Talk:Transmute

Color or background change

The word 'Mana' on the primal transmute chart is very hard to read, due to the color of the word against the background. Can someone outline the word in white or something so it's more obvious?--Azaram 12:16, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

First time I've been back here since I asked for that. Thanks! --Azaram 11:13, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Both mana and air are unreadable User:CrazyJack/Sig 09:48, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Hm. They look ok to me, I can read both of them fine... --Azaram 03:04, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

There's a difference between able to read and having to look crosseyed while squinting at the highest contrast however. User:CrazyJack/Sig 07:12, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, but I'd have said 'it's very hard to read', in that case... like I did when I first asked someone to change the color. The colors have since been darkened and are much higher contrast now. Maybe try clearing your cache? What you're describing sounds like what I was originally complaining about... --Azaram 09:56, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

And now we're back to hard to read again. :-p --Azaram 04:59, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Transmute Mastery = Free Gold?

Okay, correct me if I'm wrong but is the 23 hour cool down the only thing preventing people from taking advantage of Transmute Mastery? From what I understand, Mastery give you the chance to create extra items when ever you use create a potion, transmute, or whatever. But Transmute is special since you can use it to change one Primal to another, aka Primal Fire to Primal Earth, with no additional cost. By going back and forth between Primals wouldn't you eventually end up with more than what you started out with? I know the chance of extra items are rare (I read somewhere it's about 15% for a single extra) but if you did this every day you could end up getting extra Primals. Considering how much Primal Airs and Primal Fires go for (20g for one on my server) would this be an unfair advantage over the other Masteries? I know when you add it up it's not that much, even if you do get a single free item one every other week that's only extra 40g to 60g a month. Considering how much money is in Outland, would this be considered an exploit or is too small amount? Even then, is it enough to make Transmute Mastery "overpowered" versus the other two? -- MasterArrow 08:40, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

You can't go 'back and forth between' primals... it's a one way trip. You go from air to fire to earth to water to air, which would take four days total. If you were extremely lucky and managed to discover primal earth to life and back, then you could go between the two of them, and hope to score on primal life... but you'd be better off farming the primals yourself. The 15% figure that gets bandied about as if it was true seems to be from observation of potion and elixir mastery; the people I've seen post their transmute results run 8-10% or less. And I have yet to get a single transmute discovery, despite doing a transmute every day.

With potion or elixir mastery, given the materials you could proc hundreds of times a day. Transmute masters get one chance every 23 hours, even with the materials to do hundreds of transmutes. I've gotten a total of maybe 10 x2 procs, and not one single more than 2, and not any at all in the last month. So no, I'd say that 'ability' is at best a non-creative use of game mechanics. Even a two step transform, say earth to water to air, costs you 20g that you could have made by doing earth to water twice and selling the water. If that procs and you get lucky with an extra air, you get another 20g, so you've at best broken even, most likely. --Azaram 09:26, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Still no procs since that last post... --Azaram 10:25, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

I went Transmutation Master and after the better part of two weeks, transmuting something almost every day, I have yet to get anything extra. I hope that Blizzard does something about that sometime this year.--Illidan Rocks 07:24, 18 February 2008 (UTC)