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Can somebody post a screenshot of the entrance? --Xmuskrat 15:44, 13 Jan 2006 (EST)
Frazzlepop's speculation
Interesting speculation by Frazzlepop in official WoW boards [1]:
In case you don't know anything about Uldum, it's a Titan complex in south Tanaris. According to an ancient Titan holographic recording, this is one of three Titan stations in Azeroth. The others are Uldaman in the Badlands, and Ulduar, in Northrend. While we know the most about Uldaman, where the Titans actually made the Dwarves, Earthern, and Troggs, and Ulduar is a complete mystery, we know a little about Uldum. According the the recordings, Uldum was or is an environmental study and research station. This may have been where the Titans put down the plan for this world, and all it's lakes, mountains, and seas, plus the creatures to be made.
The really interesting thing about Uldum is that it has a massive gaping hole in the centre of its gates, and there a arrows stuck in the wood all around it. On first glance it may seem as if someone or something may have been trying to get into Uldum, but closer inspection reveales another possibility.
The doors, which are about the size of the Gates of Ironforge, have massive iron brackets on the outside. They would have a huge log or plank slid in, thus holding the doors shut. But the brackets are on the outside, not inside. They were closed from the outside to keep something in.
Another thing is the hole in the centre. The doors are about four metres thick, which is reeeeeaaally thick. However, something managed to smash it's way through them. The doors are also slightly pushed out, also as if something was pushing or smashing from the inside.
The arrows around the hole are also interesting, because they are at least a metre long. Whatever or whoever was shooting was really big.
There are also two columns of massive stone pillars outside the entrance. They are richly carved, and some still have thick metal chains hanging between them. One of these pillars are knocked over, and another, the closest to the doors, has the top half missing with burns all over the stone. They COULD be freak accidents, but wind would be unlikely to do such things.
One final piece of the puzzle is the giants outside the entrance. They are large, red, and very elite. As all Giants were made by Titans to terraform the world, there are two possibilities with them. One, they were made/kept/experimented on inside Uldum, and eventually lost it and smashed outside. They then ran out of ideas and wandered around outside Uldum for a couple thousand years.
But Giants are not known for randomly smashing things, as they are normally very defensive. Also, the hole in the gates is about half way up, and it seems unlikely that the giants could or would pull themselves up through it. Finally, there is the question as to what would have been shooting at them? The trolls or elves, the closest match, are not big enough, and there does not seem to be evidence of any other large civilization there.
The other explaination is the most unsettling. The remaining pillars at the gates are carved with pictures of a snake or snakes. The Giants could have been guards outsde, or simply been nearby. There may have been one or more huge, monsterous snakes or similar creature kept inside Uldum. once the Titans left Azeroth, the creature(s) could have awoken, broken free, or grown strong enough to escape. They break out of Uldum and get attacked by Giants outside the gates, who may either have bows or machines that shot them. The creature escapes into the world, and the giants forget about it after about five seconds, and wander about smooshing passing explorers.
This may or may not be the cause of the damage, but it certainly is something to think about. After all, trolls are known to have statues of snakes...
--Ymihere 02:17, 5 April 2006 (EDT)
Intresting... very intresting... my opinion is if the rumored expansion revolving around the old gods ever come true, Uldum will likly be similar to the Dark Portal, a gateway that leads to a huge new area, the thing that might have escaped, would probably be a servent of the old gods if both the theroy of this guy on the forums and mine hold true. Hordesupporter 01:59, 5 April 2007 (EDT)
There is another viewpoint which may be interesting to note. Slightly north of Yojamba isle in Stranglethorn is another big gate or maybe it's a dam. The architecture of this dam or gate resembles the architecture of the gate in Tanaris. As almost all structures in Stranglethorn are of trollish origin. This leads to the assumption that there is also some kind of trollish influence in Uldum. What if the Trolls originally are also a product of the Titans like the Dwarves are? Metamagic 10:43, 3 May 2007 (CET)
- That gate is the location of Deadmines. (Run through again and you'll see the huge gate from the inside in the cave with the ship). Unlike the pirates in the Goonies, the Defias needed a way to remove the boat from the cave when they were done constructing it. ;) Indium 07:25, 10 May 2007 (EDT)
- OMG, when I say that gate, i thought of Goonies too, lol. Acjpb 16:27, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
- It may or may not have a tie to the door, but w/e that skeleton slightly north of the entrance used to be is more then big enough to smash through that door. It even has a horn similar in diameter to the hole in the gates but the tip of the skeletons horn is forked. Just a thought, but ive always been curious what could have made that skeleton. It even makes the two giant almost naga looking skeletons in desolace, supposedly involved with the Old Gods, look tiny.Oddjob 3:05, 29 Jan 2008 (PST)
Frazzlepop's speculation seems accurate. I have added the link to Drysc's post on the WoW Forums in the Uldum article. Vizir 15:45, 11 Mar 2008 (EST)
Based on what Drysc mentioned and the engravings on the pillars around the entrance, whatever escaped could be serpentine. Dark Iron Dwarves#Modern_Dark_Irons have allied with the Forest Trolls to summon the Serpent Goddess Ula-Tek in Zul'Aman. She seems to have a connection with the Old Gods (she may possibly be an Old God or a Loa). It is possible that the wind serpents all descended from whatever was contained in Uldum. It is possible that Ula-Tek herself was imprisoned in Uldum. Vizir 19:30, 20 Mar 2008 (EST)
