Talk:Mage builds
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I'd really like to see a total clean up of the talent pages starting with this one. When changes are made because of one talent they should be used as a +X sticking with the core talents that make the spec. This eliminates confusion and quickens the usefulness for new people.
I'd suggest that the sections be divided into "grinding/PvE", "PvP", "Raiding", and "Hybrids". Then sub divide these by tree, because this is what most people are after.
Grinding/PvE specs:
- ...
PvP specs:
- Frost +CS 17/0/44
- Frost +Fire 0/12/49
- ...
Raiding specs (i believe this is complete):
- Arcane/IV (43/0/11+7)
- Arcane/Pyro (43/11/0+7)
- Arcane Fire (33/28/0)
- Arcane Frost (40/0/21)
- Fire (10/47/3+1)
- Fire/IV (2/47/11+1)
- Frost (10/0/49+2)
- Frost, Deep (0/0/49+12)
- Frost/Meditation (18/0/43)
Hybrid specs:
- ...
let me know what you guys think. I'll start work on this when i get some feedback --Glypher 22:00, 23 January 2008 (UTC)Glypher 00:23, September 8, 2006 (EST)
The sample 33/18 frost build does not work, as you have to have at least 15 points in frost to get to tier 4. Two points in improved blizzard will do the trick, but then you have two points less to use on something else. I have a 35/16 frost build that has the extra two points in blizzard and only 16 points in arcane. Improved counterspell would be nice for PvP though... Blizzard with frostbite requires a slightly different approach, but it can be made to work really well and is excellent especially for WSG, where you can use rank 1 blizzard to remotely freeze and stop whole groups of players (for instance enemy flag carriers and escorts that are getting away or a group of players chasing your flag carrier).
Editted the 33/18 Frost/Arcane build to one that works. (added a point to arctic reach, removed frost channelling, and added 3 Imp Blizzard.) Kothmia 13:52, 1 June 2006 (EDT)
Most Builds are now invalid due the mage talent review in 1.11 and since AQ/Naxx fire resistance isn't an real issue anymore. Apophis 11:24, 8 Aug 2006 (MET)
I've edited this article to accommodate the Mage review in Patch 1.11. Zweihander01 00:23, September 8, 2006 (EST)
I've added a new version of a frost build for mages that fits more for those that want to go to endgame dungeons but still be able to win a few battles in battlegrounds --Angellic 15:53, 7 October 2006 (EDT)---- (Many thanks to Paladinangel of the Aszune realm for helping me find the right pinch of talents).
Can someone update this for 1.2.1? Thank you.
There are missing some lvl 70 talent builds. Does anybody know how 40/21 or 40/00/21 talent builds are made?
Perhaps a small description under each main build heading could be made for the types of gear a mage should be favouring for each set up? Ideal stats, straight +dmg vs +crit on particular builds etc
Would be great to get an update on the elementalist builds plz. I'm so tired of hearing about the 3 minute mage "I win" macros that take 0 skill. I'm sure it will be nerfed soon so I'm wanting to look into the Elementalist builds for pvp.
Updated the "Arcane Overload" 61/0/0 spec to drop 2/2 Improved Blink (worthless) for 5/5 Arcane Focus. The Arcane Overload build is definitely very viable, and has the flexibility for impressive burst DPS (second only to the three minute mage specs) with unparalleled mana-per-damage efficiency and extremely low threat generation. Kaelon 17:29, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Added "Support Raiding Frost construct" that's is a more raid centered spec than the one I have. Not sure if I should add that Permafrost and Improved Cone of Cold'd probably help with AOE packs Frostbite Q. Kelvin 02:42, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
~~ I have been using the following spec (0/50/11 - http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=oZxgMdfcIReRxbhG0o) with some success, so its a working fire spec that includes the icy veins talent... consider including it, if you will.
Icy Veins+Frostbite can actually be helpful for AOEing. If done right, you can actually maintain a bit of a buffer so you can have a higher chance of success. Basically, the swift constant damage of blizzard (with the slow added via talents) and the added chance to freeze from icy veins will help keep most mobs perma freezed whilst AOEing. -Kaelthalanor on Steamwheedle U.S.
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Leveling builds
Any knows some good leveling builds for mages? I am sick of Frost AOEing my way... --SaudiGamer 15:03, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
- OK, AOE grinding is old school. Before the revamp of quests it might have been valid at certain level ranges but its not needed anymore. In fact it is a good way to be come frustrated with your class. If you want to level fast then go fire. Five points into Improved Fireball, then five in Ignite, one for Pyroblast, two in Burning Soul, two in Flame Throwing, three in Improved Scorch, two in Inceneration, three in Critical Mass, and one in Blast Wave. That is out to 33, need more? SharlinTalk / Did 16:50, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
- Sounds good, much appreciated :) --SaudiGamer 06:47, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
The Arcane Revolution build does not have a link to a talent tree. Can someone add one?
Old, possibly irrelevant
I've noticed a handful of the builds only wind up being 51 points, and a couple of frost ones refer to 'taking ice block'- we should probably get rid of those. Also, I'd like to either see the myriad builds put onto separate pages by purpose, or the minor ones that some guy slightly modified from another one and uses removed. Evanfardreamer (talk) 09:15, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Stats for builds
It may be worth mentioning the sort of stats one should aim to stack for particular trees. I keep hearing one guildie say that he doesn't have the spell crit gear for a deep arcane build, that suggests to me that the spell crit that is sufficient for one build will see another build perform worse.
A rough idea for the % of spell crit a mage specialising in one tree or a hybrid build would be delightful. As well as perspectives on the desired weight of sheer +spell dmg and spell haste. Should a fire mage eschew crit for raw dmg for example. Legather (talk) 11:34, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
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