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See also Archive of Template:Mobbox: [[/Archive 1]]
 
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| name= Stoley's Debt
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== Removed Default Image ==
 
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| faction= Neutral
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| level= 45
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| levelreq = 40
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| category = Tanaris
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| start = [["Sea Wolf" MacKinley]]
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| end = [[Stoley]]
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| experience = 550
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| next = {{quest|Stoley's Shipment|id=2873}}
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| id = 2872
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}}
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== Objectives ==
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Speak with [[Stoley]] in [[Steamwheedle Port]].
   
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== Description ==
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Arg, thanks to Mikaka pointing it out, I've removed the default image of a troll. It spawned on every page... Sillly me. Real fix pending. --'''[[User:Hobinheim|<span style="border-bottom:1px dotted; cursor:help;color:#33ffbb">Hobinheim</span>]]''' <small>([[User talk:Hobinheim|<span style="color:#aaffaa">talk</span>]] · [[Special:Contributions/Hobinheim|<span style="color:#ffff99">contr</span>]])</small> 16:30, 16 January 2007 (EST)
 
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My old buddy [[Stoley]] owes me a very special bottle of rum. He tends the bar at Steamwheedle Port in [[Tanaris]], [[Kalimdor]], and he promised me that the rum there is stronger than anything we can find in [[Booty Bay]]. He's so confident that he says if I try that rum and don't agree with him, then he'll double the money he owes me!
   
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Well, I think he's not as confident as he was when last we spoke, and now he's afraid to give me that rum. But I don't back down from wagers, so why don't you talk to him for me...
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:I removed the pic width argument because it was stretching the more slender pics (notably elven females) into pixelated ugliness, and because an small width makes the broader pics too tiny. --{{User:Varghedin/Sig}} 06:48, 20 January 2007 (EST)
 
   
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== Bot Convertion ==
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== Completion ==
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Ah, so you've been speaking with MacKinley, have you?
   
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It's not what he thinks! I'm not afraid to give him some [[Steamwheedle Bilge Rum]]...
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See talk on [[Talk:Boilerplate:NPC]] --[[User:Voidvector|Voidvector]] 04:00, 3 February 2007 (EST)
 
   
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I just don't have any rum to give him!
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== Parameter names make no sense ==
 
   
 
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Why is does the parameter '''faction=''' just pick the icon type, but the parameter '''city=''' actually shows up after '''Faction:'''? Looks like this template needs some work. --[[Image:gengar orange 22x22.png]]&nbsp;[[User:Fandyllic|<span style="border-bottom:1px dotted; cursor:help;" title="Admin">Fandyllic</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Fandyllic|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Fandyllic|contr]])</small> 10:51 PM PST 5 Dec 2007
 
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*550 [[XP]]
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:Ran out of names? o_o Unless you feel like changing all the instances of it now <small>Have fun!</small>. --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]]<span style="font-size: 85%"> ([[User talk:Sky2042|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|con]] |<span class="plainlinks"> [http://www.wowhead.com/?user=Skyfire wh]</span>)</span> 08:34, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 
   
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== Quest progression ==
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== New template for characters? ==
 
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# {{questlong|Neutral|45|Stoley's Debt}}
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# {{questlong|Neutral|45|Stoley's Shipment}}
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# {{questlong|Neutral|45|Deliver to MacKinley}}
   
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I just want to say one thing... This is MUCH uglier then the one we had before.
 
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+The one we had before had such a nice textrure and... it was VERY nice.
 
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{{Elinks-quest|2872}}
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Is WoWWiki starting to become an anti-lore site?!?!?!?!?! I am sorry if I sound upset, BUT I AM!
 
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I don't know what you can (or will) do about it... but just... Now I have said what I wanted to...
 
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--<span style="background:#; border:)px #0000FF; padding:0px; margin-left:0px; font-size:100%;">'''[[User:Oscararon|<span style="color:#0000FF; cursor:hand" title="Welcome, to Northrend!">''The Lich King''</span>]]</span><span style="background:#; padding:1px; font-size:100%;">-&nbsp;[[File:PetitionGossipIcon.png|Talk|link=User talk:Oscararon]]-&nbsp;[[File:VendorGossipIcon.png|Contribs|link=Special:Contributions/Oscararon]]-</span>[[File:BattleMasterGossipIcon.png|Lord Lightsword|link=User:Oscararon/Gereon Lightsword]] 10:52, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
 
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:The one we had before did not fit the color scheme of the site. It was too large, and clumsily coded. This one fits both and allows for easier updates. I don't see how you would presume that would make WoWWiki any less favorable towards lore. --{{User:Pcj/sig}} 13:14, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
 
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: Wowbox was cool, but it did have very hacky code and made updating the relevant templates quite difficult. {{User:Kirkburn/Sig4}} 15:01, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
 
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You see, now we have a "Level" thing... and... instead of a real "Faction" thing it comes a picture in the left corner and that doesn't work well for... hmm, let's see... the Burning Legion? Or the Scourge?
 
