devolve can also mean to deteriorate, which is the case for the Draenei becoming the Broken and Lost ones. The Broken and Lost Ones are recent changes. From all the information that has been presented, the (unchanged) draenei have always looked as they do now.--Maenos 20:24, 25 May 2007 (UTC)


YES! :) thanx everyone! Now that the whole devolution thing has been solved, how come they can be druids, is there anywhere that says they were/are druids? (Mr.X8 20:55, 25 May 2007 (UTC))

Look up one section. Apparently there are Lost Ones who are Druids inside Zangarmarsh. Pzychotix 23:55, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

yeah, stupid me. I looked at that article thing after I wrote this.


"not like the orcs who chose to be like they are." No they didn't they were tricked and lied to by the burning Legion. This is shown in Rise of The Horde. Zarnks 05:26, 12 July 2007 (UTC)


Pic

Almost every race has a smal pic such as

Name Faction Server Race Class Level Guild Rank
dfrgt Neutral None IconSmall Human Male Mage Mage 70 None
Name Faction Server Race Class Level Guild Rank


Do the draenei lost ones have their own pic like the races above? Mr.X8 01:20, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Playable races have those little pics. --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 02:44, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah and so do alot of non playable ones. Fel orcs, high elves, ogres, broken, dark iron dwarves. Mr.X8 02:37, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Would someone be able to make a pic for them, since they are major inhabitants of the Swamp of Sorrows and Outland? Mr.X8 03:38, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Mr.X8, I hereby give you the mission of creating this icon. Good luck.--K ) (talk) 13:08, 5 August 2007 (UTC)


Wait, wait, wait. Half time I don't know what I'm doing when I edit stuff, I can't do it. Mr.X8 18:22, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

They already have one. Look: List of draenei in Azeroth. ---- Varghedin Varghedin  talk / contribs 18:32, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Oh the reason it didn't come up for me was because when I did Lost One, I typed in LostOne Male.

Lost one appearance retconed

no they completly retconned their appearance. There are model limitations like Grom's model in World of Warcraft but saying he was really a blue midget orc the whole time is an appearance retcon. All important lost ones are being retconned into broken for no apparent reason. If they wanted Akama to look like a broken(which were invented way later)they would have used a broken model. His appearance was completly retconned. Zarnks 02:27, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Stop bringing up Grom, it has no relevance here ...
Anyway, the draenei in WC3 weren't Lost Ones, they just used the same model. User:Kirkburn/Sig3 02:33, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Grom wasn't green and tall,he just had the wrong model. Thats what Akama was originally intended to look like,Broken didn't even exist at that point. Now Blizzard says Akama wasn't brownskinned with two clawed toes,he was a blue tentacle guy the entire time. A complete appearance retcon. Zarnks 02:35, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Right. So the Broken appearance was altered, not the Lost Ones. User:Kirkburn/Sig3 02:39, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Originally only mad draenei were called lost ones and looked identical to other draenei. Then Blizzard retconned the whole race into crazies. Zarnks 02:42, 27 August 2007 (UTC)