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Over time, the page has become bloated with everyone stuffing their ideas in. I'm going to purge redundant things and try to streamline the ideas into a more coherent page. [[User:Girion|Girion]] 10:06, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
 
Over time, the page has become bloated with everyone stuffing their ideas in. I'm going to purge redundant things and try to streamline the ideas into a more coherent page. [[User:Girion|Girion]] 10:06, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
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== Vanish and dots ==
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My raid group recently had a bug where dots killed Moroes while he was vanished, and the kill wasn't registered. As a result we were unable to start the Opera event. I have no idea if this has happened to anyone else, if so then maybe it should be mentioned somewhere. : [[User:Jackstrom|Jackstrom]] 18:46, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

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Personality

Seemed to have retained much of his former personality; in which way? --Tinkerer 12:13, 19 February 2007 (EST)

He still thinks he's a butler. Smiley--Sky 06:06, 26 February 2007 (EST)

Gouge

"This can be countered by Spell nature tremortotem [Tremor Totem]."

Tremor totem does not remove this affect, at least as of version 2.0.8

Same here, doesnt work.
Poison cleansing totem does seem to affect blind however User:CrazyJack/Sig 03:05, 26 February 2007 (EST)

Starting at 30%, he seems to do some sort of aoe warstomp attack.. can anyone verify this? User:CrazyJack/Sig 03:21, 26 February 2007 (EST)

Did him yesterday and didn't noticed a warstomp while tanking him. --Montronax 05:57, 26 February 2007 (EST)

-- What about Free Action Potions on the tanks to prevent the initial gouge? Also has anyone tried Stratholme Holy Water to aid the AoE of clearing the room? Varonin 17:13, 5 March 2007 (EST)

Free Action Potions only prevent stuns, snares, and roots. Gouge is an incapacitate effect.
As for Holy Water, might be a good idea if you really are desperate for AoE, but even 10 being tossed at once would only be the equivalent of 1 or 2 mages over a short duration of time (1 min cooldown on the water). Most classes have SOME form of AoE, even if weak, that does more damage than the water anyway. Davivmcd 19:42, 19 April 2007 (EDT)
I suppose a Prot Paladin with Blessing of Sacrifice could avoid Gouge in that manner, as it breaks on damage. Stillfresh 17:43, 4 May 2007 (EDT)

Rogue Poisons

"You need every ounce of DPS possible for this fight, do not bother with non-damaging poisons."

Is poor advice, especially on the Warrior adds who hit leather quite hard.

A combination of Crippling/Mind-Numbing poison is superior if you have sufficient ranged DPS to kite around the priest/paladin adds, as well as provide a larger window to interrupt heals/mana burns. As long as the rogue remembers to switch back to damage poisons for Moroes there is no reason to advise against other poisons for his adds. Tempmted to remove this 'tip.' --Sekai 16:56, 27 March 2007 (EDT)

Miscellaneous Lore

I would just like to point out that Moroes was described as Weasely and he brok "cooks" crystal gems as stated in the Last Guardian not when madivh asked for one of those crystals. It had nothing to do with dishes.

Dealing with Garotte

Havent read about this anywhere, but he is a rogue. And like all rogues that are in stealth he can be trown out of it by the usual stuff. AoE is our preferred method. Positioning of shackled adds, the tanking spot and the clothies is what makes for a succesful attempt. Just make sure that on his way to the raidmember he wants to garotte he has to go through the AoE - area

Thuzad

Could you provide a screenshot of the combat logs of him being hit by AoE and "Vanish fades from Moroes" ? I was under the impression that NPC vanish was not removable by any normal method. Stillfresh 12:22, 9 April 2007 (EDT)
If DoTs from the raid keep ticking (they do I've seen this from a warlocks perspective) then I highly doubt any AoE would remove his stealth. User:Boblo-WW/Sig2 14:47, 29 May 2007 (UTC)


There is a trinket called luffa, which is a quest reward from searing gorge. It removes a bleeding effect. So if someone did not junk it, it should work here. Timorgoth 6. june 2007

You need to read patch notes more carefully. Inv fabric wool 01 [Luffa] was changed to work only on pre-60 effects long time ago. --Rowaasr13 09:46, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

We used the following method for dealing with garottes when our shadow priest was available. Before the fight, put the shadow priest in his/her own group. As people are garotted, put them in the group with the shadow priest. The healing that the priest does as he/she damages Moroes is almost enough to keep garotted poeple alive. An occassional full heal on these people and they should stay up for the whole fight. Robert804 21:33, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't think any item in the game can remove this effect. If there is please link it.