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--<span style="background:#; border:)px #0000FF; padding:0px; margin-left:0px; font-size:100%;">'''[[User:Oscararon|<span style="color:#0000FF; cursor:hand" title="Welcome, to Northrend!">''The Lich King''</span>]]</span><span style="background:#; padding:1px; font-size:100%;">-&nbsp;[[File:PetitionGossipIcon.png|Talk|link=User talk:Oscararon]]-&nbsp;[[File:VendorGossipIcon.png|Contribs|link=Special:Contributions/Oscararon]]-</span>[[File:BattleMasterGossipIcon.png|Lord Lightsword|link=User:Oscararon/Gereon Lightsword]] 12:10, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
 
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: Ah, level needs to be put in an if, whilst the neutral icon does indeed need changing, perhaps with extra icons. {{User:Kirkburn/Sig4}} 14:48, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
 
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::Yeap, get more icons and we'll set it up. Otherwise, I recommend <nowiki>{{{affiliation}}}</nowiki>. --{{User:Pcj/sig}} 15:00, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
 
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== Linkage to Thottbot et al ==
 
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How about adding a parameter for linkage to the DB sites that have mob pages? (I wanted to add one for [[K. Lee Smallfry]]) -- [[User:ScratchMonkey|ScratchMonkey]] 15:47, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
 
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:Should follow the [[Help:NPC articles|NPC boilerplate]], which says it should have a section at the bottom titled "External links" and then use the {{t|elinks-NPC}} template. --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] | [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] |<span class="plainlinks"> [http://www.wowhead.com/?user=Skyfire w]</span>) 18:32, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
 
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== Slight changes ==
 
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Under where it has '''balance''', with the <nowiki>[[Category:{{{balance}}} Pets]]</nowiki>, Pets needs to be changed to pets. {{User:Coobra/Sig3}} 02:49, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 
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== Other factions? ==
 
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Much like how {{t|NPC}} can handle factions other than A/H/N/C, how about NPCbox? I've already created [[:Image:SSO 32.gif]] as a test case (see {{NPC||Eldara Dawnrunner}}). Short of the obvious factions (Aldor/Scryers), any other factions come to mind? Wrath isn't too far away and I get the feeling there's going to be another "pick a faction" decision happening as soon as we get to Dalaran... --[[User:Kaydeethree|<span style="cursor:help;" title="WoWWiki Admin">k</span>]]_[[User_talk:Kaydeethree|d]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Kaydeethree|3]]</sup> 03:23, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 
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:That would be nice... Neutral just doesn't fit all these new factions that are appearing. Just so long as it doesn't get crazy, by crazy I mean every faction (in-game) getting an icon... {{User:Coobra/Sig3}} 03:40, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 
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==New fields==
 
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How about if we add new fields called Parent Race, Former Race, and Caste? Parent Race would be used for all those confusing subraces that are sometimes called races. For instance, Night Elf would have Elf as the Parent Race. Ironforge Dwarf would have Dwarf as the Parent Race. Former Race could be used for people that have turned into the Undead or something else like Sylvanas Windrunner and Illidan. For Sylvanas, instead of Race = Forsaken (Undead high elf) it would be Former Race = High Elf and then Race = Forsaken. For Illidan, instead of Race = Demon/Night Elf hybrid it would be Former Race = Night Elf and then Race = Demon. Caste would be used for the Highborne, a caste of Night Elves, and other races that have castes like the Nerubians, with their Nerubian Workers, Nerubian Seers, Nerubian Spiderlords, Nerubian Queens, etc. [[User:Rolandius|Rolandius]] [[Image:Paladin.gif|25px]] <small>([[User talk:Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Talk">talk</span>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Contributions">contr</span>]])</small> 08:21, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
 
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:No. --{{User:Pcj/sig}} 21:10, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
 
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Could an admin edit this article to clarify some things. For instance, no one is using the "name" field like it says it should be. It says NPC name, not names without titles. For example, according to this article the "name" field of Fandral Staghelm should say Arch Druid Fandral Staghelm. The article is already named Fandral Staghelm so I thought that is why someone created the "name" field for the whole name in-game. [[User:Rolandius|Rolandius]] [[Image:Paladin.gif|25px]] <small>([[User talk:Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Talk">talk</span>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Contributions">contr</span>]])</small> 14:46, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
 
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:First a disclaimer, I'm not an admin. I think I can answer your question. As I understand the philosophy of the site, we want to keep things as close to how they appear in the game. So Name= should be the name that appears above the NPC when you look at them. Title= should be the title in angle brackets that appears below the name. Any other name or title they are given in lore would go in the body of the article, not in the NPCbox.
 
