Ugh.. am I just crazy? I remember these things being nasty slime/tentacle things in the Frozen Throne.. not humanoid mindflayer-looking things. Of course I'm only running off memory, so I have no doubt that I'm totally wrong. I think I'll be playing through the entire Warcraft series later on so I can reaffirm my faulty memory. --Anticrash 12:05, 29 Dec 2005 (EST)
- You're not wrong. The image sure does look like one of the Unbroken from WC3:TFT. Could they be the same thing? Never heard of the Faceless Ones.
- --Fandyllic 1:33 PM PST 29 Dec 2005
take a look at [1]
- I've seen that link before LemonBaby, thats why I'm so confused. --Anticrash 00:09, 30 Dec 2005 (EST)
- I replayed the campaign in the Frozen Throne and confirmed my suspicions. I had no recollection of the Faceless Ones being members of the Unbroken race. All I had recalled were the large tentacles, which I realize now are apparently appendages of the Forgotten One that emerge from cracks in the floor throughout the map. I don't know where I got slime from...
- So I read somewhere that the Old God Cthun lies buried within the planet, and awaits his rebirth in Ahn'Qiraj. Since the Faceless/Forgotten One(s) were buried beneath Northrend, it makes sense that they are somehow connected to the Old Gods (who were imprisoned deep inside the earth by the Titans). Since the Faceless/Unbroken are buried with the Old Gods, its logical that they'll be making an appearance in one of the Ahn'Qiraj instances when the Hand and Mouth of C'thun show up. --Anticrash 10:05, 30 Dec 2005 (EST)
- I think what you mean by "slime tentacle things" may be this (sorry, kinda hard to see): [2]
Or this (at the bottom of the page): [3]
- --Gilmat
Silithus and The Faceless One
Do you remember in Warcraft 3: The Frozen Throne, One of the Campaign with Maiev ? She enter the Tomb of Sargeras with Naisha. There is many flash about the story, etc etc. At the end, she meet Illidan in the last room, and there is a big monster... a big Mouth who spawn tentacle ! There was also Faceless one with that strange creature. If you check WoW Model viewer, there is some monster called "The Mouth of C'thun" and the "The Hand of C'thun". The hand of C'thun is a kind of Tentacle like in the Warcraft 3 Campaign with Maiev. I guess the Faceless one are like the Silithis... a Creature who mutated because of the influence of the Old Gods. --Shatiana 19:26, 29 Dec 2005 (EST)
Faceless and Unbroken
In the Undead missions, The Faceless Ones and the Unbroken were the same race, and were identical apart from skin color (Faceless Ones were a dark purple, Unbroken were almost pink) and size. as for the Old God connection- let's see what Blizzard comes up with! Faceless Ones in Ahn'Qiraj would definetly be an interesting plot twist.- Ragestorm, Head Bookkeeper
Servants of C'thun
"The Faceless Ones, we have come to find, were the servants of the Old God, C'thun."
What's the source for the above claim? I can't find anything verifying it.--Aeleas 12:58, 24 March 2006 (EST)
- The Faceless Ones, we have come to find, may be the servants of the Old God, C'thun. How they came to be in Northrend is unknown.
If there's nothing concrete backing this, I think it would be best to remove it. There is a lot of speculation around the beings Arthas encountered and C'Thun or the other Old Gods, but until we have something concrete, I think it's best to keep speculation separate. --Aeleas 12:13, 6 April 2006 (EDT)
Arthas's Mission
I don't remember anything about maiev encountering them but I do remember Arthas and Anu'burak blundering into them along with dozens of tentacles. Shortly there after they first encountered the faceless ones. Is it just me or do these creatures REALLY make one think of H.P. Lovecraft. The simularities between C'Thun and Cthulhu (not many except the name and sleeping god persona) makes me think Blizz wants to believe the old gods (and C'Thun in particular) rule over the faceless ones.--Darkling235 20:21, 26 April 2006 (EDT)
Naxxramas
Is it just me or does this seem like a faceless one http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/imageviewer.html?/info/underdev/1p11/,images/,18,18,http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/1p11/roadtodamnation3.html
looks to me like some sort of fungal golem. Faceless Ones tend to look like they're made of tentacles, and so far we've only seen them with skins of blues and pinks. also, Faceless One eyes are triangles of solid color. And I don't think they're that large. Even so, lore-wise, why would Faceless or Unbroken be in Naxxramas? --Ragestorm 21:00, 28 April 2006 (EDT)
I'd have to assume Arthas has raised at least a few of them. With the Forgotten One beaten down at least temporarily I'd be surprised if he hadn't recruited some of them.--Darkling235 15:40, 30 April 2006 (EDT)
- Naxxramas was in Lordaeron prior to Arthas encountering the Faceless Ones.
- Faceless Ones might not be able to become undead
- If Arthas bothered to reanimate them, that means he respected them enough to do so. There was no hint in the campaign that he was impressed enough to do so.
- The Upper Kingdom, where most of the Faceless Ones lived, was cut off by the cavequake at the end of that chapter. The Inner Kingdom caved in prior to that, when the Forgotten One died.
