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Playable Race Edit

Wow.com has just reviled Worgen (along with Goblins) to be a playable race in the next expansion (WoW: Cataclysm). I would add this information myself, but I don't know if this information is vetted yet. Plus, I don't want to screw anything up.

http://www.wow.com/2009/08/10/cataclysm-races-leaked/

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Halgy (talk · contr).

Will not be added unless its been made official. WW:DNP. User:Coobra/Sig4 20:31, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
That article is ridiculous. It only gives two "sources", one of which doesn't even mention races - it's just blatant theorizing. Remember, blogging != journalism. Just Alerting You Small Howbizr(t·c) 9:44 PM, 10 Aug 2009 (EDT)
I agree with that statement, and if blogging ever does replace, real, actual journalism, we are all screwed. That article is ridiculous anyways. I want new races in the expansion, but I'm not getting my hopes up, nor do I think the articles should be changed until Blizzard themselves make an announcement.Vulpes Wolf (talk)

The theory totally makes sense. The files, the art, all leads to it. But even if one (like me) loves digging files and etc, we still have to wait 7 days for this information to be confirmed... Who knows if Blizz don't wanted to play with us making false tips. Azahel (talk) 19:27, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Red herrings FTW.--SWM2448 20:46, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
I think it's true, all the same. Can't wait to see who's right!! Just Alerting You Small Howbizr(t·c) 2:56 PM, 15 Aug 2009 (EDT)
It's true, confirmed at Blizzcon around 12:30 PST. Bwahahaha, Naysayers! Sedurut (talk) 02:11, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
Hardly. I always thought it was true, but WW:DNP is part of being an official fansite. Just Alerting You Small Howbizr(t·c) 1:12 PM, 28 Aug 2009 (EDT)

Racial Traits Edit

Am I the only person who thinks the Worgens have overpowered racials? 70% Speed increase for 6 seconds is OP when used in conjunction with Sprint, Blink, Aspect of the Cheetah, etc. It'd be fine if it triggered the cooldown on all similar abilities, but I doubt it will. Skinning faster without a knife seems pretty unfair as well, since you could easily steal someone's skinning mob when they started before you. Abberation would cause a LOT of Horde Warlocks to become very angry in PVP. As for two forms, that seems to break their lore, don't you agree? They're supposedly cursed, which should mean that they're stuck as a Worgen forever. But no, they can transform into Humans whenever they please.

Discuss. Navalu (talk) 05:14, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Um, since when does any worgen in the game stay in one form? 85% of them use either appear as human or worgen. Highly doubt the speed increase racial (also, btw a 3min cd) will stack with the other speed increasing abilities. Skinning is already what... 1.5 seconds, so if stealing skins is an issue, don't loot the entire body and wait till they walk off, so they don't need a knife... get a gnomish army knife, then you won't need half the tools in your bags either. And no, don't discuss, you want to complain about the racials, take it the official WoW forums. User:Coobra/Sig4 05:25, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
First off, you have to remember that this is still pre-Alpha. Absolutely nothing is set in stone yet; lots of things can and will change. Hell, just think of how much changed in BC and WotLK between announcement and release. Secondly, they've said that they're going to be updating all of the other racials as well, which should balance it out a bit. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 05:33, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Female worgen model Edit

Femworg

This image was added to the article (just removed by me). To be honest it looks like a worgen female mask, placed over a female tauren's head, with an old worgen's body. Frankenstein's creation, as it were. Kirkburn  talk  contr 12:48, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

I'll have to agree with you Kirkburn, cause i have seen a picture like that before, using the same skeleton (or something very close), but a custom head. 1 & 2
Aedror42 (talk) 14:33, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Forsaken body, human arms, worgen (male) hands and feet, worgen (female) head. The head is disproportional too. --N'Nanz (talk) 14:39, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Agreeing with Kirk - please leave it out of the article. Just Alerting You Small Howbizr(t·c) 3:28 PM, 24 Sep 2009 (EDT)
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I felt like it's fake though, but this goblins always looked lame to me. Azahel (talk) 17:30, September 24, 2009 (UTC)
It's fake. The creator likes worgen and has made fake playable-looking worgen in the past. She whipped it up in an hour to confuse people yet again. Rutéa (talk) 22:59, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

I've replaced the incorrect Worgen model with the official Work-In-Progress image released by Blizzard. I must say, I'm happy with the direction they took the design. I hope to see some nice hairstyles, and I'm just dying to know how their druid shapeshift forms will look. Kuroth (talk) 16:24, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

DON'T. This whole topic was discussing that image you replaced. User:Coobra/Sig4 17:19, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

The old rumor Edit

Does anyone still have that old rumor, back from 2006, about playable worgen? It was made up before the revamped draenei were introduced and people were wondering what race the Alliance would get. The creator made it only for fun, but it introduced the idea of the humans of Gilneas behind the Greymane Wall becoming infected by the worgen curse and losing their minds. This rumor caught on like wildfire and eventually, it seems to have actually come true. I'd like to see how this old rumor compares to what we know of them now. Rutéa (talk) 23:05, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Here is a copy of the post, reposted by the original author.--SWM2448 23:14, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

(removed own comment) Oakpack4 (talk) 00:17, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Pronounciation? Edit

Hey, anyone know how this is pronounced?