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:I don't know how this applies to NPC characters that are not in WoW, if they even have pages in WoWwiki. It's been a long time since I've played at Warcraft III, and I don't play the pen and paper RPG. [[User:Madkaugh|Madkaugh]] ([[User talk:Madkaugh|talk]]) 04:24, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 
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Why isn't there a Language field? [[User:Rolandius|Rolandius]] [[Image:Paladin.gif|25px]] <small>([[User talk:Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Talk">talk</span>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Contributions">contr</span>]])</small> 04:36, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 
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Is it possible to set the alignment of the headline (within the blue box) to ''center''? It looks weird on some pages: [[Velen]].--[[User:Iggey|Iggey]] ([[User talk:Iggey|talk]]) 05:33, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 
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I don't suppose an "alias" field could be added. It would be helpful for certain characters where their other name is not a title; Highlord Darion Morgraine -> The Ebon Watcher, King Varian Wrynn -> Lo'Gosh the Ghost Wolf for example. [[User:Tevri|Tevri]] ([[User talk:Tevri|talk]]) 17:39, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 
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== Image alt text should default to pagename ==
 
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I had just [http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Voidhunter_Yar&diff=next&oldid=1807464 'fixed'] the [[Voidhunter Yar]] page since the image alt/mouseover text displayed as <nowiki>"Image of {{{name}}}"</nowiki>, but then I thought, this is rather a shortcoming of the template than the NPC page's editor, the template should use <nowiki>{{{pagename}}}</nowiki> when <nowiki>{{{name}}}</nowiki> is not defined. In fact, the table title already does that fallback. Can someone with the proper rights change that please? ~ [[User:Nathanyel|Nathanyel]] ([[User talk:Nathanyel|talk]]) 15:17, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
 
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:Done. --{{User:Pcj/sig}} 15:50, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
 
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:: I salute the ever-busy Pcj. ~ [[User:Nathanyel|Nathanyel]] ([[User talk:Nathanyel|talk]]) 16:37, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
 
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=== Race/Creature===
 
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Was that an accidental change to the npcbox to prevent whatever may be in the race= if no creature= parameter is there (or filled in)? Cause I'm noticing if creature= is empty the race doesn't show up either. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 01:20, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 
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:I noticed that too. I also have noticed that people are putting in race and/or creature terms that do not exist or are not correct, but that is a whole other thing. [[User:Rolandius|Rolandius]] [[Image:Paladin.gif|25px]] <small>([[User talk:Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Talk">talk</span>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Rolandius|<span title="Rolandius's Contributions">contr</span>]])</small> 06:31, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 
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::Heres the funny thing, it shows up without creature type if you change it from race to races.{{User:Warthok/Sig}} 14:48, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 
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=== Pet section ===
 
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*learns → Since its all done by family type and talent points now
 
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Any opinions? {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 01:25, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 
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:No opinions, well... since seeing as these parameters are outdated and unused anyway, I'll go ahead with the changes. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 08:37, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
 
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==Race field==
 
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I have started to see people is adding the [[Template:RaceIcon|RaceIcon]] to some characters pages. The current race field doesn't support this properly, cause it automatically adds the link. Also, for multiple races, in case of the halfbreeds, it's a mess. Because of this, people is using the race(s) field instead. The problem of using this one is that the creature type doesn't display, so my suggestion would be to merge the race and the race(s) fields, and remove the automatic linking.
 
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Then, we should start using RaceIcons. We could improve the [[Template:Race|Race]], too, to show every single race, and make tagging easier.
 
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Finally, there's a "bug" I've found in almost every single page using this template. Whe you put race, but you don't put creature, the race doesn't show. Would be nice if that was fixed, to post the race no matter if creature is posted or not (or an empty creature folder could display "unknown" instead of hiding the race).
 
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That's all, thanks from advance ;).--[[User:Lon-ami|Lon-ami]] ([[User talk:Lon-ami|talk]]) 17:36, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 
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:I second this. {{User:Warthok/Sig}} 18:02, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 
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::A top priority!
 
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::Almost no book character, we have in the wiki, has a Creature type, so they got no race either! (even thought the race is filled) Great shame!
 
