Logic
Totally can't get this out of my head, but must RP'rs in World of Warcraft accept this lore as the "true"? The official from Blizzard existed before this and since Knaak knows as much about timetravel as an ant, logic is completely killed in it... Any thoughts?
- Well, I would suggest actually trying time travel before you start criticizing someone else's interpretation. More importantly, however, there is no real difference in the end result of the two timelines- as far as we can tell, the only difference is that Hakkar the Houndmaster did not survive the original war.
- Third, just because there was earlier lore doesn't mean squat. I REALLY hate to use this example, but in Star Trek, the Borg simply assimilate Capt. Picard, but later, it's established that it was part of some grand scheme thought up by the Borg Queen.
- Finally, if the Role Players pick and choose which lore to rolepay from, what's the point of roleplaying?--Ragestorm 00:33, 17 December 2006 (EST)
- Have read the books actually... how to describe them... ever read Eragon? *shrugs*
- You will have to forgive me but I have no idea what a Borg or who Picard is.
- Oh and about the timetravel... it isn't logical, atleast not to a human mind, and the travelers (whatever their names were) raises too many paradoxes... Like why didn't Tyrande recognize them or the Old Gods thing that says on the article page...*headache*
- Anyway, thanks for your help... I think
Alternate? - Problem
As I've been sifting through different articles it seems that there's a bit of confusion as to where the "Alternate History" tag applies; is "alternate" the original story, which would logically seem 'out of date' (pun intended ;)), or is it Knaak's addition, which, though seemingly retconning old canon, is 'new'?
The Earthen article would suggest that 'Alternate' is the original. This one, on the other hand, supports to opposite theory. I think it may be best to choose one or the other.
--Pure.Wasted 04:21, 1 October 2006 (EDT)
- Knaak's writings are "alternate," the WC3 manual is "original." If it weren't for Jarod, Rhonin and Vereesa not appearing in-game, there'd be no question.--Ragestorm 22:29, 1 October 2006 (EDT)
- Is that really a problem, though? There's things missing from WarCraft 2 or WarCraft 3 but we don't doubt their canon status. Apart from all the references that could also only connect WoW to Day of the Dragon, we DO have Xaviaar, or whatever that Satyr area is called. And Xavius never existed before War of the Ancients... P.S.: that means the Earthen page needs an edit, then. --Pure.Wasted 10:11, 2 October 2006 (EDT)
- I think that the Earthen page is alright given the current convention. You do have a point, though about WC2. This does call for something a little more official I suppose... --Ragestorm 12:13, 2 October 2006 (EDT)
As I approuch the end of readin the third novel of the War of the Ancients Trilogy, its starting to seem like this history may not be so alternative as I orginally though.
Anyone else read the third novel yet? Any idea how we should handle the integration of the Original history and the information in the 3 novels?
Don't read this if you haven't finished.
Yea, it seems that this is the new history. They never say "history goes back to normal" or anything, and make it seem that the revisions are permanent.
As far as I can tell, everything still fits, except the death of Hakkar. But maybe he didn't actually die in the first book. (If you didn't know, apparently you get to fight him in Zul'Gurub.) I can't remember that part...
I'm wondering if the Old Gods have always been the cause of the invasion and Neltharion's betrayal, or if it's a plan they came up with in the present day and then distorted time to do it. Of course, the invasion never would've happened in the first place if not for them. Either way, it sure says some very interesting stuff about them.
Also, I'd love to see Brox's axe in Thrall's throneroom somewhere.
- --FeldmanSkitzoid 22:20, 21 Aug 2005 (EDT)
I wonder whether Jarod Shadowsong did exist in the "unchanged" history. What happened to him at last?--Sevil 08:16, 26 Nov 2005 (EST)
The the trilogy is listed as part of Burning Crusade's history
As mentioned to the Burning Crusade expansion pack Faq Page. I made note of this in the article.Baggins 22:54, 9 October 2006 (EDT)