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| − | '''Thalassian''' is the language of the [[high elves]], [[half-elves]], [[half blood-elves]], and [[blood elves]] — a derivative of the [[Darnassian]] language of the [[night elves]]. It has both written and spoken equivalents. Individuals who are unfamiliar with the language's proper name may refer to it as ''high elven'' (not to be confused with the language [[Elven (language)|Elven]]). |
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| + | 'Spirit Beasts' are both a lore creature type and a WoW creature type. While the WoW type seems to be a subtype of the greater concept, they are all the glowing cat things AFAIK. I feel this page needs cleanup or at least a stub of some kind.--{{User:Sandwichman2448/Sig}} 18:15, 19 October 2008 (UTC) |
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| − | Like [[Nazja]], Thalassian is derived from the Darnassian language.<ref name="Thalassian576">http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/encyclopedia/576.xml</ref> The elder tongue is almost forgotten.<ref>''[[Day of the Dragon]]'', 136</ref> Hence, Thalassian is closely related to Darnassian and there is some overlap between the two languages. Further Darnassian utterances may therefore have been preserved in modern Thalassian.<ref name="Thalassian576">http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/encyclopedia/576.xml</ref> |
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| + | ==Different Kinds?== |
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| − | So far, linguistic scholars have opted to err on the side of caution in documenting Darnassian terms and phrases that are also considered part of the Thalassian language. Certainly this issue, however delicate, merits further research. Nevertheless, addressing a high elf or blood elf with a Darnassian-specific word or phrase can be considered offensive or at the very least rather foolish, and so the speaker must handle the situation with care.<ref name="Thalassian576"/> |
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| + | Right now there only seems to be one kind of Spirit Beast, which looks like a cat, and has the cat ability (Prowl) in addition to the special Spirit Beast ability (Spirit Strike). Does this mean that if there will be spirit beasts corresponding to other kinds of animals, will those have that animal's special ability coupled with Spirit Strike (Furious Howl/Spirit Strike for wolf, Swipe/Spirit Strike for bear, etc)? [[Image:INV Misc Orb 04.png|20px]]<span style="background:indigo; border:1px solid lime; padding:1px 3px 1px 3px; margin-left:4px; font-size:90%; font-variant: small-caps">'''''[[User:Xavius|<span style="color:lime; cursor:normal" title="All hail the Satyr Lord!"><u>Xavius, the Satyr Lord</u></span>]]'''''</span> 12:25, 20 November 2008 (UTC) |
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| + | :To follow up on this, a simple question: does Skoll have Prowl? [[Image:INV Misc Orb 04.png|20px]]<span style="background:indigo; border:1px solid lime; padding:1px 3px 1px 3px; margin-left:4px; font-size:90%; font-variant: small-caps">'''''[[User:Xavius|<span style="color:lime; cursor:normal" title="All hail the Satyr Lord!"><u>Xavius, the Satyr Lord</u></span>]]'''''</span> 23:31, 12 August 2009 (UTC) |
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| + | == Source == |
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| − | This is one of the four known elven dialects.<ref>''[[Cycle of Hatred]]'', 67</ref> |
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| + | I don't have either, but can someone confirm [http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Spirit_beast&diff=2093258&oldid=2090820 this change]? {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 05:48, November 2, 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | ==Thalassian Primer (official translations)== |
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| − | Here are a few common Thalassian phrases and words, for which the translations have been officially confirmed by [[Blizzard]]: |
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| + | :I've confirmed, the source is indeed in the HPG. Khymerion is correct. [[User:Benitoperezgaldos|Benitoperezgaldos]] ([[User talk:Benitoperezgaldos|talk]]) 05:57, November 2, 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | *'''Al diel shala''' = Safe travels.<ref name="Thalassian576"/> |
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| + | ::Thank you. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 06:25, November 2, 2009 (UTC) |
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| + | == Incorrect name == |
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| − | *'''Anar'alah''' = "By the light"<ref>''[[Arthas: Rise of the Lich King]]'', 231</ref> |
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| + | Soo-holu is NOT tamable. The correct name is Skarr. You turn into Soo-holu when you're doing one of the Oracles dailies from Sholazar. It's the same model, but a different beastie entirely. Wowpedia apparently does not have a page for him yet. Wowhead's is at [http://www.wowhead.com/npc=50815 Skarr]. (Not Skarr the Broken) --[[User:Azaram|Azaram]] ([[User talk:Azaram|talk]]) 07:32, 14 July 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | *'''Anar'alah belore''' = By the light of the sun.<ref name="Thalassian576"/> |