--Ragestorm 13:50, 1 May 2006 (EDT)
Draenei
Is it only me, or do the features of the Faceless Ones remind you awfully much about the Draenei? They are blue, they are bipedal, they have the same "pig-feet", they have the facial tentacles, they seem to be about the same proportions as the (uncorrupted) Draenei. All those similarities lead me to ponder whether the Faceless Ones actually can be a corrupted state of Draenei, like the Lost Ones and the Broken. --Davaeorn 11:57, 11 May 2006 (EDT)
Ummm... I don't really see it- anyway, recall that the Faceless Ones were regarded as legends by the Nerubians, no young race themselves. This would mean that the Draenei would have had to A) have found Azeroth in the distant past and B) have landed their long enough to leave their descendants, but to have still fled to Draenor. While this could link the two, it is not likely because any world with the slightest trace of Draenei magic would have been Burned by the Legion- Kil'jaeden would not have allowed any Draenei to survive by any means. --Ragestorm 16:33, 11 May 2006 (EDT)
But then again, the Legion haven't been able to burn Azeroth as of yet, and seeing how few of those Faceless Ones we've seen in the Warcraft mythos, we can safely say that if any kind of migration of these creatures would have been minor to say the least - perhaps insignificant enough for the traces of magic to be cloaked by the likely much greater magical powers of a more potent and numerous civilization. Since we do not know when they appeared on Azeroth (still in the theory of them being originally Draenei), we cannot either pinpoint which that civilization would have been, but perhaps the Gurubashi Empire or even the highborne.
I still see striking physical resemblance :) --Davaeorn 05:05, 18 May 2006 (EDT)
On another note, they might even have been in their original forms upon arriving on Azeroth, and twisted later on as a result of their allegiance with the Silithid and C'thun. If this is the case, they can safely have escaped Kil'Jaedens wrath by being proteges of the former mentioned. Perhaps this was choosing the lesser evil. --Davaeorn 05:11, 18 May 2006 (EDT)
Or, they are not even Draenei, but Eredar. We do not know if the Legion and the Old God works towards a common goal, or have any kind of bond or alliance. If they do, exchange of forces can't really be ruled out. There can be hundreds of other possible scenarios as well. --Davaeorn 05:32, 18 May 2006 (EDT)
While I must disagree with you, I commend you heartily for actually posing theories instead of just saying, "well, look at them!" ;-P If the War of the Ancients books are canon, which they probably are, Krasus seems to be aware that the Old Gods and the Legion are not friends, if not directly at odds. The Old Gods aren't obsessed with the Burning of all worlds in the Nether. in terms of mental processes, the Eredar would be unlikly to take on any new forms that limit their magic, and the Draenei would probably consider joining with the darkness of the Old Gods an affront to the Light- though I'll admit that there's room for anything, as the lore is nearly nonexistent. --Ragestorm 07:12, 18 May 2006 (EDT)
There's no reason to assume that, should the faceless ones have connections to the Draenei, that they had to have come before the Nerubians. Anyway... The tentacles on the Eredar/Draenei look vestigial in nature, much like a human appendix. That along with the other physical similarities leads me to believe that there is a connection between the Faceless and the Eredar/Draenei. Besides that, the parallels between the title "Unbroken" and "The Broken" branch of the Draenei adds even more evidence to a connection. Just an observation, the Unbroken seemed subservient to the other Faceless during 7.3 in the campaign, showing up with one Faceless surrounded by 4 Unbroken and other such matchups. Another thing, I was recently reading the WotA series and I noticed a number of connections to the Old Gods: Azshara and the Highborne being transformed into Naga by the OG, Neltharion being corrupted... I just had a crazy thought, would it be possible for the Forgotten One to be a creation of Deathwing in the image of the Old Gods that corrupted him, with the Faceless Ones as his minions? The Faceless and Forgotten seem to have been revealed when Illidan split Northrend, even the king of Azjol-Nerub did not recognize them, calling them legends. It is known that Malygos resides in Northrend, is it possible that Deathwing was trying to finish what he started? Or perhaps he was only trying to create a new Old God, maybe even as a vessel for the other Old Gods to inhabit. God, speculation drives me mad. Perhaps in the next Expac.
- First of all, sign your posts, please. The implication is that the Faceless predate the Nerubians by virtue of Anub'arak's reaction. The Neltharion connection does work, but again, we have the issue of time: as Azol-Nerub predates the War by centuries at the least, anything beneath Azol-Nerub would have to be older still (as you pointed out, Illidan inadvertently released them). As for the Unbroken, there's bee no evidence of them at all. --Ragestorm 13:12, 31 July 2006 (EDT)
Let's settle this
Once and for all: where does it say there is a connection between the Faceless Ones and the Old Gods?--Ragestorm 21:58, 20 December 2006 (EST)
- I don't think it says this anywhere, but if the connection between the forgotten one and C'thun is true, the fact that the forgotten one controlled them makes it almost certain they are related to the old gods. ~Gamerxl