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::{{User:A'noob/sig}} 18:23, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 
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:::For the icon+race template to be used inside the race folder, I could think of something working like this:
 
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:::We could use this template to replace the [[:Category:Race templates|Race templates]], too. There could be a problem with children and dragonkin (in case we decide to replace those other templates), but we could add more tags to it.--[[User:Lon-ami|Lon-ami]] ([[User talk:Lon-ami|talk]]) 18:32, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 
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::::For the race not showing if creature= is empty is not a bug... it was done on purpose... exactly why, I don't know. I noted this back in July see [[#Race/Creature]]. As for delinking the race parameter I'd have to disagree. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 21:23, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 
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:::::And whatever the reason for creature not displaying if empty, I don't find it anything positive.--[[User:Lon-ami|Lon-ami]] ([[User talk:Lon-ami|talk]]) 23:27, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 
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:For a half-breed with multiple races, you have to use <code>races=</code>, because you will have [[Half-orc/Half-draenei]] if you use <code>race=</code> instead of [[Half-orc]]/[[Half-draenei]]
 
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I would like to include icons such as these:{{RaceIcon|Human|Male}}{{RaceIcon|Orc|Male}}{{RaceIcon|Undead|Male}}
 
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in the npc box race section, they are aesthetically appealing and they represent the characater's race in a visual way, not just by text, please vote for yes!Sure the photo represents the character but these icons represent the character's race as a whole, individual icons will be used only wwhere needed, unique characters like: [[Sylvanas Windrunner]],[[Lich King]]
 
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{{vote|Yes|[[User:Lon-ami|Lon-ami]] ([[User talk:Lon-ami|talk]]) 11:26, January 5, 2010 (UTC)|If you are referring to putting the icon inside the "race" field, then yes. If not, explain yourself better, please.}}
 
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{{vote|Yes|{{User:FireMaster/Sig1}} 12:20, January 5, 2010 (UTC)|It won't hurt.}}
 
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{{vote|No|{{User:A'noob/sig}} 10:09, January 5, 2010 (UTC)|It will overload the box.}}
 
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{{vote|No|[[User:Benitoperezgaldos|Benitoperezgaldos]] ([[User talk:Benitoperezgaldos|talk]]) 20:32, January 5, 2010 (UTC)|It will take too much time and work and I, personally, don't like it.}}
 
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{{vote|No|[[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 22:58, January 5, 2010 (UTC)|Redundant.}}
 
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{{vote|No|[[Image:IconSmall_DrakeAzure.gif]]&nbsp;[[User:Drazisil|Drazisil]] (<sup>[[User talk:Drazisil|t]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Drazisil|c]]</sub>) 13:50, May 31, 2010 (UTC)|I think it would distract from the text.}}
 
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I feel its redundant. Not to mention consistency issues... not ever race as an icon made for them. So then you'll have some with icons and others without. Also, I removed the option of Icon only... for obvious reasons. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 21:26, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
 
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:I'm unsure about this, so don't expect my comment to stay in the field it is for a long time. In case of organizations and zones it's great, but in character cases, it feels too redundant. I'd like to hear Warthok's opinion (I think he was the first to start adding this) before making my final decision.--[[User:Lon-ami|Lon-ami]] ([[User talk:Lon-ami|talk]]) 23:08, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
 
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::It is true that myself and Warthok were the first to start implementing the icons, also it wouldn't be too much trouble for me too add them, considering the huge community of editors we have it could get done on all te major characters in less than 30 minutes. Plus they are, like I said before, visual representation of the characters race in entirety,also i appreciate all you guys helping me wiht the wowwiki. Thanks again :D. NOAHGSULLIVAN 02:56, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
 
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:::Heh... getting every wowwiki editor to work together on a single project.. very unlikely. A bot if anything would be setup. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 03:27, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
 
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:I disagree with you Noahgsullivan, if it is to be done, then it must me done to all articles with a NPCBOX, not only the major ones.
 
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::I agree with you on that aspect, but it could be a gradual change and since most visitors visit the major characters most, then those could get done and out of the way, then if an editor is editing around, they could add it for other more minor characters which could work, i mean why is it so important all of them are done at the same time? NOAHGSULLIVAN 19:39, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
 
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Revision as of 15:11, 2 November 2010

NeutralStoley's Debt
Start "Sea Wolf" MacKinley
End Stoley
Level 45 (Requires 40)
Category Tanaris
Experience 550
Next Stoley's Shipment

Objectives

Speak with Stoley in Steamwheedle Port.

Description

My old buddy Stoley owes me a very special bottle of rum. He tends the bar at Steamwheedle Port in Tanaris, Kalimdor, and he promised me that the rum there is stronger than anything we can find in Booty Bay. He's so confident that he says if I try that rum and don't agree with him, then he'll double the money he owes me!

Well, I think he's not as confident as he was when last we spoke, and now he's afraid to give me that rum. But I don't back down from wagers, so why don't you talk to him for me...

Completion

Ah, so you've been speaking with MacKinley, have you?

It's not what he thinks! I'm not afraid to give him some Steamwheedle Bilge Rum...

I just don't have any rum to give him!

Gains

Quest progression

  1. N [45] Stoley's Debt
  2. N [45] Stoley's Shipment
  3. N [45] Deliver to MacKinley

External links