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| + | :Skarr isnt a spirit beast. I dont think they were confusing the two. That being said im not sure why sooholu is even on this page. ANd you are right we need a [[Skarr]] page.[[User:Warthok|Warthok]] ([[User talk:Warthok|talk]]) 07:43, 14 July 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | *'''Anaria shola''' = Speak your business.<ref name="Thalassian576"/> |
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| + | :Let us be clear... the named spirit beast section is not a list of tamable beasts, but a list of named or known spirit beasts. Soo-holu is believed to be a spirit beast and that is why he's there. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 08:24, 14 July 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | * '''Anar'endal dracon''' = By the breath of the dragon.<ref>''[[Revelations]]''</ref><ref>''[[Through the Mirror Darkly]]''</ref> |
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| − | *'''Ann'da''' = Papa<ref>''[[Descent]]'', 16</ref> |
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| − | *'''Anu belore dela'na''' = The sun guides us.<ref name="Thalassian576"/> |
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| − | *'''Bal'a dash, malanore''' = Greetings, traveler.<ref name="Thalassian576"/> |
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| − | *'''Ban'dinoriel''' = "Gatekeeper"<ref>''[[Arthas: Rise of the Lich King]]'', 227</ref> |
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| − | *'''Band'or shorel'aran''' — (Roughly) "Prepare to say farewell", spoken by [[Commander Sarannis]], officially translated in the Chinese version of WoW. |
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| − | *'''Bash'a no falor talah!''' = Taste the chill of true death!,<ref name="Thalassian576"/> Sylvanas Windrunner (WC3) |
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| − | *'''Belore''' = "The sun", though can mean to uncover something hidden or unknown if used in Darnassian.<ref>''[[Arthas: Rise of the Lich King]]'', 231</ref> |
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| − | *'''Doral ana'diel?''' = How fare you?<ref name="Thalassian576"/> |
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| − | *'''Felo'melorn''' = "Flamestrike"<ref>''[[Arthas: Rise of the Lich King]]'', 237</ref> |
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| − | *'''[[Kim'jael]]''' = "Little Rat" {{questlong|Neutral|53|Kim'jael Indeed!}} |
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| − | *'''[[Medivh]]''' = "Keeper of Secrets"<ref name="Thalassian576"/> {{Cite|W2Man|38}} <ref>''[[The Last Guardian]]''</ref> |
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| − | *'''Minn'da''' = Mama<ref>''[[Descent]]'', 16</ref> |
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| − | *'''[[Quel'dorei]]''' = "high elves",<ref name="LoC113">''[[Lands of Conflict]]'', 113</ref> or "the high elves".<ref>''[[Magic & Mayhem]]'', 16</ref>{{cite|M&M|16}} |
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| − | *'''[[Quel'Thalas]]''' = "High Kingdom" or "High Home"<ref name="LoC113"/> |
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| − | *'''[[Quel'Zaram]]''' = High Blade.<ref>''[[Shadows & Light]]'', 172</ref> |
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| − | *'''[[Quel'Danil]]''' = High Peak.<ref>''[[Lands of Conflict]]'', 100</ref> |
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| − | *'''Ronae''' = "Peaceful" used in [[Lordaeron]].<ref>''[[Lands of Conflict]]'', 19</ref> |
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| − | *'''Selama ashal'anore''' = Justice for our people.<ref name="Thalassian576"/> |
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| − | *'''Shindu fallah na!''' = They're breaking through!.<ref name="Thalassian576"/> |
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| − | *'''Shorel'aran''' = Farewell.<ref name="Thalassian576"/> |
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| − | *'''[[Sin'dorei]]''' = Children of the blood. This could also be interpreted as "people of the bloodline", referring to the continuation of the line of the [[Highborne]].<ref name="Thalassian576"/> |
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| − | *'''Sinu a'manore''' = Well met.<ref name="Thalassian576"/> |
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| − | *'''Sunstrider''' = "he who walks the day"<ref name="Thalassian576"/> |
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| − | *'''Vendel'o eranu''' = "Help me forget".<ref>''[[Beyond the Dark Portal]]'', 204</ref><ref>''[[Beyond the Dark Portal]]'', 238</ref> |
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| − | ===High elven names=== |
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| − | The past is a burden to the high elves, yet they maintain naming rituals that are millennia old. Many of the names of elven priests and heroes have become the names used for elves in modern times. The high elves share a connection with the sun that is quite prevalent in their choice of family names. |
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| − | * Male Names: Mariel, Athaniar, Anandor, Tharama, Viridiel, Malanior. |
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| − | * Female Names: Anarial, Freja, Driana, Coria, Alanassori, Melanion, Azshara. |
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| − | * Family Names: Boughstrider, Dawnblade, Lightbringer, Morningray, Suntreader. |
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| − | {{Cite|WoWRPG|37}} |
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| − | === Untranslated words or phrases === |
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| − | * '''[[An'daroth]]''' — One of the three [[Ghostlands]] Darnassian spy encampments. Possibly Darnassian? |
