I just wondered could blizz be suggesting somthing with this mural...
Could this be Velen himself??
Velen??
Entirely possible- when first released, I thought is was Khadgar. He does look wise, I suppose. Might as well add the picture and then remove it when he have actual images. --Ragestorm 13:14, 31 July 2006 (EDT)
Very good find there. --Tampler
Very possible. If you look closely, you can see it is a priest. He is wearing the tier two preist shoulders and robes. Unlike normal eredar, he has the glowing crest above his head. He looks to be old and wise, as a Draenei leader should. This could be Velen. --User:Velenrulz
Velen's Appearance and Age
What about the Draenei Mage on the Burning Crusade home Page??That could be Velen and the Blood Elf next to him could be Kael.The issue of Age is also at hand as Velen lived 10,000 years ago,but he would remain like Kil'Jaedan and Archimonde and Have no real show of age.We will have to wait for Blizz to confirm this though. User:Hammerdin
- True, it's possible. And Velen is more than twenty-five thousand years old. It's probably a more powerful version of the same anti-aging spell used by the Guardians. --Ragestorm 17:35, 28 August 2006 (EDT)
- Maybe The Draenei in general is Blessed like the Night Elves to Have Immortality,Possibly Granted by the Naaru or Some Other Worldly Force(Dragonflight maybe) Due to their Extreme Intellegance and Ingenutiy.---Hammerdin
- Scale back a bit on the capitals. That's more than possible, although I'm not certain the the Dragonflights are a viable source for such an option. They were the most advanced race upon Azeroth at the time of the Old Gods' imprisonment, and that is the reason they were chosen to recieve such powers. But yes, it could be an arcane spell or the blessing of the Naaru. --Ragestorm 18:28, 28 August 2006 (EDT)
- Sorry...I like capitals.....Didn't the Eredar live on Argus though?Also its confirmed that Kil' and Arch got thier immortality from the Burning Legion.It may be that the Draenei themselves where blessed by both the Naaru and the Dragonflight due to thier resistance to corruption and dedication to the Holy light.-Hammerdin
- Yes, so your suggestion about the Naaru is quite likely. But the Draenei didn't even know the Dragonflights existed until Deathwing showed up on Draenor 25,000 years later- Dragons are native to Azeroth. --Ragestorm 20:28, 28 August 2006 (EDT)
- Yes..Maybe some naaru will be present in Exodar or around Azuremyst as quest givers or paladin trainers.Seems only fitting since the naaru have led them this far.Quite possibly a naaru might have an important place in Exodar as a boss.Maybe it is also that while on Argus,the Eredar learned about the Dragonflight but were not blessed because of thier affiliation with the burning crusade.-Hammerdin
- I've told you about six times: the Eredar didn't find out about the dragons until the War of the Ancients, 15,000 years after their corruption. The draenei, not for 25,000. The Dragons do NOT exist anywhere other than Azeroth and Outland, unless they were exported in the last decade. --Ragestorm 21:11, 28 August 2006 (EDT)
- Ok ok ok ok ok ok!The Eredar did not know about the dragons until 15,000 years after thier corruption and the Draenei 25 thousand.....its just that we know that blizz likes to change the story abit during the process of making a game.Maybe this Article should be moved to the Draenei discuss page,its kind of gone of track of the velen theme.-Hammerdin
- Eh. :/ if anything, Bliz seems pretty adamant about sticking to existing lore. They don't retcon much unless they really have to. Pzychotix
- Anyway, what's the point of anticipating retcons? If we start seeing retcons around every corner, then what's the point of the lore, anyways? --Ragestorm 06:01, 29 August 2006 (EDT)
- I think the only draenei who's almost immortal is Velen...maybe the others just have a long life. I think Velen was blessed by the naaru to become immortal so he could lead his race to a safer future. --Orkk
- Sounds reasonable. Sorry about stating about anticipating retcons. Velen is probably the only one of the draenei immortal. Its also a theory is that draenei have such long lifes is because of thier connection to the light. -Hammerdin