Talk:Taunka

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Contents 1 Outland? 2 Picture 3 Native American Culture 4 "Horde" race? 5 Let Down 6 Hostile to all? 7 Taunka factions heading 8 Official Picture?

Outland?

Why are ancient tauren in Outland? Garrosh was always in Outland.--SWM2448 19:40, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Oh, NORTHREND. That makes scence. Sorry.--SWM2448 19:44, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

I put Outland on accident.--Ryoki 19:47, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

WTF...but also, I find it odd that the tauren were not aware of the tunka. They are all so in touch with nature and all. I think it has somthing to do with the grimtotems. There alliance with the forsaken was never resolved, as I recal.Cormundo 07:13, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

There's also an entire ocean separating them. Being in touch with nature doesn't necessarily mean knowing everything that's part of it. -- Dark T Zeratul 11:26, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Picture

A picture of the Taunka can be seen here: http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.wowinsider.com/media/2007/08/img_1560.jpg

Source: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/04/blizzcon-day-2-wow-lore-and-quests-panel-liveblog/

Apparently they are a buffalo-looking people. RogueJedi86 03:14, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Native American Culture

The picture from Blizzcon is a bit blurry but it looks as though they, like the Tauren, will be derivative of Native American culture and styles. Lets hope they remain respective as they have with the Tauren. I'd hate to see Blizz get dragged into a media war over political correctness.--Evil Iggy 10:23, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Personally, seeing as the Tauren NPC's still occasionally say "How" when you speak to them I don't think Blizzard is being too respectful. "Noble savage" comes to mind. I hope the Taunka are treated better. Mingonashoba 16:19, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

they say how? dang. Blizzard can be racist sometimes, like with the trolls, to some extent. Is there a page on blizzard and PCness.Cormundo 07:15, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Don't they say "How may I help?" Kanaru discussion 13:39, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Some NPC's say "how may I aide you" but the elder NPC's still say "how." Get an MPQ viewer, open speech-enUS.MPQ. File is Sound/Creature/TaurenMaleElderNPC/TaurenMaleElderNPCGreeting02.wav Mingonashoba 20:18, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Note how the dwarves are obviously scottish, but no-one thinks there's racist overtones there ... Kirkburn talk contr 00:41, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

That's only because Native Americans are a minority group. -Gilmat

Is "how" racist? As far as I understand, it's just a common misconception among the europeans that they used that phrase. The phrase itself isn't racist, is it? Maybe Blizzard didn't research their native american facts correctly. Xavius, with sig problems ATM.

Don't Scots count? Even when they're stereotyped? --V - Talk / Spam

I understand that the Scots are not without their stereotypes (Big beard, gruff accent, lots of drinking, etc.) that the Dwarves carry over. What I'm saying is that Native Americans have gotten it worse in history (I liked what Mingonashoba used: Noble Savage). -Gilmat

You forgot haggis! --Super Bhaal 03:57, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

WTH? the Taunka should be instant friends with the Tauren considering they are basically family. And what? "Bully the spirits?" You can't bully some of the most powerful entities in the universe... Baldr 9:34 9/12/2007

Tauren and Taunka: not instantly, no, there has been no contact between the races for thousands of years, so, while the races and their views have the same origins, they might not get along, as the Tauren shamanistic/druidic culture is based on coexistence with nature, and the Taunka (are trying to) subdue it. Of course, the Tauren already have allies/partners who are not better at all, in a way (basically all other Horde members except shamans and maybe hunters/warriors, but especially the Undead and the warlocks are rather... opposite)

Most powerful entities... The forces themselves, sure, but there have always been small portions of these powers manifested as a semi-lifeform (elementals) and those have always been subdued or fought by the races of Azeroth. ~ ŋɑϑ 10:50, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Thats a lot of big words but then these guys are whacked lol ...oh... and... the Tauren and the Undead are best of friends ATM soooooo yeah. And despite gaming, pracktice of warlock magics within the horde is basically illegal Baldr 00:17, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

In a preview I saw them casting on a wind elemental frozen in a block of ice.--SWM2448 00:23, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Wuh what? Link please! :) ~ ŋɑϑ 09:59, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

I'd say they respected the ways of shamanism but grew a bit reckless, perhaps, the tauren could lead them back to respecting the spirits like they did with the orcs, that would be nice, maybe a quest chain idea Baldr 00:27, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

It is not bully as in control, it is as in weaken them or freeze to death.--SWM2448 00:29, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

"Horde" race?

I noticed this race is categorized as a horde race, but has it been explicitly stated that they are friendly to Horde and hostile to Alliance? As there hasn't been any interaction with their Tauren cousins for ages, they might be neutral, or even hostile to everyone. ~ ŋɑϑ 09:00, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Yea, if it is just speculation then it should be removed. I haven't paid attention to info about the Taunka at all, apart from what little they showed at one presentation at blizzcon, so dunno what's out there at the moment. -- Raze 05:22, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

In any case, the expansion isn't near finished, so don't worry about it. Kirkburn  talk  contr 23:16, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Judging by the fact that the Tuskarr, a neutral faction, are "beset" by taunka i'm thinking these guys really are hostile to everyone, (which sucks).Xlel 02:55, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Just like how there will be bad Tuskarr there will be bad Taunka. But the second horde town in Borean Tundra is a Taunka (Winter Tauren) village. And so far Blizzard is still following their Blizzcon maps for towns and whatnot like they usually do. Actually I am curious where it was ever said they were 'beset' upon by the tuanka as I cannot find that in any article or the new Tuskarr page. Leviathon 02:57, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Maybe they'll be neutral to tauren.... probably not. Sssssssssssssssssssssssss For Pony! ^{{TDon't hiss at me.•CIf you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.)} 04:29, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