I'm surprised that we haven't called the surrounding areas into question yet. Look just a couple miles out past Uldum and you see a lush forest filled with... dinosaurs. And that forest is in a crater. And surrounded by desert. Does that make a lick of sense to you guys? Not one to me. Of course, I'm refering to the Un'goro Crater. Apparently Uldum was a center designed for environmental tweaking and shaping by the ancients, that I'll just call teraforming. Something "breaking out" of Uldum may tie in with a malfunction of equipment or some other accident which would 'cause the freak of nature which is Un'goro. Un'goro is related to the Titans in a number of ways, it's name apparently being translated to "god-lands" in some way, plus the pylons may or may not have been titan constructions. Either way, it appears to me that something's wrong there, or something has gone wrong. The Uldum page presents the idea that the escapee may be something we take for granted. Ever wonder why there are dinosaurs everywhere? I haven't compared heights, but perhaps a devilsaur punched a hole through that with it's massive head? The giants may have pushed the lizards into Un'goro and shaped the edges of the area to hold them in. This is all one heck of a ramble, but in short my theory is as follows: Something at Uldum 'cause the environmental anomoly that is the Un'goro crater, and what may have been held inside was a number of Titan creations, perhaps prototypes or defects, that are our modern 'dinosaurs'. Additional evidence for my theory: the Sholazar Basin. This is another anomoly in a desert, this case the frozen desert of Northrend. We also know, up front and clearly, that the Titans had a strong and vast position in Northrend, Uldaur also being there. Deepercutt 23:56, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Oh my gosh dude thats a good idea. There's a lot to back it up: if Un'goro means God-lands, what if that is where they first came at, I mean the Exodar crash for example, the Titans are huge what if they "crashed". That would cause the crater, just like a meteor, just my idea.-- 
Gwyain Talk Contribs 18:53, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Almost certain in WotLK?
Just because they're adding Ulduar in WotLk, does not mean in any way that Uldum is coming too. Why is this "almost certain"? --Geoffron 03:32, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
- It's not anymore. I went ahead and made the change.--Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 19:49, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
I would make the assumption that most people expect Uldum to be coming soon, either in the initial expansion or during a post-WotLK patch, due to the fact that Ulduar is a confirmed new instance. Once WotLK arrives, the only remaining piece of the puzzle will be Uldum. Naturally, many players expect it to be updated in the future because of this as well. That's a perfectly legitimate assumption, one that I think is quite optimistic! I'm looking forward to Ulduar and Uldum in the future. Karazhan was a massive success, and I wouldn't be surprised if another 10-man was released in Kalimdor or the Eastern Kingdoms. Perhaps Uldum could be that 10-man, although that's pure speculation. --Akumas 12:13, 12 May 2008
now while it may have been the titans who had locked it up i have another idea. the pillars outside are carved with snkaes in the way many troll areas are. so my thought is what if the area was discovered by trolls and sealed by them to keep something they feared at bay. the fact that sul'farrak(a troll inhabited instance) is in the same area sort of supports the theory. and as to when it comes out, and by where it's placed, this will either be a portal or an underground/underwater instance.
- According to the actual Uldum page where it mentions that Blizzard is interested in going back and adding old-world content but not wanting to do so all in one expansion, is there any references that say this is aimed toward Uldum? I personally believe all expansions will feature at very least one old-world instance, similar to how BC added Karazhan and Zul'Aman. Now while I understand Blizzard does not wish to add all old world content in a single expansion, I have to believe that they will at very least open up SOME old world instance with WotLK, and with the addition of Ulduar I think Uldum is the most obvious choice. Several zones in Northrend are rich in Titan Lore, more so than any previous zones, Sholazaar Basin and the Storm Peaks are extremely rich in the story of the Titans. I doubt Uldum will be available as of shipping, or as a lower tier raid. The Discs of Norgannon are incomplete thus the remaining pieces must be within Ulduar, so it would probably be an attunement on par with The Vials of Eternity to acquire the Discs of Norgannon and gain entry to Uldum. We'll probably see it as a content patch. Blizzard will still have plenty of zones to revisit in the future, Grim Batol being a key example. Vicera (talk) 05:32, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Serpent?
So i went there myself and looked at the gates closely and the surrounding. I think maybe a Serpent-like creature may have escaped, or even a giant snake? Just a theory.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ecozonz (talk · contr).
A Big Worm?
I think i might agree with Kesmana. The Jormungar wyrms would be a pretty good source for the hole in the door. I mean, if you think about it, the hole might've come after the titans left, right? Then who carved the drawings of the snake. My idea is that it was some sort of primitive representation of a very long creature, made by a primitive artist who only associated it with something he could recognize. To that end, a snake could mean anything.
Also, to those who think Uldum will come out as a dungeon in WotLK, think about this. The original Ulduman came out in the original WoW, and now Ulduar will come out with WotLK. If you think about it that way, then there's a bit of a pattern to it; they bring out new content for the whole Titan theme every two expansion packs. If that's the case, maybe it would make more sense to hold off releasing Uldum until at least the next expansion; I personally think the earthy feel of it would work well for an Emerald Dream expansion. JPlowman2(talk) 11:22, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
