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The first part of this article taken from text on Wikipedia[1]. Author apparently was 'Supermorff;. --Laisren 00:25, 2 Jul 2005 (EDT)

Are we sure that picture of the Night Elves is Furion and Tyrande? that guy doesn't have antlers, and Tyrande is supposed to have dusky blue hair.--Ragestorm

Well, it's fairly obvious that at least Illidan is himself, and judging from the events of the War of the Ancients trilogy he never met with Cenarius alongside anyone but his brother and Tyrande. So whatever the differences are simply mistakes or retcons. Also, I remember Malfurion actually gained the antlers at a point in time in the trilogy: maybe this is before that time. --Pure.Wasted 20:55, 5 October 2006 (EDT)
I made that post around this time last year :-P. The image in question has since been removed. --Ragestorm 21:32, 5 October 2006 (EDT)
Among my other, numerous positive qualities, I especially pride myself on my intelligence.
...>.< --Pure.Wasted 21:56, 5 October 2006 (EDT)

Personality

I feel the personality section is highly inaccurate. Tyrande was never really all that peaceful outside of the War of the Ancients trilogy. (She spends most of WC3 taunting people.) However, I don't want to edit it again without approval. --Aldrius 21:20, 21 October 2006 (EDT)

I'd have to agree with that. Her and all Nightelves were quite violent to outlanders stepping foot on Kalimdor. To the first mission you play her in is about killing a paladin.

Sign your posts. Recall that in the same mission, she helped some furbolgs escape, and that the paladin was leading forces of creatures who looked similar to the ones who kiled Cenarius. Ten thousand years of defening a gigantic tree from the Burning Crusade, half of that with your soulmate locked in the Emerald Dream, is bound to harden anybody. That is Tyrande's true personality, the other one the mask she is required to wear.--Ragestorm 10:53, 28 October 2006 (EDT)
I think a more accurate description would be that she's a more 'righteous' person. Someone very dedicated to their job with a song sense of duty and oath. Really, the only people she shows any true compassion for in the games are the Stormrage twins. Even Shandris she keeps at arm's length. I don't belive in 'true' personalities, though. I think that events in people's lives change them... but eh. It's up to you.--Aldrius 01:43, 9 May 2007 (EDT)

She also shows compassion for Kael'thas and his people, which is notable given how most Night Elves feel about High Elves. --Austin P 11:28, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Given this past discussion, I'm just curious the addition of "occasionally rash" to the personality section and looking for clarification. Referring to releasing Illidan? Anything else? Dakhma (talk) 22:31, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

How powerful is she really?

It seems to me that the opening paragraph is rather fawning, at best unencyclopedic. Is she really one of the most powerful persons ever? Once someone confirms this, I think I'll touch up that opening paragraph so it doesn't sound quite so... fanlove. --Zerstoren 15:35, 15 January 2007 (PST)

Technically, she is the most powerful priestess in Azerothian history, and she is very important, but you're essentially right; that intro is unencyclopedic. I'll modify.--Ragestorm (talk · contr) 23:40, 15 January 2007 (EST)

Tyrande could so totally take Fandral Staghelm. --Mesethusela 04:46, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

And by that I mean she could own him in a battle. Oh yeah. --Mesethusela (talk) 02:08, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

I would think she's very powerful, considering she's able to channel the Mother Moon's power like no other, and she's had ten thousand years to work on that. She could possibly be as powerful as Malfurion, or pretty close. He channels the power of the world, she channels the moon. May not be equal, but she would be pretty damn powerful. Although I'm remaining speculative considering it hasn't been stated. But she definitely seems like she could very well be immensely powerful, at least in lore. FelbloodElf maleWarlock Mykael Mourningsun (talk) 06:14, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

High Priestess of Elune

The 2 "High Priestess of Elune" boxes are confusing. It took me a bit to figure out. We should indicate that one of the boxes is about the past. --Voidvector 21:36, 30 December 2006 (EST)

