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| + | The '''Theramore Elite Guard''' is the royal guard of [[Jaina Proudmoore]]. They were presumed to be her personal [[knight]]s who had served her through the [[Third War]]. Their function was to protect the Lady.<ref>{{ref book |author= DeCandido, Keith R.A. |authorlink= Keith R.A. DeCandido |title= [[Cycle of Hatred]] |isbn= 978-0-7434-7136-7 |pages=143}}</ref> The Elite Guard was sent to [[Northwatch]] by Chamberlain [[Kristoff]], while the Lady was away, and engaged the [[Horde]] in a short skirmish that attempted to lay siege to the keep but was stopped by the timely arrival of Warchief [[Thrall]]. They are presumed to have resumed their duties as royal guards for Jaina. |
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| − | The Scourge is a faction of the Undead, not a race.--[[User:FeldmanSkitzoid|FeldmanSkitzoid]] 21:03, 7 Mar 2005 (EST) |
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| + | They are, however, absent from ''[[World of Warcraft]]''. |
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| − | Agreed. It should be removed from the race listing. [[User:Saimdusan|Saimdusan]] 01:10, 15 June 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | They could be the new name of the [[Kul Tiras Elite Corps]] seen in the Warcraft III campaign [[Cry of the Warsong]]. And the two knights accompanying Jaina in [[Where Wyverns Dare]] are presumed to be part of the Guard. |
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| − | I noticed that the races included in the Scourge are quite diverse but interestingly do not include Orcs. I seem to remember Arthas and Kel'thuzad slaughtering the remnants of the Blackrock clan in Lordaeron back in WC3. Does it not make sense that they would raise their remains and encorporate them into the Scourge as well? --([[User:Julzwinfield|Julzwinfield]] 10:26, 20 August 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | :It would make sense, but we've never seen Scourge agents who were clearly undead orcs. --[[User:Ragestorm|<span style="border-bottom:1px dotted; cursor:help;" title="Admin">Ragestorm</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Ragestorm|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Ragestorm|contr]])</small> 03:21, 21 August 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | ::There was an undead half-orc and an orc ghoul in the scourge in Manual of Monsters, and I think there was discussion of some in the short stories in one of the other books as well. But they seem rare. In most cases you couldn't tell much difference if they are skeletal scourge, except an orc would probably appear bulkier... But on the other hand scourge skeletons and ghouls appear exaggerated anyways...[[User:Baggins|Baggins]] 03:28, 21 August 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | :::Don't forget the tusks. --[[User:Ragestorm|<span style="border-bottom:1px dotted; cursor:help;" title="Admin">Ragestorm</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Ragestorm|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Ragestorm|contr]])</small> 03:29, 21 August 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | It talks about that the Forsaken have let undead orcs into the apothecary society, so that means there has to be some, somewhere, I think |
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| − | [[User:Mr.X8|Mr.X8]] 02:10, 25 August 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | Havent you guys played the Night elf campaign in TFT (The 2nd level) where in an optional quest you put to rest some orcs (Don't they look skeletal to you?)--[[User:The last Alterac|The last Alterac]] 10:52, 26 October 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | :They weren't part of the Scourge. --[[User:Ragestorm|<span style="border-bottom:1px dotted; cursor:help;" title="Admin">Ragestorm</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Ragestorm|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Ragestorm|contr]])</small> 12:09, 26 October 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | Well, canonically Liches are Warlocks of the Shadowmoon clan thus orcs --[[User:N'Nanz|N'Nanz]] 12:33, 26 October 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | :You raise a rather effective point. But I reiterate that the ones at the Broken Isles were not Scourge aligned. Judging by the appearance of Liches, their skeletal structure has been altered- but they are still technically undead orcs. --[[User:Ragestorm|<span style="border-bottom:1px dotted; cursor:help;" title="Admin">Ragestorm</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Ragestorm|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Ragestorm|contr]])</small> 17:53, 26 October 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | The first Liches that was created alongside the Lich King were Orcs, but not all Liches existing today are former Orcs. As you know, there are Human Liches aswell, such as [[Kel'Thuzad]] and [[Ras Frostwhisper]].--[[User:Odolwa|Odolwa]] 20:04, 26 October 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | I have another interesting point: Ner'zhul was an orc!!! :D --[[User:N'Nanz|N'Nanz]] 11:20, 27 October 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | I just said those were undead orcs. I never said any thing about the scourge--[[User:The last Alterac|The last Alterac]] 09:55, 31 October 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | :The matter is that you are on the Scourge talking page... --[[User:N'Nanz|N'Nanz]] 18:07, 2 November 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | Cant we just put undead Humanoids?Because there are probuly a lot more races undead.Such as Gnomes,Dwarves,Yetis.Blood elves?Orcs?{{User:Airiph/sig}} 01:55, 31 December 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | Not just humanoids can become Undead, and thus, members of the Scourge - just look at Frost Wyrms, Crypt Lords, and Crypt Fiends. Any race that was living can die, and can then also be brought back with Necromancy. EDIT: Oh, and Orcs are definately in the Scourge. Its led by one, as brought up by N'Nanz.[[User:Torturer(OldStyle)|Torturer(OldStyle)]] 15:23, 14 January 2008 (UTC) |