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| − | * '''[[An'owyn]]''' — One of the three [[Ghostlands]] Darnassian spy encampments. Possibly Darnassian? |
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| − | * '''[[An'telas]]''' — One of the three [[Ghostlands]] Darnassian spy encampments. Possibly Darnassian? |
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| − | * '''Aranal, ledel!''' - [[Prince Keleseth]] |
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| − | * '''Anara'nel belore''' — [[Kael'thas]] |
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| − | * '''Balamore shanal!''' — [[Kael'thas]] |
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| − | * '''Bandal!''' — High Nethermancer Zerevor |
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| − | * '''Belesa menoor!''' — High Nethermancer Zerevor |
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| − | * '''Diel fin'al.''' — [[High Nethermancer Zerevor]] |
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| − | * '''[[Elrendar]]''' — a [[Quel'Thalas]] river and a waterfall, both fed by a lake with the same name. |
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| − | * '''Endala finel endal!''' — Nethermancer Sepethrea |
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| − | * '''Endorel aluminor''' — High Botanist Freywinn |
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| − | * '''[[Falthrien]]''' — an arcane academy on [[Sunstrider Isle]]. |
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| − | * '''[[Falithas]]''' — One of the runestones protecting [[Eversong]] from the plague. |
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| − | * '''Felomin ashal''' — Kael'thas in [[Magister's Terrace]] |
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| − | * '''[[Isle of Quel'Danas|Quel'Danas]]''' — Island home of the [[dragonhawk]]s and location of the [[Sunwell]]. |
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| − | * '''[[Quel'Lithien]]''' — A quel'dorei lodge in [[Eastern Plaguelands]], and location of the Silvermoon City Register. |
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| − | * '''Selama am'oronor!''' — [[High Nethermancer Zerevor]] |
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| − | * '''Selama amor'anore!''' — Gathios the Shatterer |
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| − | * '''[[Shalandis]]''' — An island off the coast of the western [[Ghostlands]], headquarters of Darnassian spying missions against Silvermoon City. |
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| − | * '''[[Shan'dor]]''' — One of the runestones protecting [[Eversong]] from the plague. |
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| − | * '''Tal anu'men no Sin'dorei!''' — High Astromancer Solarian |
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| − | *'''[[Tel'thas, Dagger of the Blood King|Tel'thas]]''' - Dagger of the Blood King |
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| − | ==Thalassian speculation== |
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| − | {{Speculation}} |
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| − | === Thalassian word parser === |
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| − | This is the list of words created by the in-game language parser for the Thalassian language, and is listed as language number ten (word range 800-901) in the Language text file. |
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| − | In the in-game translator, the language parser for Thalassian shares similar words with the Darnassian parser. |
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| − | Note: The language algorithm used by the in-game "translator" merely makes the words look like Thalassian. It does not actually translate words. Therefore, translated in-game speech isn't truly Thalassian. |
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| − | | One-letter words |
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| − | | A, N, I, O, E, D |
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| − | | Two-letter words |
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| − | | Da, Lo, An, Ni, Al, Do, Ri, Su, No |
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| − | | Three-letter words |
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| − | | Ano, Dur, Tal, Nei, Ash, Dor, Anu, Fal, Tur, Ala, Nor, Osa |
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| − | | Four-letter words |
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| − | | Alah, Andu, Dath, Mush, Shar, Thus, Fulo, Aman, Diel, Dieb, Rini, Anar |
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| − | | Five-letter words |
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| − | | Talah, Adore, Ishnu, Bandu, Balah, Fandu, Thera, Turus, Shari, Shano, Terro, Eburi |
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| − | | Six-letter words |
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| − | | Dorini, Shando, Ethala, Fallah, Belore, Do'rah, Neph'o, Man'ar, Ishura, U'phol, T'as'e |
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| − | | Seven-letter words |
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| − | | Asto're, Anoduna, Alah'ni, Dor'Ano, Al'shar, Mush'al, Aman'ni, Shan're |
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| − | | Eight-letter words |
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| − | | Mandalas, Eraburis, Dorithur, Dal'dieb, Thoribas, D'ana'no, Il'amare |
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| − | | Nine-letter words |