It's the same way it's done on Wikipedia and other wikis. If we had years, it would make more sense, but we don't. You'll find these [2], [3], [4] even more confusing. Dracula is an example of how it works and HM the Queen just makes the whole think ridiculous.--Ragestorm, Head Bookkeeper 23:12, 30 December 2006 (EST)

Personality mod

At the end of the first section Personality, there is a statement that reads with the possible exception of Fandral Staghelm. Although there may be friction between the two (and knowing the caring nature of Tyrande), I do believe that she would protect Fandral, as well as the rest of the Kaldorei race. I recommend that we remove this phrase. Thoughts? --Joe Christl 12:03, 17 January 2007 (EST)

Fair enough, though that statement is meant to be snide. FIY, we prefer it if you sign using your actual username. --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 19:48, 17 January 2007 (EST)
I understand the 'snide' part. However for people that aren't used to the characters, it doesn't read that way; people are reading these articles like an encyclopedia of Warcraft. I'll remove it for now, but if its desired to be left in, it should be worded differently. --Z-vap 14:47, 19 January 2007 (EST)
Fair enough.--Ragestorm (talk · contr) 16:24, 19 January 2007 (EST)

A Son?

Wikipedia lists Tyrande and Malfurion as having a son named Rodalo in Outland. Can this be checked, becuause I have no knowledge of it.

Wowhead shows no NPC by the name of Rodalo, and I do not recall a single quest in Cenarion Refuge hinting at anything of the sort. Oh, also, don't forget to sign your edits. -- Maenos 22:12, 18 February 2007 (EST)

Actually there is no reference about a son of Malfurion and Tyrande called Rodalo in Outland. I have verified in wwikipedia there isn't such thing unless you know whewre why i can sezrch. Manuelwow

Pictures

Shadows & Light
Why are there so much pictures and fan art on this page? Pictures 3, 6 and 8 are not necessary, why do we keep them there?
Signing, Kirochi. Agreed, 3 and 6 are useless. 8, I think, just needs to be better placed. --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 21:28, 27 April 2007 (EDT)

Fixed--SWM2448 20:50, 2 May 2007 (EDT)

I also have a comment on the pictures: They're all clustered together and on one side. It looks bad, and it's pushing down text in IE. Four pictures on top of one another...then two...Why not spread them out? Ellethwen 11:36, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Fiddle around with them, see what you can come up with. Apart from the infobox picture, none of them are wedded to their location. --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 11:39, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
I'm no good with wiki formatting. I'd probably ruin the article. But if you want me to, I can try. Ellethwen 12:19, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
<shrug> The article can be reverted at any time, so experiment a little- and use the "show preview" button to view your changes before they're actually saved. --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 15:49, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Okay, then I'll give it a try. Ellethwen 21:16, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Which image did you think was fan art? The one from the Shadows & Light with her next to her tiger certainly wasn't.Baggins 21:51, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Take that as read. I'm not particuarly endeared to that image, but if it can be nicely placed... --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 01:48, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Okay, well, I've moved the pictures around, and added the nightsaber picture. I really wanted to put it by trivia, since that's where the 'saber is mentioned, but it didn't work for some oddball reason. Anywho, feel free to move the pictures aground again or give me feedback. I didn't destory the article, and text isn't pushed down anymore, so that's good :-) Ellethwen 03:11, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Voice

Does anyone else think she may be voiced by Elisa Gabrielli? She's not credited as a voice, but Tyrande sounds alot like her, and it may just be union regulations.--Aldrius 02:14, 9 May 2007 (EDT)

Tyrande's tiger

It actually has a name. It's written in -Shadows&Light-, sadly i don't have the book at hand at the moment. Anyone here who has?--Maibe 18:44, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Got it: the name of the tiger is Ash'alah--Maibe 14:06, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
It's in shadows&light, written in Tyrande's descrition and, I believe, possesions.--Maibe 11:57, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
We need a page number. --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 13:00, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Page 57.Baggins 13:09, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Shouldn't she be considered a hunteress or druid for having Ash'alah as a (pet, ally, friend, whatever)? Or is it just a Warcraft thing that shouldn't overthink? Mr.X8 02:18, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