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| − | I think its also intresting to note there are no signs of demons (yet) being raised despite there were alot of 'em during the second invasion. |
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| − | Though it makes sense they have (or created) an immunity for being raised, incase their ''pets'' would turn against them. ([[User:Duke Ragereaver|Duke Ragereaver]] 14:33, 26 January 2008 (UTC)) |
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| − | dreadlods can be necromancers,so they are probuly part of them{{User:Airiph/sig}} 18:36, 26 January 2008 (UTC) |
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| − | :I doubt it. The Burning Legion and the Scourge don't get along. I can't see Ner'zhul allowing demons into the Scourge, especially demons as cunning, deadly, and potentially traitorous as the nathrezim. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 19:38, 26 January 2008 (UTC) |
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| − | [[Balnazzar]]?{{User:Airiph/sig}} 19:43, 26 January 2008 (UTC) |
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| − | :Well technically the majority of the orc liches are built from the human bones of the death knights, IIRC. Not sure if we have seen any specific liches that have actual orc bones, or not. Possibly the lich in MoM, but I'm not sure.[[User:Baggins|Baggins]] 19:58, 26 January 2008 (UTC) |
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| − | All the scourg is is dead people, so there is probuly a lot we havnt seen.Probuly even dead kobolds!{{User:Airiph/sig}} 20:00, 26 January 2008 (UTC) |
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| − | Well, technically some scourge are still living, or at least on their way to becoming undead. Some death knights, their trainees, some acolytes, some necromancers, most members of the Cult of the Damned, etc. |
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| − | If skeletal orcs (raised from the dead) exist, then we can assume that it is possible to bring orcs back as undead and that the Scourge has done so. They have killed orcs, and they raise corpses when they kill. What would have stopped them form raising orc corpses? [[User:Makesfolkslose|Makesfolkslose]] ([[User talk:Makesfolkslose|talk]]) 02:28, 6 November 2008 (UTC) |
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| − | :I wouldn't think anyone in the Scourge is a "member race" like the Alliance or Horde. The Scourge just takes anything they can and turns it undead. I don't think they have meetings where the Lich King asks individual "leaders" what plans they should come up with next. It is more like "former races" who are now Scourge. [[User:Rolandius|Rolandius]] [[Image:Paladin.gif|25px]] <small>([[User talk:Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Talk">talk</span>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Contributions">contr</span>]])</small> 03:12, 6 November 2008 (UTC) |
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| − | == This picture I found on this site (and a hell lot of places) == |
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| − | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Scourge.jpg |
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| − | I have seen this image in a lot of places (I think it is called the Infinite Army?). (Example Dark Ages Of Warcraft. I remember mentioning Azeroth wars strategy its another wc3 custom game like it. (The genre it is in is either called other or I love Ironflinch (I did a poll on a forum called wc3diplo.org to name the genre that had the second most votes))--[[User:The last Alterac|The last Alterac]] 10:15, 6 November 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | And what are you trying to say with this?--[[User:Odolwa|Odolwa]] 13:33, 6 November 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | I see that picture in alot of places--[[User:The last Alterac|The last Alterac]] 21:24, 6 November 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | :yea it's good fanart. I believe blizzard has used it themselves a few times.{{User:Warthok/Sig}} 15:27, 14 January 2008 (UTC) |
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| − | It shows Arthas in a victory pose, like a leader who tries to encourage his forces. But you dont need to encourage an army of mindless undead. That's why I don't really like this picture. [[User:Oberscht|Oberscht]] ([[User talk:Oberscht|talk]]) |
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| − | == Major Faction == |
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| − | I was browsing the Alliance and Horde page, and I noticed in comparison the lore rich scourge is lacking on this page. I think Strengths and Weaknesses should be added. |
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| − | Strengths: |
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| − | Nearly endless number: Self explanatory, if not, necromancy. |
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| − | Obedience: Other then the forsaken, all undead will follow the Lich King's order's without question. |
