Template talk:Factions

I think this is a bit wide for every faction page. Could someone put a button like on the Table of Contents that can hide the factions that don't belong to the same category and that will show them on clicking ? This is kinda optional but would suit better the human eye (ask Ragestorm).--K ) (talk) 11:30, 12 November 2006 (EST)

Not a Stub

This page is a navigation template for factions, not a stubbed article.--Hobinheim 15:36, 12 November 2006 (EST)

I stubbed it because I know horde factions from Outland are lacking. --Adys 17:18, 12 November 2006 (EST)

Removal of Alliance/Horde Forces

I know it's sort of deceptive, since the battlegrounds forces are separate from the main factions. But. WoWWiki does not have seperate articles for either the Alliance Forces nor the Horde Forces. Both redirect to just Alliance/Horde. And the navigation bar just works better if it's coded the old way.--Hobinheim 15:45, 12 November 2006 (EST)

Use Faction Template for New Factions

Simple. Be sure to add {{Factions}} at the bottom of new faction pages.--Hobinheim 15:51, 12 November 2006 (EST)

How a Navigation Template Should Work

Make sure the place where the ilnk is pointing to is where the page finally resolves (no redirects). It makes the navigation bar look nicer when you actually look at the page.--Hobinheim 16:18, 12 November 2006 (EST)

Some Alliance, Some Horde

Some of the miscellaneous factions actually favor the one faction over the other. Maybe they shouldn't be listed under outland or miscellaneous then? I dunno. I guess it depends on how pivotal they are in the burning crusade, or how familiar their names will sound to each faction. They probably will be merged in some day, resulting in the removal of their individual faction badges and relocation to the appropriate faction.--Hobinheim 21:15, 12 November 2006 (EST)

Scale of Sands

Starts with an S. The 'The' isn't that important.--Hobinheim 15:38, 17 November 2006 (EST)

Mudsprocket?

Should we add Mudsprocket to Steamwheedle Cartel, even if it is a very small town?--User:Slxception/Sig 00:27, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

It's part of the Gagdetzan faction. Kirkburn  talk  contr 00:36, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Exact faction names

In response to Sky2042's undo of my edit:
I guess your reason is avoiding redirections. May I suggest renaming all faction's pages to their official names (those that appear in reputations tab)? TAP3AH 09:16, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Quoting policy is fun, so ... WW:NAME should help:

These articles should also not include definite or indefinite articles ("the" and "a/an") at the beginning of the page name. For example, use First War to refer to the event, not The First War. There is an important exception to this rule: "the", "a" or "an" is included when it would be capitalized if it appeared in text. This applies to, quest articles, guild articles, titles of books, games, and similar works.

If any of the factions are written with a capitalised indefinite article, certainly. Off the top of my head, I don't know which (if any) do. Kirkburn  talk  contr 17:48, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Class Icons

I added icons to three factions: Ravenholdt, Cenarion Circle, and Knights of the Ebon Blade, for which classes they respectively apply. If you think they shouldn't be there, go ahead and revert, I just thought they might help navigation for those classes a little. Omniferous (talk) 00:49, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

I think we should, if anyone has them, add the icons from the Armory to this template. They have different icons for "Alliance", "Alliance Forces", "Shattrath City", "Steamwheedle Cartel", and "Other". Rolandius (talk - contr) 11:25, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

About frequent editing

OK people this is going nowhere! Reverting the page 10 time a day wont do any good.

Please write here yours and read other people's arguments before making any changes.

I think this template should look exactly like like in-game reputation window. We can argue about Blizzard's choices for reputation tree but I still think this is the most reasonable solution.

I removed "Other" because there is no such subcategory. Personally, I don't think we need those empty cells but I left them because people seems to be sensitive about cell alignment. TAP3AH (talk) 04:37, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

I think the whole template could use a major overhaul... Classic section contains a BC rep, the Other section really should be merged into classic... yes it could be more like how its done by Blizzard, but we don't have to go their route. Sssssssssssssssssssssssss For Pony! (^Sssss/_Slithered) 04:51, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Actually the way it is now is similiar to what it looks like in-game. There is one "Other" category in-game and on the website, which has 2 factions within it. Rolandius (talk - contr) 05:00, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

The "Other" category even has its own icon. I have no idea why it only has two factions in it. I guess they don't fit elsewhere according to Blizzard? Rolandius (talk - contr) 05:04, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

I said there is no SUBcategory "Other".