She's just listed a Priestess of the Moon, in Warcraft III, so I wouldn't think too much about it.Baggins 02:29, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

The tiger is her mount...sort of like gnomes how runs around with sabers now, ingame she cant actually dismount and let you fight both the cat and her. --Gurluas 15:23, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

The Photo

There is a phoyo of tyrande with more two other peole who are they? if anyone has the photo could you show it to me? thanks.Manuelwow

The other two people are Illidan, and Malfurion. Go to the sons of the storms website to see it. Its the cover for the War of the Ancients Archive.Baggins 21:10, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Shadows & Light cover - Not Tyrande?

Moved to Talk:Tyrande Whisperwind/Shadows&Light

Pronunciation

The article says it's tee-RON-da or TIR-on-da. I don't think so... I pronounce it simply tirande. -- Night Elf FemaleShaera 19:53, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Err... How's that different from the other two? Those are the ones heard in-game. --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 20:45, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
I don't know exactly :D Perhaps the problem is that I'm Hungarian, and I hear some things different... Anyway, that's my fault. Sorry :) -- Night Elf FemaleShaera
Staghelm pronounces it "Teer-ON-dƏ" (schwa is like "uh"). Go on, click him! Tyrande has no idea how to lead our people! --Nerit (talk) 22:13, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Eranikus

That bit about Eranikus, is that a confirmed part of the story, or just another questline?--Austin P (talk) 01:47, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Err... how are those two ideas in conflict? --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 12:51, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

It's stated as if it's factual, instead of something that could happen. When things haven't been confirmed outside of WoW, it's meant to be described as "It's possible to" or "In a quest", ect.--Austin P (talk) 14:12, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

What side of policy are you referring to? I've not heard this one. --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 22:17, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

It's the same reason raid bosses are listed as "killable" instead of dead. Just because it happens in a quest doesn't mean it's officially occured. Illidan's death is covered due to being a major character, but the article specifies that all that happens in a quest, just in case Blizzard doesn't consider him dead in future sources. If the Eranikus section hasn't been officially confirmed to have happened, and is instead just a possibility, it should be specified as such.--Austin P (talk) 02:46, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Bosses who just die are classified as killable. Bosses who quests refer to as dead are marked as dead (see Nefarian and Onyxia. For proof that the events involving Eranikus happened you can read the "The Story do far" article on the burning crusade official site telling us that the "heroes of the world" did in fact face the challenges given to them (raid dungeons), and ahn'qiraj couldn't have happened without Eranikus and Tyrande.Warthok Talk Contribs 03:53, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Ah, okay. That's all I wanted to know, if the quest had been confirmed from an outside source.--Austin P (talk) 13:12, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Hatred Against Orcs?

In the War of the Ancients, Tyrande really cared for Broxigar, and, when Krasus left, said that "We Shall meet again, I promise you that." In Warcraft three, Malfurion Suggested cooperating with these "Orcs" And Tyrande blindly refused with anger and rage, as if she forgotten about Broxigar? And there was no mention from her lips of Broxigar since the War of the Ancients, plus the fact that Krasus still haven't actually met Tyrande in the Future as he promised. Opinion?Hail, The Lord of Lore. (talk) 21:55, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

It could be explained that RoC is set in the unaltered timeline, so Tyrande never met Broxigar, or that Nozdormu erased her memories. The most likely retroactive explanation is that she was judging the orcs based on their contemporary actions (destroying the forests and killing Cenarius) rather than Brox's example. Remember that Brox was captured in the forest and dragged to Suramar in a cage, while the orcs barged in unannounced and started ripping everything apart. She probably found difficulty reconciling the memory of a noble orc from ten millenia earlier with the percieved savages she encountered. --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 15:23, 23 December 2008 (UTC)