Talk:Fandral Staghelm
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I hate this guy
This guy is going to lead the druids into the ground I hope the true arch druid destroys whatever is happening in the emerald dream soon either that or someone like Hamuel Runetotem take over
- While I'm in full agreement, O fellow Devotee of Furion, we are asking that you sign your posts (with four tides, ~ ~ ~ ~ without the spaces) so that we know who we're talking to. Were you making an observation or starting a discussion? --Ragestorm 07:34, 21 June 2006 (EDT)
I think he's just bitter because General Rajaxx killed his son.-Bubblehearthlol
Seeing your son be snapped in half by a giant insect monster is no excuse for being an A-hole, if he's a druid he should no that his son lives on in hte dream or somthing like that. or mabye rez him since druids can do that. Truckman1 15:07, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
Yeah I hate him too,he's specist against tauren druids. If Malfurion were here he'd get rid of Staghelm along with that sorry excuse world tree. He'd probably work on uniting the Horde and the Alliance too. Zarnks 18:50, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
- If Shan'do Stormrage were to return, everything would be for the better. --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 03:19, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
Fandral. Arch Druid or Druid of Claw?
For my campaigns should I make him look like a Malfurion or a Druid of the Claw?
Go with what you think is right.
For Warcraft III? Make him look like Malfurion. He is an Archdruid, after all. Xavius, the Satyr Lord (talk) 18:24, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
This Staghelm guy is a real arse. I played a Night Elf Druid and a Tauren Druid and I must say the Tauren Arch Druid is a lot nicer. I think the Tauren are closer to nature than the night elves. Malfurion is a great guy, but come back please Shando Stormrage... I hate Staghelm.
As for his son, its a sad tale, but no excuse to plant an evil tree and be a nasty person. The other Night Elf NPCs are so nice most of the time. This guy has some issues.
- Sign your posts please. That's the whole point- if every NPC were nice and heroic, you'd find yourself incredibly bored. --Ragestorm 10:17, 26 November 2006 (EST)
- Actually, that's why I like him much more than any night elf. Night elfs normally have no real character at all - at least Staghelm has. The rest of them are mostly "Oh, fiddlefiddle yay tree woowoo ohnoes demons pewpew" and that's it. --Tinkerer 10:18, 26 November 2006 (EST)
- I would, but I find gnomes hilarious. I recall Blizzard's female gnome voice sample: "I apoligize profusely for any inconvienience my murderous rampage may have caused." She must have been a warlock.--Ragestorm 11:59, 26 November 2006 (EST)
I like world killing trees as much as the next guy but I gota agree with you he is an arse and I don't play a druid and I still hate him I wish either (A)Malfurion comes back or (B) His world killing tree kills him.--Vrall 19:49, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Interesting subplot?
There's been some hints in various quest texts and other things that could lead to the conclusion that Staghelm may have a hand in Malfurion being stuck in the Emerald Dream - probably in order to seize power for himself. --Szili 15:19, 28 March 2007 (EDT)
Can you give us the text of those quests? Hordesupporter 12:45, 12 April 2007 (EDT)
In the book Lands of Mystery it is stated that Malfurion was betrayed by another druid that trapped him in the nightmare. It also says only 2 druids are powerfull enough to do that: Remulos and mr Staghelm. And since Staghelm often argued with Malfurion about how the druids should act, he also studies Morrowgrain. Would be cool if blizz made us fight him:) (Keilden 02:45, 7 May 2007 (EDT))
Could be. But dosent Malfurions Spirit talk to Remolus as his friend? (Keilden 16:04, 7 May 2007 (EDT))
Hmm yeah. But why would he do it? There are several reasons for Staghelm to do it, but Remmy? (Keilden 02:11, 8 May 2007 (EDT))
- Drama, my friends, drama. His reasons would only be obvious in hindsight. For example, Tyrande could lead a raid through a dungeon to get to Malfurion's kidnapped body; just as the find it, it is not Staghelm, but Remulos who steps from the shadows; who then explains. Like I said, I prefer it if Staghelm's the one guilty. It's also possible it's someone else we don't yet know about. -_Ragestorm (talk · contr) 08:30, 8 May 2007 (EDT)
Hmm the reason i see why Remmy would it becuse the Legion/Old Gods/Random Evil Dude somehow convinced him that its Malfurions fault that his brother was killed by the centaurs. (Keilden 02:31, 9 May 2007 (EDT))
Actually, Furion wasn't necessarily attacked by a druid. That description comes from an adventure hook, which aren't official but are placed in the book to give RPG players some ideas for their campaigns. Not that it's not a good discussion topic, it's just not a fact that it was another druid that took him out. --Austin P 13:02, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
- You raise an excellent point. However, the only people besides druids who would have access to Furion's den are Priestesses of the Moon... --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 18:41, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Creation
The only reason Fandral is here is because Blizzard is a bunch of Malfurion fanboys and fangirls and didn't want Horde ganking Malfurion, thats the reason they created Fandral, just to protect Furion. Hordesupporter 15:32, 11 April 2007 (EDT)
- If THAT would be the only reason Tyrande would not be attackable and Thrall would also be missing.--Maibe 16:48, 11 April 2007 (EDT)
It's a point of opinion I was making, Sylvanas is my favorite character so I get upset when the alliance kills her, if I had it my way she would be untargetable, I was just trying to sound stupid with my comment, but it might have some partial truth. Hordesupporter 12:40, 12 April 2007 (EDT)
- Actually...most of the people I know on the servers I'm on think tyrande gives PVP-Points...Staghelm gets ignored by Horde and Alliance alike...--Maibe 13:41, 12 April 2007 (EDT)
- If there really were fanboys and fangirls in Blizzard who want to protect Malfurion, they wouldn't have had Fandral stab him in the back (not literally, well possibly poisoning actually), and leave him for dead, ;). Its implied that Fandral is partially behind the coma that Malfurion is in, so that he could get the position of power.Baggins 17:36, 12 April 2007 (EDT)
I just meant they were favoring Stormrage, so much that they decided to make sure that the horde would never gank him. Hordesupporter 23:03, 12 April 2007 (EDT)
- and THAT, my dear, is completely nonsense...have you even read what I said about Tyrande and Thrall? If you'd knew a BIT about Blizzard you'd rather say they favour Thrall...yet...he is ingame...and killable...--Maibe 05:41, 13 April 2007 (EDT)
Did you completly miss my point? I said my comments we're meant to sound stupid. Hordesupporter 18:59, 14 April 2007 (EDT)
In game leader
Despite Tyrande being designated the official NE leader, Staghelm is designated as the leader in-game (Players gets Honor for killing him rather than Tyrande). So I've added that note. Felz 02:16, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Also the link shows the list of bosses which grant HK, Staghelm is among that list. Felz 02:22, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