The "beset" comment is on the new page, i copied the text and put the actual word in italics: "The tuskarr's tribal affiliation is evidenced by the sigils inscribed on their tusks, and although they are a peaceful race, they are constantly beset by taunka and local murlocs." Xlel 11:47, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Ah I missed that. But just like every other race in the game (even the Tuskarr) there are likely going to be friendly to the horde Taunka and another group that hate everyone. The Winter Tauren village is likely a horde friendly group of them. Also I see why I couldn't find anywhere where it said they were beset by the Taunka. On the US page it just says "they are constantly beset by the Kvaldir and an arctic race of murloc-like creatures known as the Gorloc." and nothing about the Taunka. So now its a question of whether the euro site or the US site is right :p Maybe the Kvaldir are the bad Taunka. Leviathon 20:39, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Apparently the site originally said "Taunka" and "local murlocs" and it was changed to "Kvaldir" and "Gorloc", What's Blizz up to? Xlel 23:10, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

I am just going to assume the Kvaldir are maybe a group of bad Taunka or they could even be the Grimtotem of the Tuskarr or a entirely different race. Leviathon 00:03, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Let Down

It's a bit of a let-down to see Blizz went all cheap and just uses a whiteish/blue tauren skin instead of making a buffalo looking model. Mr.X8 23:11, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

He is not a taunka. You will see them in the IGN videos. I left that because some people think that.--SWM2448 23:14, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh that's good. Then we'll have to change their icons later on Mr.X8 00:48, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

If its not actually a taunka it shouldn't be in the infobox.Baggins 02:57, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Someone made an icon for them already is what I was trying to say   Mr.X8 Talk Contribs

Well that's probably a fake, though apparently not simply a recolored Tauren set . Still, they look like recolored Tauren, I recognize the male face as one of the faces you can choose from in char creation. Even if Blizz used temporary recolored textures for the Taunka in the playable BlizzCon version, I highly doubt they won't get their own models for WotLK Gold. ŋɑϑ 10:43, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Nice Mr.X8 16:32, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

I put up the picture, and yes that is the leader of the Taunka Village, all the Taunka faction members were just Tauren, my beleif is that Blizzard just used Tauren models on the Blizzcon server. Once I get my mid-term done this week, I try again to get my photoshop to work. The reason I want to use the software is to reduce file size, as I'm wowwiki doesn't want large files on their site eating up their hard drive. Even that picture I posted breaks the size limit. User:Raogrimm2

Keep in mind that what was shown at Blizzcon was preliminary. The white tauren models may indeed be placeholders. ----  Varghedin  talk / contribs 12:48, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I hope so, because, it will be kinda disappointing to see that they are able to make more than 3 draenei breeds but then got lazy to make a tauren offshot like bisons. I'm pretty sure that they will use part of the walrus model (druid acuatic aspect) thing for the Tuskarr if lazyness goes far. If not, oh please, make a BISON, not just WHITE TAUREN *points to Blizzard with the inquisitively finger of doom*. -- Ravenore, the Necroshadowmancer 17:06, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

When Zul'Aman was half finished. They used jungle troll models for the Amani. I say placeholder. Zarnks 23:13, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Hostile to all?

I don't know but from all the info I've gathered it seems the Taunka are pretty hostile. They bully the spirits and raid Alliance and Tuskarr settlements. I know they are "cousins" of the Tauren but it says Garrosh only discovered them. Seeing as the Tuskarr are going to be pro-Horde I'd think it be best to label these guys as no affiliation until Blizzard states that they are explicet allies of the Horde. ~~Aroka~~

The second horde town in Borean Tundra is a 'Winter Tauren Village' which obviously means the Taunka and so far Blizzard has stood by their Blizzcon concept maps like they always do with even all the current info. It's pretty understandable that they would bully the elements to survive in a pretty much frozen wasteland to survive but just like every other race even the Tuskarr there will be bad Taunka which are probably what the Kvaldir are (as Blizzard edited out the Taunka on the Tuskarr page). Leviathon 01:43, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Taunka factions heading

We now know of one faction, the Kvaldir, who apparently, constantly go all 'Grimtotem' on the Tuskarr's asses, but is just one faction name enough for a taunka faction heading?--Mondoblasto 00:23, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

How do you know the Kvaldir are taunka?--SWM2448 21:04, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

(Nods) Fair question! "Note that the line "...although they are a peaceful race, they are constantly beset by taunka and local murlocs." was secretly changed to "...although they are a peaceful race, they are constantly beset by the Kvaldir and an arctic race of murloc-like creatures known as the Gorloc."" "The Kvaldir are a faction of taunka that will appear in Northrend when Wrath of the Lich King is released. Not much is known about them at this time, except the fact that they are constantly waging a war against the tuskarr."--Mondoblasto 09:06, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

While it's a reasonable assumption, the fact remains that it IS just an assumption (also, the Kvaldir page is entirely a result of that assumption). The name sounds more like a Vrykul one to me. -- Dark T Zeratul 10:40, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Agree...Just read the names. Taunka, Kvaldir. They sound like differant languages to me, but I'm the crazy one....And maybe they changed it to make the Taunka neutral?Aliron 00:06, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Official Picture?

Now that they've updated the beastery, can we replace the horrid fuzzy picture of the taunka with the staff? They put up the full picture.Aliron 23:16, 27 March 2008 (UTC)