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Scarlet Crusade crusade Edit

"and the living dare not tread on the frozen continent, especially after a disastrous expedition of the Scarlet Crusade." where does it say that the crusade ever went to Northrend? --TM41

I don't know where it says an expedition, but I do know that on a few of the statues in Herod's room it says they vanished in Northrend. -- Maenos 12:44, 25 October 2006 (EDT)
The Lands of Conflict sourcebook mentions this attempt of a large scale counter-assault. You might want to read up on it in the Scarlet Crusade article. -- Tulon 18:30, 28 July 2007

Sneak peek? Edit

I was playing the game as usual today, and I zoomed out to what is quickly being termed the "astral map" (the one with Azeroth and Outland), and I noticed something. A big, white continent, partially covered by clouds, taking up the top of Azeroth. It looks suspiciously (okay, exactly) like Northrend.

Of course, the map of Azeroth used in that astral map is also (if you look very closely) the old, pre-patch 2.0.1 map. Hmmmmmm.

How about you sign your posts? --Mesethusela (talk) 21:52, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Kel'thuzad's room Edit

In Kel'thudaz room, there is a few portals(doors?) to snowy place. Could that be Northrend?

I've been to Kel'thuzad's room too, and I saw all the snow and with Naxxramas being in Eastern Plaguelands, I knew something was going on. The scenery wasn't recognizable at all, and I don't think Kel'thuzad would be in the middle of Dun Morogh or Alterac, so It's hinting that it's somewhere in Northrend. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.244.4.3 (talk · contr). 23:49, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Those portals spawn Crypt Lords called Guardians of Icecrown, which I think clearly answers the question. Raze 11:49, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

those are windows that have portals at their location when u teleport from the main naxxaramis part you go to northrend i believe Scorpx3 21:09, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Second Expansion? Edit

files in the 2.1 PTR show some scenery models from the Howling Fjord, under the title Expansion 02, which points to Northrend as the next WoW expansion. --Adonzo 12:07, 28 April 2007 (EDT)

For what it's worth, the expansion02 assets were removed from the live 2.1 patch, but a handful of items labeled for northrend are still there. Suzaku 04:55, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
I don't think that the fact that there's something going on in the datafiles necessarily means that it's the next thing released. Maps and game objects of the Emerald Dream have been in the data files for a very long time. They were even updated during patches 1.3.0 and 1.5.0! Today (2.1.1), they are still in the datafiles, but Blizzard haven't released the zone yet. Privatekey 12:40, 19 June 2007 (UTC)


Furbolg pandasEdit

In the pandaren article, it says that there are a certain type of pandaren that resemble furbolgs that live in Northrend. Do we know if Blizzard will put them in the new expansion? Mr.X8 02:47, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Kalimdor=Northrend Edit

Yeah ummmm, if Northrend Came from Kalimdor, then all the races did. And ummm, here are my theories:

Furbolg=Northren Furbolgs
Centaur=Magnataur?
Taunka=Tauren
Quillboars?, Wildkin?=Tuskarr
Those Moa things=Panguin?
Elves=Vrykal?
Pandaren=Panda Furbolgs?
Harpies=Gargoyles?

And more.... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Quinn' Tonstern (talk · contr).

Harpies were cursed Night Elves, Taunka are a genetic offshoot of Tauren, Vrykal are giants and Night Elves either evolved from Trolls or were Azotha that settled closely to the Well. Owlkin were creatures created by Elune to protect areas. Northrend was part of the giant Kalimdor landmass but so was the Eastern Kingdoms continent. So of course there will be some similarities in creatures which had to adapt to the colder continent after the Sundering. Leviathon 17:20, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Vrykul may look like giants but they're actually related to humans. They were meant to be azotha but somehow went wrong, a bit like troggs and earthen. Jormungand01 (talk) 13:03, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

About getting started Edit

I haven't read anywhere that the Burning Crusade expansion will be required to play WotLK, but assuming that the beginning quests really are tuned for level 68 characters like Blizz claims, wouldnt that make it impossible for players who only have classic WoW who upgrade to WotLK to get started? TheatreStyle 08:12, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Not impossible, just very difficult. Level 60 mobs continue to give experience until the late 60s, and there are level 67 and 68 mobs in front of Karazhan. That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if Wrath of the Lich King includes the Burning Crusade so people aren't forced to by another expansion just to play this one. -- Dark T Zeratul 08:19, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
I think that's unlikely. First of all, Blizzard will want to continue making money from TBC. Secondly, all "hardcore" WoW players will be level 70 now. Players who play less frequently and don't have TBC yet, they will buy TBC and then it will take them a long time to level up from 60-70. Only then will they think about buying WotLK. It's not like people will be having to buy TBC and WotLK at the same time. Kidburla 00:13, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Theoretically it's possible, since there may be stuff restricted to WotLK that's available from 1-60, like Inscription. Kirkburn  talk  contr 04:18, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Note: WotLK will not be playable without TBC ([1]). Kidburla 20:47, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

