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Where should I put the information then? Lordaeron is a part of the human forces. If your the humans, you are victorius. If you are the orcs, you destroy Lordaeron in the end.  Rolandius Paladin (talk - contr) 13:39, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

It's an accepted fact that lore-wise, the humans won WarCraft II, the orc ending is non-canonical (if anyone reading this DARES to use the term Flavor Lore, they're banned). See if you can slip it in on Warcraft II: Tides of Darkness. --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 13:56, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
I know that is why I said that Warcraft II: Beyond the Dark Portal uses the Human outcome of Warcraft II: Tides of Darkness as the right one. Okay I will try to put it on that page you suggested.  Rolandius Paladin (talk - contr) 15:24, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Well actually there is a Lordaeron (WC2) section in the article. Its placement should probably moved towards the end (as such sections are in other articles), but its definitely the place to show alternate outcomes, and all uses of Lordaeron in Warcraft II.Baggins (talk) 15:32, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Okay. Well I put it on the page Warcraft II: Tides of Darkness already so I guess if someone wants to copy it onto the page Kingdom of Lordaeron they know where to put it now.  Rolandius Paladin (talk - contr) 15:39, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Well the problem with your previous addition to this topic as Ragestorm pointed out was that all you added was essentially the outcome to the game, and that you didn't even discuss Lordaeron. What you typed was more of an explanation of the game, or a rough explanation of Horde, and Alliance outcomes, than having anything to do with Lordaeron alone.Baggins (talk) 15:55, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Ya I know. I didn't want to make it too long by mentioning all the forces of the Alliance so I just wrote Human Campaign.  Rolandius Paladin (talk - contr) 16:07, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Speculation (recovered from removal and put here)Edit

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Azeroth = Lordaeron (past) Edit

Lordaeron seems to have been named Azeroth previously. Lands of Conflict made a few references that imply that the continent of Lordaeron, before it was named that, was named Azeroth. This could be true since the kingdom of Lordaeron, and subsequently the continent of Lordaeron, came along much later in history than the start of the Empire of Arathor. This would also fit because a group left Stromgarde to create the kingdom of Azeroth further south and subsequently named that continent Azeroth, which by this time the northern continent would have been named Lordaeron after the kingdom of Lordaeron's rise and Arathor's decline in the more recent past. The group that left Stromagarde were heirs of King Thoradin and may have named their kingdom, and the new continent Azeroth, in honor of their past glory when the Empire of Arathor was the greatest force in all the known lands.

  • ...the Arathi assured them the land would always belong to all peoples and named the land as a whole in homage to their ancient ancestors: Azeroth."[1]
  • ...some of the survivors had made their way to northern Azeroth and established a new kingdom, called Quel’Thalas...", [2]
  • ...The humans, on the other hand, spent centuries expanding their borders until the Empire of Arathor nearly covered Azeroth.", [3]

symbol Edit

What is the symbol of loarderan cuz i have know clue -IloveWhitemane

It's a highly stylized L. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 00:28, September 17, 2009 (UTC)
In Warcraft II, it looks like it has an ankh through it (I thought so for some reason), but Arthas: Rise of the Lich King confirms it is a sword.--SWM2448 00:53, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

The Many LordaeronsEdit

This page does not really make it clear that, as with Azeroth, Lordaeron means several things. It means both a city, a nation, and a continent. Now which comes first is a biot wierd, because why name a continent after one city state (the others would not think much of the idea), but if the continent was named first (land of the peacful people, or some such phrase) why would a new city, founded by nobles from strom, name itself after the landmass onwhich all the peoples of the kingdom of Arathor dwelt at the time. It makes little sence really, and i prefer to call the region Arathor for my own purposes, but as Lordaeron is Cannon, i think this fact should be made more clear on the page. gadget (talk) 01:33, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

take it back Edit

why has the alliance done nothing to take it back and have excluted the people who are trying to (The scarlet cruaide) i side with the scarlet cruaide i want Lordaeron back lol User:IloveWhitemane

Because most of the land is likely inhospitable because of the Scourge, there are a bunch of dead people milling about the capital who wouldn't be too happy if you tried to take their relatively new home away from them, and even more dead people wandering around the wilderness. Also, I hate to be a spoilsport but you really ought to take this to the forums. The staff might get a little cranky. --Super Bhaal (talk) 02:36, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Picture Edit

We need a picture of the city from when Medivh arrived. BobNamataki (talk) 11:27, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

File:Lordaeroncity.jpg already exists.. --N'Nanz (talk) 11:39, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Continent ≠ Kingdom Edit

I don't know why the continent of Lordaeron is in the same article of the Kingdom of Lordaeron. The CONTINENT are the Eastern and Western plaguelands (Scourge), Tirisfal Glades and Silverpine Forest (Forsaken, Horde). The only place that the alliance control is Gilneas. The KINGDOM of Lordaeron was Tirisfal Glades, Silverpine Forest, and the place around Stratholme, Andorhal,etc. But Alterac, Dalaran, Gilneas, etc wasn't part of Kingdom of Lordaeron. --Edhu9 (talk) 03:35, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

It could be split, but it may be a messy one based on the current layout of the page. The continent includes everything connected to the mass of land north of the Thandol Span (except sometimes Quel'Thalas). The kingdom was what is now Tirisfal Glades, the Western Plaguelands, the Eastern Plaguelands, Silverpine Forest, and Hillsbrad Foothills (minus Dalaran and Alterac).--SWM2448 03:50, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
I agree it may be not that easy, but it is confusing that both terms are mixed in the same article. As you have stated, they include different areas; furthermore, they refer to different things. I think we should start thinking on how to split it.--Sega381 (talk) 01:39, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
Was just wondering the same thing. Does anyonw have any good reason why the article shouldn't be split? Just giving people a chance to speak up now.Warthok Talk Contribs 19:42, July 20, 2010 (UTC)
Agreed for a split, like Stormwind
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 19:52, July 20, 2010 (UTC)
I agree that as they are different topics they should be moved into different articles. (Science765 (talk) 19:53, July 20, 2010 (UTC))

Will Lordareon be reestablised in Cataclysm? Edit

Ive been wondering if in Cataclysm Lordareon will be restablished. Will it be a member of the Alliance in Cata or will it be under the control of Stormwind or under Stormwind military control or under control by the Alliance military. Or will it be a protectorate or colony of the Alliance or Stormwind? And will Lordaeron refugees their way back to Lordareon? And who will rule a possibly reborn Lordareon? Arthas sister or somebody else? And also since the nation of Theramoore is basically just a island a few military towers and one outpost and since the Alliance reclaimed part of Andorhall and some of Lordaerons territorty didnt fall to the Scourage and also the Alliance will probably reclaim more territory from the former western plaguelands by the time Cata is launched so I think the possible reborn Lordareon will have enough land to consitute a kingdom. Rimor Conscientia (talk) 03:13, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

The kingdom of Lordaeron is done. It's not coming back. The territory belongs to the Forsaken. And any remaining members are either with Stormwind or another human nation now. User:Coobra/Sig4 04:26, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

EditEdit

Hasn't a lot of content been lost with this edit? Like the table of leader, etc...

IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 19:33, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

I already replaced the zonebox with the old version (because Lordaeron is no longer a human kingdom), but the rest seemed to be just tightening up the text. If someone else feels it should be reverted, though, go for it. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 19:41, July 20, 2010 (UTC)
Leaders' table at least. I start reading the rest
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 19:43, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

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