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==Morgoth==
 
==Morgoth==
 
Sargeras seems to be extremely similar to Morgoth from LotR. Both are supreme dark lords, with innumerable legions at their command. They are both one of the creators but fell into evil early on. And they have both been banished from the world but have left a servant to carry on their dark legacy. Furthermore in just about every battle the forces of good gave been pushed almost to the brink of defeat yet somehow prevail, although that may be just to make the story more exciting. Thoughts anyone? {{Sig|name=Jormungand01|nick=|title=|web=|icon=IconSmall_Rogue.gif|style=|ustyle=|tstyle=|cstyle=|wstyle=}} 18:37, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 
Sargeras seems to be extremely similar to Morgoth from LotR. Both are supreme dark lords, with innumerable legions at their command. They are both one of the creators but fell into evil early on. And they have both been banished from the world but have left a servant to carry on their dark legacy. Furthermore in just about every battle the forces of good gave been pushed almost to the brink of defeat yet somehow prevail, although that may be just to make the story more exciting. Thoughts anyone? {{Sig|name=Jormungand01|nick=|title=|web=|icon=IconSmall_Rogue.gif|style=|ustyle=|tstyle=|cstyle=|wstyle=}} 18:37, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
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==Posible End Game(End of WoW) Boss?==
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Yeah i know its a bit silly and he is a Titan/God but is there a way too defeat him like Kil'Jaden, still he was defeated in the Battle of Ancients, and gul'dan wanted too steel his eye, aswell as Ilidan but the possibility too be Reincarnated too repet history ? Well this came in mind from the poll with "Which boss do you want too defeat" and many voted for Sargeras. (Entaro Adun)

Revision as of 19:12, 11 November 2008

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Sargeras article.

Previous discussions: Talk:Sargeras/Archive1

What no Brox?!

Not a single note about his fight with Brox? I'm still making my way through The Demon Soul, but I saw this on his page and was surprised not seeing a note about it on this page! -Rovdyr 16:57, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, it wasn't much of a personal fight, but it would be sensible to include some mention of that event. Kirkburn  talk  contr 20:47, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
In Sargeras's point of view, it probably wasn't that important, but as a significant event it should be mentioned. --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 00:30, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Not important? If I remember the story correctly, Brox wounding Sargeras' leg was vital, as it allowed Krasus to cast a spell distracting him long enough for the portal to be closed. That wouldn't bother Sargeras? --OseTalkz / Contribz 20:01, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
I think this is a unique event, not many mortal has been accounted for wounding Sargeras(Demon Soul can't even affect him by the way).--Malygos (talk) 11:06, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
The wound itself probably wouldn't bother him much - to him it was only a scratch. He would be more angry with Krasus, who caused him to lose his concentration.  Jormungand01 IconSmall Rogue (talk - contr) 18:39, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Background Legends

I'm confused here- I only just saw the second version. What's the relation between the two? Is it a retcon? --Amro 11:17, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Later on the article says it was a retcon- I guess the first section should be clarified to show that. --Amro 12:04, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, actually both versions appear as legends within the "in-universe" lore. The "retcon" is only a retcon from our point of view, I.E, the official 'what actually happened' telling. From an in-universe point of view they are just various interpretations by different authors/historians. Its not much different tha how in our own world you could read multiple variations of greek mythology, or five or more variations of the King Arthur legend.Baggins 19:55, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Powers

I'd like to object to the removal of my additions to the powers section. What I added was offical information from shadows & light. I didn't put citations there as, well, none of the other information in that section is cited.Tweak the Whacked 03:37, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Additions are fine as long citations are made. That is citations should always be made.Also I didn't get a chance to look at your additions, but unless you didn't, try to paraphrase the content so that game mechanics aren't portrayed. I.E. Give lore intent, but not specifics of RPG game play. Sandwichman can give you some examples of S&L paraphrases if you need it.Baggins 02:14, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Creating demons?

WHAT? Unless I'm very much behind the retcons, the conflicting stories are about eredar, not demons in general. Is there a citation for how he never encountered demons in the new lore? --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 12:59, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Sargares ever be Confrunted again ?

I was wondering will Saragaras be a Raid boss or just interaction with him, if i remember The Tomb of Sargaras contained wats left of his power" The Eye" which Ilidan stole from the Tombs, but is he decesed or still alive ? DarckArchon

Re: Sargeras ever be Confrunted again ?

Sargeras isn't 'alive' or 'dead'. He simply 'is'. You can't kill a god.

And besides, to seriously take on Sargeras, Blizzard would have to increase the raid member cap to over 1000, and raise the level so that one player can solo Kil'Jaeden in the Sunwell.

So, it's extremely unlikely that Sargeras will be killable in-game.

Kirkyboy (talk) 18:46, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

He's not technically a god, because he's not worshipped by anyone. He should really be called a demigod, or even just a titan. And we've already seen that both can be killed. In the event of a raid encounter it seems likely that he will be somehow weakened prior to being attacked.  Jormungand01 IconSmall Rogue (talk - contr) 18:37, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Morgoth

Sargeras seems to be extremely similar to Morgoth from LotR. Both are supreme dark lords, with innumerable legions at their command. They are both one of the creators but fell into evil early on. And they have both been banished from the world but have left a servant to carry on their dark legacy. Furthermore in just about every battle the forces of good gave been pushed almost to the brink of defeat yet somehow prevail, although that may be just to make the story more exciting. Thoughts anyone?  Jormungand01 IconSmall Rogue (talk - contr) 18:37, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Posible End Game(End of WoW) Boss?

Yeah i know its a bit silly and he is a Titan/God but is there a way too defeat him like Kil'Jaden, still he was defeated in the Battle of Ancients, and gul'dan wanted too steel his eye, aswell as Ilidan but the possibility too be Reincarnated too repet history ? Well this came in mind from the poll with "Which boss do you want too defeat" and many voted for Sargeras. (Entaro Adun)