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| − | Variety: Spider, Gargoyles, Dragons, oh my. |
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| − | Weaknesses: |
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| − | Holy Magic: easily takes them down. |
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| − | Lack of Free Will: Can't act on their own or adapt easily. |
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| − | That's all I can think of at this second, but it should be added onto the page, the scourge may not be playable but it is still a major faction, especially with WotLK. |
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| − | Rannulf 04:30, 26 March 2008 (UTC) |
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| − | == RP? == |
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| − | This might be abit of topic, but dose any one have any tip's on how to RP as a memmber of the Scourge? |
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| − | [[User:TerrorBlades|TerrorBlades]] ([[User talk:TerrorBlades|talk]]) 18:08, 29 September 2008 (UTC) |
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| − | I dont see any way to RP a member of the Scourge. Either you are a mindless undead, so you have to stay away from every civilization, use only grunts and sometimes a "braaaains", and level up with grinding mobs only, or you are an agent of the Cult of the Damned, but these are top secret, and they dont reveal themselves, so you have nobody to RP with. [[User:Oberscht|Oberscht]] ([[User talk:Oberscht|talk]]) 01:12, 3 December 2008 (UTC) |
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| − | They're not all mindless. Many of the higher ranking undead do actually have minds of their own and they willingly serve the Lich King. There's also the death knights who are still with the Scourge - perhaps one of these could have infiltrated the Knights of the Ebon Blade. But yes I agree that anything of that sort would have to remain secret, so you would be very limited in your choice of people to RP with. {{User:Jormungand01/sig}} 18:24, 30 December 2008 (UTC) |
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| − | I have more information on Scourge role-playing on my talk page, but to role-play well as Scourge you need to point out that your with the Scoure (either subtly of just plain out in the open) and role something that looks dead or could fit into a side-story for lore on your character (For instance, I have yet to see a Turen on the Side of the Scourge). --[[User:Morec of Gilneas|Morec of Gilneas]] ([[User talk:Morec of Gilneas|talk]]) 20:11, 4 January 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | == Command structure and notable allies == |
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| − | Needs a major overhaul, if not a complete removal. Both this one and the one on [[Burning Legion]] have turned from an attempt at a ranking tree into what essentially amounts to a list of every member that people want to see mentioned, in a vaguely rank-oriented order. I also must point out that given the mindless nature of most of the Scourge's minions, it is possible they don't even have a real rank system. Tangental to this, I think that we should purge the word "notable" from our table headers- some apparently read "notable" as "any character you think is cool and should be on this table". So, any thoughts? --[[User:Ragestorm|<span style="border-bottom:1px dotted; cursor:help;" title="Admin">Ragestorm</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Ragestorm|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Ragestorm|contr]])</small> 16:15, 30 December 2008 (UTC) |
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| − | I agree with you. It's important to only keep the important persons on the tree, because else it will get far too chaotic (as it is now). For example, there is no need to have a little irrelevant mob like Eyes of Dar'Khan on the tree.--[[User:WoWWiki-Odolwa|WoWWiki-Odolwa]] ([[User talk:WoWWiki-Odolwa|talk]]) 17:25, 30 December 2008 (UTC) |
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| − | So is Scourge a race too because I think I have seen it on some NPC's articles. Also, is "Scourged" a race because there seem to be a lot of former animals and soldiers with "Scourged" in their name and otherwise there isn't a good "race" name for some of them. [[User:Rolandius|Rolandius]] [[Image:Paladin.gif|25px]] <small>([[User talk:Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Talk">talk</span>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Contributions">contr</span>]])</small> 13:35, 12 April 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | :''Why'' is it a race? I do not think it is at all. If it is in their name, it just means they are a part of it. Scourged is the adjective form of Scourge. As in "You got Scourged, now you are undead."--{{User:Sandwichman2448/Sig}} 01:32, 13 April 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | ::Why is it a race? I don't know, that is what I am asking. I think there are some NPCs I saw on here that had it as their race because I am guessing they didn't look like any other current race? With Scourged, I was just wondering why some NPCs called Scourge somethings while other NPCs are called Scourged somethings. I guess it is the same thing though, just an adjective. [[User:Rolandius|Rolandius]] [[Image:Paladin.gif|25px]] <small>([[User talk:Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Talk">talk</span>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Contributions">contr</span>]])</small> 02:37, 13 April 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | :::Well if you look at it this way: there's a difference between "Scourge Footman" and "Scourged Footman". If you don't understand that, I'm afraid I can't help you. --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 09:36, 13 April 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | So I was at a gaming site today, and someone had made a big picture of Icecrown Citadel. Now, as I watched a banner of the Scourge, I noticed that the logo had changed slightly from the old banner logo. Shouldn't WoWWiki make a new topic picture for The Scourge then, perhaps? [[User:Azkaner|Azkaner]] ([[User talk:Azkaner|talk]]) 18:53, 1 May 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | :What is this new image?