No need for all the upside-down letters...just something like wor-jen or wor-gen... --IconSmall WolvarBig, furry, and insane (Have a conversation with the homocidal furry!) (Come and stalk me! ...No, wait, please don't.) 14:08, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

It is spoken in the Cataclysm trailer...--SWM2448 16:53, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

In-game models? Edit

Under the Description section the caption to the image Cataclysm Worgen.png says "In-game model of the new playable Worgen race." Where is the model located in the MPQ files? I want to take some screenshots with different armor in Model Viewer. SandersP (talk) 18:38, March 20, 2010 (UTC)

The new worgen model is not yet in-game, the picture is form the official site i think. Aedror42 (talk) 17:05, March 20, 2010 (UTC)
"[The new] female Worgen [models] don't exist in the game, and the the textures are way more detailed than most current in-game models." Source: http://esc-hatch.blogspot.com The males models are in the data files already apparently, but idk where to find them. SandersP (talk) 18:38, March 20, 2010 (UTC)
i'm 100% sure that the new worgen amle models arent in the datafiles yet, but i think that the article is refering to the old worgen amle models located in under Creature->Worgen->Worgen.m2 in the WoW Model Viewer. Aedror42 (talk) 19:09, March 20, 2010 (UTC)
Dang.. I really wanted to see them in 3D SandersP (talk) 19:20, March 20, 2010 (UTC)
Yeah me too, but i guess we'll have to wait bit more :P Aedror42 (talk) 19:25, March 20, 2010 (UTC)

Female NPCs Edit

I wasn't sure where to place this. Anyways. Does anyone knows if Blizz will be changing the Females NPCs in Northrend to display to female model, when they become worgens, once Cata comes? Gamerd (talk) 04:22, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

We don't even know if they're going to change the male models. They didn't update the worgen models in the old world for wrath with those new models, and they model they have for the players might only be used for the players and npcs from Gilneas... we don't know yet. When beta hits, we'll have more answers... right now during alpha its DNP due to NDA, even if we did have the answers. User:Coobra/Sig4 04:29, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

So I see about the DNP. Ok. Guess like others will have to wait. I know how Blizz like to keep things "Hush-hush". Gamerd (talk) 04:36, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

Technically, the worgen in Northrend aren't using a new model; they just have armor on top of the old model. Otherwise, yes, you're right on the NDA point. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 06:32, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
They use two different models, Worgen and NorthrendWorgen. Although very similar there are slight differences (not including the armor). But yea for the most part they are the same. User:Coobra/Sig4 17:21, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

Messed up article Edit

What is the purpose of the playable worgen article if this one has been hijacked?! --Drunkenvalley (talk) 14:05, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

Slight information about the playable ones is not hijacking a page. User:Coobra/Sig4 03:55, May 22, 2010 (UTC)

Are they really Northrend Worgen? Edit

While looking at some beta videos that takes places in Gilneas. I've noticed that some of the worgen that you fight are in many forms which includes the ones seen in Northrend. I'm remember the last time I've asked about the worgen (models) Coobra mentioned that there was 2 forms (Not the player ones). But by seeing these in Gilneas makes me wonder if they're just placeholders, worgen that stopped by from Northrend, or if they're really just another version that may be only for the quests. Gamerd (talk) 00:55, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

The so-called "worgen from Northrend" are just the usual worgen wearing different clothing. These new models first show up in Northrend zones. They've got leather hoods, some armor, and claws. It's just to introduce some more variety to the models, since there are a ton of worgen around. Has nothing to do with where they came from. WoWWiki-Suzaku (talk) 05:15, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

The Worgens' origin Edit

The first paragraph of the articel says that "the worgen come from another dimension" while the second paragraph says that the "worgen once were powerful night elven druids that could shapeshift into their wolf forms". I'm no expert but I doubt that the night elf druids came from another dimension. Can someone clarify this please? Manski (talk) 12:56, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