"Unlike Outland, there will be no minimum-level requirement to enter Northrend."Edit

More like "Unlike the Dark Portal". Their was no minimum-level requirement for Outland, just the Dark Portal. In other words, all my lowbie alts are all saved to Shat's Inn and can easily warp anywhere to level in the old world which wasn't against the rules. I asked about this a lot, if you use a Shat Portal from a mage or get summoned by a Warlock and even if you're under lvl 55, it's ok. The Innkeeprs don't have a level requirement which is evil and lets anyone with the ability to PST a Warlock or Mage in their guild a hearth to a city wirth portals to all the old major cities. --IconSmall DeathknightBuraisu (Talk · Contr) 18:14, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Getting there Edit

I've heard of a Zeppelin ride from Undercity, and a harbor for Stormwind (my friend is obsessed with new info for Wrath), but I really haven't heard anything on how to get there from Kalimdor. Any idea? Seth

Take a look at the patch notes... There's ships from SW and Menethil, zeps from Org and UC. --k_d3 07:18, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Wow, only one way to get there from Kalimdor? That seems to show that Blizzard favors Azeroth on ways to get to new content... Seth

Guild of Eternal page not a source Edit

I don't see how Guild of Eternal Night Northrend lore constitutes a legitimate source. I'm going to remove it. If there is some justification (like a Blizzard source pointing to it as helpful), then it can be added back. --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 2:20 PM PST 11 Aug 2008

Merged Map Edit

I don't know if you might want to add this. I've created a "Wallpaper" with the merged map of northrend.
Wallpaper Wow-Complete
Bardiir (talk) 21:55, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
Good work, too bad that Wintergrasp and Borean Tundra are being squized...
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 22:09, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
Yeah the ratio of those maps is slightly different. Storm Peaks is squeezed a bit too but horizontally...
Bardiir (talk) 22:36, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

History! Edit

Does anyone have any idea what northrend was like before war of the spider, for all the other groups like how did the humans live there? Was there a human Capital for northrend? Terrorblades (talk) 19:16, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

The only information about the humans of Northrend is a reference to "a remote human settlement on the fringe of the vast Dragonblight" on page 34 of the Warcraft III manual, a vague mention by Commander Mograine during the Old Hillsbrad Ashbringer event, and a (fictional) early WotLK preview that mentioned Wintergarde Keep being related to a city of the human Northrend colonists called "Northgarde".--SWM2448 19:25, April 24, 2010 (UTC)
Ah, ok about this mention by Mograine does he say the same thing about a remote settlement? In the intro to the Human Campaign they call it the “Northlands” (this is of course not before the war of the spider but to me it sounds like “Northlands” was a nation with some wealth and power). And the Kirin Tor had an eye there so it should have been some people there. And from War of the spider to WCIII there is like 10-15 years and if remote settlement turns to “Northlands” I don’t know what to make of it. Terrorblades (talk) 20:08, April 24, 2010 (UTC)
I think it was just short for "the northern lands" and not meant to be an actual settlement name. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 20:12, April 24, 2010 (UTC)
Mograine says Northrend. I thought "Northlands" was an informal name for the area around Stratholme, but it might be Northrend, or both.--SWM2448 20:14, April 24, 2010 (UTC)
Hmm I didn’t think of it like that, hmm maybe that’s what they meant. Well Kel'Thuzad lurking around, so that might be right. Terrorblades (talk) 20:21, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reason Northrend was not changed by Cataclysm. Edit

Was the reason Northend wasn't affected by Cataclysm because it was where almost everything concerning the last expansion happened and is it because Blizz would not have been able to make its 2010 release date for Cata because imagining changes and actually changed Northrend and implementing and doing all that rendering would make a 2010 release date impossible. Rimor Conscientia (talk) 06:46, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

No, the reason it wasn't changed is that it's brand new content and the point of the expansion is to remake the old content to make it as good as the new content. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 07:23, July 11, 2010 (UTC)
Furthermore, what would be the point of improving Northrend? We just just spent the last two years kicking ass and taking names there. Why do we need to place some drive to go there? Also, it isn't really a 2010 release date. It would be more accurate to say it's "a 2010 release date if it's ready". If it ain't ready, it ain't getting released in 2010. Tanooki1432 (talk) 04:22, July 13, 2010 (UTC)!!

Name wordplay Edit

Is it not that Northrend is a word play for "Northern End"? --KevzMarz (talk) 06:27, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Probably not. Northrend is made up of "North" and "rend" which more indicates how dangerous it can be. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 13 Aug 2011 5:02 PM Pacific

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