Coobra, you can add to Exodar and Silvermoon City to notify they are from BC. TAP3AH (talk) 05:06, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Well the thing is that the template has three cells in it. So some of the categories like "Other" are hard to fit in there because they only need two cells, while others need three cells. Rolandius (talk - contr) 05:14, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

If you want to get technical on how it should match the in-game one, then this is how it should look... doesn't that look unpleasant, but like I said, we don't have to go their route. Sssssssssssssssssssssssss For Pony! (^Sssss/_Slithered) 05:25, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Well we have three ways to do it.

1.) This is how it looks in-game as I am now in-game looking at my character (Alliance). Reputation Pane:

• Classic
• The Burning Crusade
• Wrath of the Lich King
• Other

If you click Classic you will get around 13 individual factions plus subcat Alliance, subcat Alliance Forces, and subcat Steamwheedle Cartel.

If you click The Burning Crusade you will get around 10 individual factions plus subcat Shattrath City.

If you click Wrath of the Lich King you will get 5 (I have not met all the factions yet) or more individual factions plus subcat Alliance Vanguard and subcat Sholazar Basin.

If you click Other you will get 2 individual factions.

As you can see, some need two cells while others need three cells.

2.) The one on the website is similiar but they put it in alphabetical order with Other at the end also. It goes:

• Alliance
• Alliance Forces
• Alliance Vanguard
• Classic
• Shattrath City
• Sholazar Basin
• Steamwheedle Cartel
• The Burning Crusade
• Wrath of the Lich King
• Other

Alliance has 5 individual factions.

Alliance Forces has 3 individual factions.

Alliance Vanguard has 4 individual factions.

Classic has around 13 individual factions.

Shattrath City has 6 individual factions.

Sholazar Basin has 2 individual factions.

Steamwheedle Cartel has 4 individual factions.

The Burning Crusade has around 10 individual factions.

Wrath of the Lich King has 5 or more individual factions.

Other has 2 individual factions individual factions.

They all use 2 cells only.

3.) Some other way.

The End Rolandius (talk - contr) 05:41, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

If you wish to have it look a different way, please create it in a sandbox and link it here. If you can make it look good and functional at the same time, then changes can be made in one swoop rather than small edits that will cause a large job queue and maybe get reverted in the process. I'm all for change, this navbox is bulky and will only get bigger as more expansions are released, it needs to be reduced in some manner. Sssssssssssssssssssssssss For Pony! (^Sssss/_Slithered) 08:25, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

I think a proposal for an overhaul would be good, but it looks clean enough for me (personally) the way it is now. -Howbizr (talk) 19:33, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Cleaning

Well, since I see the template is protected, I request someone to use <br> at the first column. This template wastes too much space on the left when the links right could use it. Examples:

• '''{{bc-inline}}<br>The Burning Crusade''' to '''The Burning<br>Crusade {{bc-inline}}'''
• '''{{wotlk-inline}}<br>Wrath of the Lich King''' to '''<br>Wrath of the<br>Lich King{{wotlk-inline}}'''

This way the space isn't wasted and it's easier to read the information on the template. --Lon-ami (talk) 10:08, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Done. Thanks Gourra ;).--Lon-ami (talk) 11:09, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Ashen Verdict

Could someone with editing permission add 3.3's Ashen Verdict faction? -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 00:02, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

I never bothered with downloading the PTR, but is it a true faction you can gain rep with, or just an organization? Sssssssssssssssssssssssss For Pony! (^Sssss/_Slithered) 04:24, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

Actual faction. --Joshmaul (talk) 23:58, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

The Ashen Verdict must be sorted under T ("The..."), not under A ("Ashen...") because other factions, starting with "The" are sorted under T. Or the other way around: Ignore "The" when sorting faction names in the template. Hans Kamp (talk) 10:10, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Anybody wants to answer this question? Must "the" be ignored while sorting alphabetically or not? Hans Kamp (talk) 15:13, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

Form

Look here for a proposition of re-modeling

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 21:53, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

Edited. Say if you like it or not. --g0urra[T҂C] 07:54, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

Go for it :)

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 10:28, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Guardians of Hyjal

Since this faction has been confirmed, should we create a Cataclysm section for the template and add the Guardians of Hyjal to it? Or should we wait until the Beta begins? --Sairez (talk)

Earthen Ring

With the Cataclysm event happening, it seems the Earthen Ring has stepped into the fray. I once saw a beta video from WoW.com's Youtube page of when a player talked to Thrall to complete a quest in the Maelstrom that guided them to Deepholm and that the player was awarded reputation points with the Earthen Ring as a result. Isn't it time that the Earthen Ring faction was added to the template as a Neutral Cataclysm faction? If so, I'd appreciate if someone able to edit it does so.

--JARIITX (talk) 06:03, July 21, 2010 (UTC)