--{{User:Sandwichman2448/Sig}} 20:11, 1 May 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | ::Well if you go to Icecrown Citadel, or go here: http://www.wegame.com/view/IcecrownCitadel you'll notice that the Scourgebanner has chagned slightly, bu that I mean that they extended the length of the Runeblade and removed some of the weapons. [[User:Azkaner|Azkaner]] ([[User talk:Azkaner|talk]]) 17:20, 2 May 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | :::The WotLK vertion of the one on the page now is mirrored on both sides (I assume for texturing reasons).--{{User:Sandwichman2448/Sig}} 17:53, 2 May 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | :::I finally saw what you were talking about. Yes it is sort of new. I'll try and get a screenshot.--{{User:Sandwichman2448/Sig}} 22:25, October 27, 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | I've been doing some thinking on a subject i dont think anyone's touched on yet, and i'd like to draw opinions to this question; If the Lich King finally is finally destroyed, what will happen to the rest of the Scourge? Will all the zombies just drop dead with their master, or will they still be around in some form during the events of WoW: Cataclysm? {{User|JPlowman2}} 10:19, 27 Oct 2009 (UTC))) |
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| − | :Since the Forsaken are no longer bound by the Lich King and haven't ceased to be, my guess is they'll simply continue on as they are. Mindless undead like skeletons or ghouls will just rampage around, and the non-mindless ones like the liches and death knights will regain their free will, for better or for worse. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 22:51, October 27, 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | :: You are forgetting there still is a Lich King; Bolvar took the Throne. So these Undeads will follow whatever mental order he sends out. They will likely disappear over the years, but I doubt they would just topple over... [[User:Wolfstorm11|Wolfstorm11]] ([[User talk:Wolfstorm11|talk]]) 23:29, April 16, 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | :::I think you should look at when the question was asked... Oct 2009, ICC didn't open until Dec 2009. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 23:44, April 16, 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | :::: You are right, though the question still applies. Will there be Scourge released from the iron grasp of the Lich King by the new one? Would those able to live on and think for themselves be released from utter obedience? [[User:Wolfstorm11|Wolfstorm11]] ([[User talk:Wolfstorm11|talk]]) 23:47, April 16, 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | Well what I can tell from after seeing Beta is that Andorhall seems to be the only place beside Scoolmance that has undead controlled by a high ranking undead. The undead in what remains of Scourage controlled Andorhall are controlled by a lich. And also that lichs level is lower than before which leads me to at least two conclusions. First conclusion is that since Bolvar is the Lich King hes probably not giving any of his high ranking minions any of his power or two since Andorhall is split between three differnt factions and with the Scourage being the weakest faction there and since the level for the Western Plaguelands has been lowered, Blizz probably lowered the lich in Andorhal level probably to make it easier for lower level players to kill the Lich in Andorhal. [[User:Rimor Conscientia|Rimor Conscientia]] ([[User talk:Rimor Conscientia|talk]]) 06:23, July 11, 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | in the former members of the scourge should the dreadlords be counted amongst this because they were members before the scourge broke away from burning legion control? <small>—The preceding [[WoWWiki:Signature|unsigned]] comment was added by {{User|Zefoxspell}}.</small> 23:57, September 27, 2010 |
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The Theramore Elite Guard is the royal guard of Jaina Proudmoore. They were presumed to be her personal knights who had served her through the Third War. Their function was to protect the Lady.[1] The Elite Guard was sent to Northwatch by Chamberlain Kristoff, while the Lady was away, and engaged the Horde in a short skirmish that attempted to lay siege to the keep but was stopped by the timely arrival of Warchief Thrall. They are presumed to have resumed their duties as royal guards for Jaina.
They are, however, absent from World of Warcraft.
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This article or section includes speculation, observations or opinions possibly supported by lore or by Blizzard officials. It should not be taken as representing official lore.
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They could be the new name of the Kul Tiras Elite Corps seen in the Warcraft III campaign Cry of the Warsong. And the two knights accompanying Jaina in Where Wyverns Dare are presumed to be part of the Guard.