Intervene?

Okay so my guild is having some trouble with Moroes mainly the garrotes getting on the healers. I'm just wondering as off tank if i can intervene one of our 4 healers to see if i can take the garrote instead of them getting it. This is just one simple question feel free to edit it strait in =P. This would make this fight a lot easier with the only the tanks and offtanks have garrotes and not the healers. I've been trying this but never have seemed to pull it off or get lucky enough anyway.

I did a clean, quick intervene on one of his longer vanishes, and when he garroted that healer later, I plainly saw my intervene buff remain on him, along with his garrote debuff. I was not already garroted at the time. Intervene does NOT stand in for garrote, and I've removed the tip from the article. --Falos 06:19, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Blind

The article says that Blind is cast on the second-highest on the aggro-list, but my impression is that Moroes cast Blind randomly on someone in melee range. Can anybody confirm this? Benhoof 04:46, 9 April 2007 (EDT)

Difficult to say, I'll try to have our rogue(s) keep a look out for it. We almost always see it on the OT, but that may just be luck. Stillfresh 12:20, 9 April 2007 (EDT)

I think you might've been just lucky; I was meleeing down the Baron last night and hadn't touched Moroes yet when he blinded me, then went back to the two tanks. It seems like a proximity-triggered move. Ashtongue 17:49, 16 April 2007 (EDT)

It is absolutely NOT the second-highest on the aggro list. It may possibly be the second closest target in melee range. I've been blinded (as a hunter) without doing a single point of damage to him yet, just by standing nearby. Considering the OT should be standing closest to him at most times however, it makes sense that he would get blinded most of the time. Davivmcd 19:26, 19 April 2007 (EDT)

Adds

Under the addlist its stated that the adds are actual npcs in Darkshire. Is that true, I cant seem to remember them. (Keilden 15:57, 7 May 2007 (EDT))

thottbot says no. they may all have relatives there though, run a check on last names in thottbot.User:Reskar/Sig

Can we remove the nonsense about diminishing returns in PVE? One editor's claims of first hand experience on an unrelated encounter do not impress me and is not supported by actual experience in this encounter. More likely than not, his experience in this fight that lead him to believe there are diminishing returns was due to one or both of two factors: unlucky early breaks, or cleanses from the other mobs. The inclusion of contradictory information (one passage advising priests to re-shackle every 5 seconds, another saying watch out for diminishing returns) like this can waste a lot time for those who rely on this site for guiding information. The adds are simply not subjectable to diminishing returns on Shackles, traps, or Turn Undead (yes stuns do have diminishing returns.) Several months of doing this instance, I have never seen an add go immune.

I've revamped the add table because it was bugging me that the list of their abilities was incomplete and not precise, now adding more of them and linking them with the corresponding ability entries. I'm not 100% certain about their abilities (most of them were taken from different sources, backed up by my own observations as good as possible), but it seems they all come with three of them. A few things still need to be investigated, such as:
- Third ability of Daris
- All abilities of Crispin (apparently noone really bothers about him)
- Do both paladins really cast the same type of blessing? Rondaru 09:44, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

My guild usually kites Moroes's adds out of the room once he is dead to get them to despawn. On 2 August 2007 the adds followed us all the way to the instance entrance (we exited) and stood there for about 30 seconds. They then teleported back to their original locations. We killed them after distributing Moroes's loot so I don't know if we needed to kill them in order to unlock the Opera event. Has anyone else been seening this? If so the Moroes page should probably be edited to reflect the change in behavior. Lxs 20:42, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Turn undead

Paladins turn undead ability is a very good CC here. However, lately I managed to fear one add out of the room where the encounter starts and suddenly all other adds disappeared. Moroes did not disappear... --Thundor 14:09, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Cleaning Up

Over time, the page has become bloated with everyone stuffing their ideas in. I'm going to purge redundant things and try to streamline the ideas into a more coherent page. Girion 10:06, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Vanish and dots

My raid group recently had a bug where dots killed Moroes while he was vanished, and the kill wasn't registered. As a result we were unable to start the Opera event. I have no idea if this has happened to anyone else, if so then maybe it should be mentioned somewhere. : Jackstrom 18:46, 29 August 2007 (UTC)