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| − | | Neph'anis, Dune'adah, Banthalos, Fala'andu, Dath'anar, Shari'fal, Thori'dal |
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| − | | Ten-letter words |
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| − | | Thero'shan, Isera'duna, Ash'therod, Dorados'no, Shar'adore |
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| − | | Eleven-letter words |
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| − | | Fandu'talah, Shari'adune |
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| − | | Twelve-letter words |
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| − | | Dor'ana'badu, T'ase'mushal |
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| − | | Thirteen-letter words |
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| − | | U'phol'belore |
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| − | | Fourteen-letter words |
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| − | | Turus'il'amare, Anu'dorannador |
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| − | | Fifteen-letter words |
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| − | | Asto're'dunadah |
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| − | | Sixteen-letter words |
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| − | | Shindu'fallah'na |
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| − | | Seventeen-letter words |
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| − | | Thoribas'no'thera, Ando'meth'derador, Anu'dorinni'talah, Esh'thero'mannash |
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| − | === Translations speculation === |
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| − | For fan translations see [[Thalassian/speculation]]. |
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| − | === Darnassian vs. Thalassian speculation === |
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| − | Of note, [[Kael'thas]] greeted [[Tyrande]] and [[Maiev]] with "Ishnu'Alah" when [[Shards of the Alliance|they met]] in the Plaguelands. This may mean that some of the words still have the same meaning in both languages, or that some phrases have, over thousands of years, lost their offensive implications in their respective languages. |
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| − | === History speculation === |
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| − | After the [[high elves]] were exiled from [[Kalimdor]] by the [[night elves]], they set up in the [[Eastern Kingdoms]]. There, they lived for millennia, cultivating their culture and their magic. Because of their long life spans, Thalassian, as they called their language, still retains parts of the old language. In fact, it is possible that Thalassian is not therefore a separate language, and is merely a dialect of Darnassian. Even if this were the case, however, the two languages would still not be mutually intelligible. |
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| − | == Thalassian Outside the Warcraft Universe == |
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| − | An award-winning song from the 2007 Blizzcon Song Contest was "Belore Shala Diel", sung in Thalassian and English, by Phillip Presswood (Xalea). |
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| − | == References == |
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| − | {{Reflist}} |
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| − | == External links == |
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| − | {{welink|576}} |
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| − | {{language links}} |
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| − | [[es:Thalassiano]] |
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| − | [[pl:Thalassian]] |
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| − | [[ru:Талассианский]] |
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| − | [[Category:Languages]] |
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Revision as of 08:24, 14 July 2011
Split
'Spirit Beasts' are both a lore creature type and a WoW creature type. While the WoW type seems to be a subtype of the greater concept, they are all the glowing cat things AFAIK. I feel this page needs cleanup or at least a stub of some kind.--SWM2448 18:15, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
Different Kinds?
Right now there only seems to be one kind of Spirit Beast, which looks like a cat, and has the cat ability (Prowl) in addition to the special Spirit Beast ability (Spirit Strike). Does this mean that if there will be spirit beasts corresponding to other kinds of animals, will those have that animal's special ability coupled with Spirit Strike (Furious Howl/Spirit Strike for wolf, Swipe/Spirit Strike for bear, etc)? 
Xavius, the Satyr Lord 12:25, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
- To follow up on this, a simple question: does Skoll have Prowl?
Xavius, the Satyr Lord 23:31, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Source
I don't have either, but can someone confirm this change? 
(Sssss/Slithered) 05:48, November 2, 2009 (UTC)
- I've confirmed, the source is indeed in the HPG. Khymerion is correct. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 05:57, November 2, 2009 (UTC)
Incorrect name
Soo-holu is NOT tamable. The correct name is Skarr. You turn into Soo-holu when you're doing one of the Oracles dailies from Sholazar. It's the same model, but a different beastie entirely. Wowpedia apparently does not have a page for him yet. Wowhead's is at Skarr. (Not Skarr the Broken) --Azaram (talk) 07:32, 14 July 2011 (UTC)