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Regards to arms/bridgeEdit

Went into Ulduar tonight to test out Iron Council, got kicked out because Blizzard accidentally left Kologarn and Razorscale turned on. Coming back in, it looked like the bridge in Kologarn's place was his corpse. His arms are separate models, so they're undoubtedly adds in this fight. --Combat 15 Gnifewrench <Unholy> 05:38, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Actually if you look at him its a reused kiljaeden model, like the sunwell the floor is the scenary. probably they took kil jaedens arms off him and set them as two diferent models. they have same stance, i wonder if he sinks into the floor when dead though.--Whitedragon254 sigYou know im seriously 1337 now. {T1337 to the extreme.CThe dragon protects me...that and my MG 30 glock of course..) 21:30, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't see the resemblance to Kil'jaeden there. I *DO*, however, see the resemblance to the stone golem model. [1] -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 22:05, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Is everyone sure NPCs like this are really "titans"? He is guarding the "Keepers of Ulduar" who themselves do not all look like titans i.e. Mimiron. Rolandius Paladin (talk - contr) 10:30, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

There are no titans on Azeroth, Loken, Thorim, Freya etc.. Are watchers not titans themselves. People think they are infact titans because they use a model called "titan" but they are actually creations like the dwarfs and gnomes just more powerfull. CaiuNariz

Nowhere does it say they're titans, yet nowhere does it say they're NOT titans either. I'd say there's enough evidence for either argument. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 02:58, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
I guess either/or. We do know that Algalon the Observer was sent pretty quickly by the titans to Azeroth though. "Algalon was sent by the Titans after watcher Loken's death activated a planetary fail-safe protection, indicating possible distress on Azeroth." So the "real" titans must be nearby, relatively speaking of course, and they know what is occuring on Azeroth... Rolandius Paladin (talk - contr) 03:15, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
I think the Makers can be very far away. As The Travelers, they must not be very disturbed by far distances in a quick time.
Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk) 09:42, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

They aint titans, just watchers, but can be considered like mini-titans, not as powerful but are like the titans. btw the kil'jaeden model, not resemblance, but Base model. like his animations etc are kil'jaedens. like those princes who have a night elf model, the quariji ones (spelt wrong probably).--Whitedragon254 sigYou know im seriously 1337 now. {T1337 to the extreme.CThe dragon protects me...that and my MG 30 glock of course..) 21:20, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Muse references? Edit

Could the quotes: "I am Invincible" and "I will squeeze the life from you?" both be references to the music band Muse? - Phalk June 26, 2009

"I am invincible," at least, is yet another reference to the Black Knight from Monty Python and the Holy Grail. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 01:44, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

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