It's called a Retcon and both accounts will be stored on the wiki for prosperity, NPOV and inability to resolve retcons on Blizzard's behalf. -- <imagelink>http://www.zealvurte.co.uk/temp/sig-av/wiki_zeal.png%7CUser:Zealvurte</imagelink><imagelink>http://www.zealvurte.co.uk/temp/sig-av/wiki_talk.png|User talk:Zealvurte</imagelink><imagelink>http://www.zealvurte.co.uk/temp/sig-av/wiki_contribs.png%7CSpecial:Contributions/Zealvurte</imagelink><imagelink>http://www.zealvurte.co.uk/temp/sig-av/wiki_end.png|User:Zealvurte</imagelink>  13:13, August 1, 2010 (UTC)
Technically, given that it was an explicitly in-universe account claiming they were from another dimension, it's easily possible for Ur to have simply been mistaken, or that he was looking into the Emerald Dream and failed to recognize it for what it was. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 20:06, August 1, 2010 (UTC)
Exactly! Not a retcon, but a misunderstanding by an in-game source (which I'm sure wasn't Blizzard's idea at the time they wrote about Ur, but something that actually fits in quite well, and gives cohesion to the worgen background). --Oponyxal / Arodeesa  talk  contr 15:36, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
I don't by into arguments such as that, because it then throws into doubt every single in-universe piece of lore. It's a retcon, and they can get away with it more easily than the blantent ones because they can simply discredit the in-universe source rather than themselves.
The fact they don't provide any actual new lore to state the source was wrong, stinks of unresolved retcon aftermath because they just cba to address it. -- <imagelink>http://www.zealvurte.co.uk/temp/sig-av/wiki_zeal.png%7CUser:Zealvurte</imagelink><imagelink>http://www.zealvurte.co.uk/temp/sig-av/wiki_talk.png|User talk:Zealvurte</imagelink><imagelink>http://www.zealvurte.co.uk/temp/sig-av/wiki_contribs.png%7CSpecial:Contributions/Zealvurte</imagelink><imagelink>http://www.zealvurte.co.uk/temp/sig-av/wiki_end.png|User:Zealvurte</imagelink>  15:48, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
Actually, it doesn't need to be addressed. How would Ur know anything about the Emerald Dream? Any way you look at it, and even if Ur's research would've been added in-game today, he would've thought it was another dimension. Perhaps an easy solution for Blizzard, but nonetheless one that works just fine. And any in-game source can be discredited by Blizzard if they want to, without it being a retcon. Because any person in-game may have misunderstood. And that's most likely the case in this case. --Oponyxal / Arodeesa  talk  contr 15:57, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
Yeah... You clearly don't get what i said or the implications. Nevermind, doesn't matter. -- <imagelink>http://www.zealvurte.co.uk/temp/sig-av/wiki_zeal.png%7CUser:Zealvurte</imagelink><imagelink>http://www.zealvurte.co.uk/temp/sig-av/wiki_talk.png|User talk:Zealvurte</imagelink><imagelink>http://www.zealvurte.co.uk/temp/sig-av/wiki_contribs.png%7CSpecial:Contributions/Zealvurte</imagelink><imagelink>http://www.zealvurte.co.uk/temp/sig-av/wiki_end.png|User:Zealvurte</imagelink>  22:07, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
I get what you're suggesting, but the alternative is that every piece of in-universe lore, written by an in-game character, is infallible, which is also a poor assumption to make. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 16:21, August 3, 2010 (UTC)
No, the alternative is that every piece of lore is true until stated otherwise – in-universe or not. The other argument is all in-universe lore is falliable and should be treated like fan speculation at best and never needs to be handled with retcons, which is a worse assumption to make and a messy situation, consdering a almost all lore from wow is in-universe. -- <imagelink>http://www.zealvurte.co.uk/temp/sig-av/wiki_zeal.png%7CUser:Zealvurte</imagelink><imagelink>http://www.zealvurte.co.uk/temp/sig-av/wiki_talk.png|User talk:Zealvurte</imagelink><imagelink>http://www.zealvurte.co.uk/temp/sig-av/wiki_contribs.png%7CSpecial:Contributions/Zealvurte</imagelink><imagelink>http://www.zealvurte.co.uk/temp/sig-av/wiki_end.png|User:Zealvurte</imagelink>  14:19, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
Ultimately, I don't think we really need to go to either extreme - both "everything is 100% true" and "everything that's said in-universe should be treated as speculation" are both poor stances to take. Statements made in-universe by characters CAN be wrong, if it turns out they didn't have all the information at the time, but that doesn't mean we should automatically assume that they're always wrong either. Rather, treat them as true until we learn otherwise, but unlike retcons to out-of-universe story materials it's much easier to handle retcons of purely in-universe information. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 16:24, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

"Alien to Azeroth"Edit

For some reason they're in the (i dont know the name for this) little box for creatures alien to Azeroth. why is this, they're from Azeroth as they are a druid shapeshift of sorts. Undeadflamingo (talk) 18:38, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Capital? Edit

Where did you get that Darnassus is the capital of the Worgen? --SFSig-2009 10:31, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

Drinking Worgen Blood Edit

I don't know if it says this anywhere in game, but it holds true in other fantasy universes with Werewolves, one such example being the Elder Scrolls (Skyrim)

That's true, but we can't assume anything Winky. Often franchises will put their own spin on things; I just want to make sure there's a source included, as I can't recall off the top of my head seeing it anywhere. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 18:49, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
Raylan, I found the evidence to this Quest:No Escape confirms that this is possible, I'll add it in. Tankingmage (talk) 21:09, August 23, 2013 (UTC)

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