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Referring to WoW EventsEdit

We don't know what is canon and what isn't in Warcraft lore. Consider, for example, that Mograine Jr. in the Scarlet Monastery is killed as part of three separate questlines. Also, the phrases "agent of the Horde" and "agent of the Alliance" is extremely vague. It's much clearer and less presumptuous just to refer to game events explicitly.--Aeleas 11:10, 18 December 2006 (EST)

Let's be realistic. Danath did not mentioned Galen at all. Also, being one-faction major quest chain (that leads to his death), we have a very good reason to belive that his death is canon. Regards, --Theron the Just 07:24, 20 December 2006 (EST)

Danath's failure to mention his nephew neither confirms or denies Galen's death. Whether or not Galen is dead, Stromgarde still sucks to live in, and Danath would want to correct that. Also, I would hardly consider the quest chain that results in Galen's death to be a major one. From what I understand of WoWWiki policy, and what most people seem to agree on, is that if there is a quest line in WoW that kills an NPC, this should be noted in the article. HOWEVER, it should not be stated as fact that the NPC is dead. There are a few exceptions, but generally, until events relating to quests in WoW have been confirmed by another source, they should not be considered canon. --Mikaka 17:21, 23 December 2006 (EST)
I agree with Mikala. My edits, in my view, told the reader exactly what we know and what to expect in WoW, and nothing more. The version that the article has been reverted to by Theron is much more speculative, PoV, and unhelpful in distinguishing what occurs in WoW and what is backstory (a rather important, practical consideration).
Even if we accept Galen's death as canon, it remains to be seen how WoW events will be incorporated. I raised this issue a few months ago, here. I think this is an area which definitely requires community discussion and a guideline or policy.--Aeleas 20:32, 23 December 2006 (EST)

Agreed, this is more discussion on this in Ragestorm's talk page if your interested. Its in archive 4 I believe Baggins 20:36, 23 December 2006 (EST)

CataclysmEdit

anything confirmed about stromgarde in cataclysm? well galen is forsaken ther and ther is issue of danath's return so.. -- Menethils (talk) 09:16, Sept 21, 2010 (UTC)

FactionEdit

Well Galen Trollbane is a Forsaken and serve the Horde but Danath Trollbane would be the Alliance leader of Stromgarde. So Stromgarde would be Both Factions like this Both 32 not Neutral 32 Neutral. I have already added Forsaken. The kingdom would theirfor be afficted with Forsaken. Assey Westfall (talk) 20:05, May 20, 2013 (UTC)User:Assey WestfallAssey Westfall (talk) 20:05, May 20, 2013 (UTC)

Stromgarde is still considered under Alliance control, so far as I am aware (lore-wise). While Galen is indeed a Forsaken now, he resides at Galen's Fall and doesn't seem to be associated with Stromgarde at all anymore. To put it another way: if Varian were somehow raised as a Forsaken, it wouldn't necessarily follow that the Alliance or Stormwind would fall under Forsaken rule. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 20:46, May 20, 2013 (UTC)
I just ment that Stromgarde would have split up in Cataclysm-Logo-Small Cataclysm just like the Dark Iron clan became allied with Twilight's Hammer clan and Alliance. Galen Trollbane are still among the leaders of the Horde with the title "Prince of Stromgarde". It seem to be unlikely that he is the ONLY member of Stromgarde that have been killed and raised Forsaken. Well if Varian would became a Horde Forsaken many other Humans of Stormwind would became Forsaken and follow him and recalim Stormwind (kingdom) for The Forsaken (if he would succed). It's not quiet likley that Stormwind (kingdom) would became under Forsaken control even if Varian would became a Forsaken beacause Alliance would control Stormwind City. BUT if Stormwind City would have been destroyed the kindom would have split up just like Stromgarde have done, the City arent even complete under Alliance controll. Cataclysm-Logo-Small "In third expansion, Galen Trollbane becomes one of the Forsaken. What this may bode for the kingdom is yet to be seen." as it written in the page. So both Galen and Danath Trollbane would be (presumed) leaders, Race would also contain IconSmall Undead MaleIconSmall Undead Female Forsaken (presumed) and Affiliation would also contain "or Forsaken (presumed)" Assey Westfall (talk) 15:32, May 21, 2013 (UTC)User:Assey WestfallAssey Westfall (talk) 15:32, May 21, 2013 (UTC)

I would still keep it as Alliance until Blizz shows otherwise. It's one of those strange kingdoms that's up in the air at this point, and if it's still a big unknown, then we should default to accepted lore rather than speculation. You can always put speculation into the article itself under its own section, but infobox details should be easily confirmed. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 16:12, May 21, 2013 (UTC)

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