User talk:D. F. Schmidt

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Hah! You're and Admin now also!

Congratulations! Now other people can bug you and not me. Remember to throw your weight around... LOL.

-)

--Fandyllic 10:36 AM PST 8 Mar 2006

I totally plan to. Haha. Well, I've been trying to work only in the same vein as other good contributors, such as killing all the stuff in Category:Terminated articles. Stuff like that. Anyways, I'll get a feel for what I can get away with soon enough. :D Schmidt 17:48, 8 Mar 2006 (EST)

Congratz !!!--Kirochi 14:02, 8 Mar 2006 (EST)

API

It's work in progress, usually i move trough 1 stage or flood of pages at a time, rather than 1 page at a time. I like having the "todo" list available trough the Stubs page, as it encloses mostly all pages. It may seem odd at some times, but its a comfortable way to work, all incomplete pages are visible trough a single area, rather than having to search for them.... Also just re-categorized a couple deprecared stubs as well.

btw, shouldn't the API pages get their own {Stub} subcategory like the other stubs? CJ 06:37, 8 Mar 2006 (EST)

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Yeah, to my understanding, they should get their own stub tag. I mean, it just makes sense. I think it's {{API/Uncategorized}}, but {{stub/api}} would make more sense.

As I think on it now, well, if you were offended by how I said what I said, then I'm sorry, but just so you know, you had re-created a bunch of blank articles (well, having no content anyways, just a tag) that I had just deleted. Someone else had made a note before me on the [[talk:World of Warcraft API#Still more red than blue|]] discussion page expressing irritation at the fact that so many articles linked from there were empty stubs. I agree, so I deleted them. Then just a few hours later you created them anew! I can't think of anything especially good to recommend, but what I just said on your page: If you don't have anything to add but a tag, it's better to leave it uncreated.

That said, what are you working on with those articles you created? Read: Do you mind if I delete any of those API stubs? Schmidt 11:42, 8 Mar 2006 (EST)

Was just on my usual stubbing spree :P trying to normalize and equalize pages, ( as seen in the page with Bow and all connected, Armor sets, and soon the talent pages. did some background searching on the API area,, but couldnt find anywhere to get the info from.. so ill probably leave that area to those with more experience in those. feel free to delete whatever is non functional from there. CJ 08:52, 10 Mar 2006 (EST)

help !

We are flooded by spam bots right now !! .. can't they be blocked by IP address.. this is obviously the work of 1 person.
and, no problem, delete the api articles with only stub in them. CJ 08:46, 10 Mar 2006 (EST)

I assume you didn't see it. In WoWWiki talk:Known vandals, I mentioned that anyone sharing an IP with any blocked user will automatically be blocked. See the block log as I linked it there. It's right near the top. And as you can tell, I've been working a lot on making vandals easier to block. Hopefully this will either dissuade them from continuing the mission or else just make it easier for us to do our jobs. :) Schmidt 09:34, 10 Mar 2006 (EST)

ah so i ssee, they're probably using a router or spoof to generate random ips though.. but time will tell. CJ 10:14, 10 Mar 2006 (EST)

thoughts

What do ya think of this template:

Classes
Class races	Death Knight	Demon Hunter	Druid	Ev	Hunter	Mage	Monk	Paladin	Priest	Rogue	Shaman	Warlock	Warrior
Quests	Death Knight	Demon Hunter	Druid	Evuid	Hunter	Mage	Monk	Paladin	Priest	Rogue	Shaman	Warlock	Warrior
Abilities	Death Knight	Demon Hunter	Druid	Evuid	Hunter	Mage	Monk	Paladin	Priest	Rogue	Shaman	Warlock	Warrior
Trainers	Death Knight	Demon Hunter	Druid	-	Hunter	Mage	Monk	Paladin	Priest	Rogue	Shaman	Warlock	Warrior
Armor sets	Death Knight	Demon Hunter	Druid	Evuid	Hunter	Mage	Monk	Paladin	Priest	Rogue	Shaman	Warlock	Warrior
Useful macros	Death Knight	Demon Hunter	Druid	-	Hunter	Mage	Monk	Paladin	Priest	Rogue	Shaman	Warlock	Warrior
Class Halls	Death Knight	Demon Hunter	Druid	-	Hunter	Mage	Monk	Paladin	Priest	Rogue	Shaman	Warlock	Warrior

CJ 11:27, 10 Mar 2006 (EST)

Ya know, I was just looking at that. I had an idea of making it look like the chart on class or category:classes, but I don't know. It'd probably be too big, especially if you're planning to have this on many pages. But that was just an idea, and probably a bad one. That especially considering the scope of this template doesn't even concern race. It looks alright I guess, but it might be better to abbreviate each class to make it a little easier to read, and it might look better in a table format. Such as having the class name heading each column, and heading each row have Class (maybe), but also Talents, Builds, and Set Items. Then each cell could contain either an abbreviation of the class name (to make it more readable when reading across, since the width is greater than the height) or perhaps an abbreviation (or the name) of Talents, Builds, etc.

That's my thoughts on it. Do what you want. :D Schmidt 11:35, 10 Mar 2006 (EST)

yeh, does look like it'll end up too large. i'll look at it before putting it on every single related page. so.. any comments on this other one? :P CJ 07:34, 13 Mar 2006 (EST)

That looks a little better, more readable. For me (don't know about your or anyone else), the "Set Items" appears on two lines. If you want me to, I can see what I can do about that. Schmidt 22:38, 13 March 2006 (EST)

looks like on 1 line on my computer. hmm. CJ 01:47, 14 March 2006 (EST)

Well I fixed how it appears on my screen by changing the width of the first column as 5.5em. If that screws anything up just change it. Schmidt 16:37, 23 March 2006 (EST)

new feature n stuff

Sometimes a page has a : [Mark as patrolled] tag in the bottom. not sure, but what does this do..?

I have no clue what you mean by this. If you have a specific page in mind, it'd be nice to get a link to that page. I've never seen it myself. If you know of a page with this in it, let me know and I might be able to see what's up with it. Schmidt 17:18, 16 March 2006 (EST)

Oh, I think I know what it is. If one of us (maybe just admins, but maybe others too) clicks "Mark this edit as patrolled" or something like that in the edit screen, it basically makes it so it is a confirmed edit. Schmidt 18:25, 16 March 2006 (EST)

Hmm. i only see the option on pages after an edit,, though i see no clear reason why it sometimes is there, and sometimes its not. once you click it, it doesnt return. CJ 04:26, 17 March 2006 (EST)

here is one: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Zeeka&rcid=8198 , not sure how long itll stay like that though CJ 07:06, 17 March 2006 (EST)

Had the same question and did some research. Looks like it is just a new security type feature. When you look at the Recent Changes section there is a bunch of red exclamation points on all the edits. If you click on the diff right under the current revision section and the persons name is the link to mark as patrolled. Clicking this link means that you have verified this edit as something that contributes to the page and is not junk, vandalism, spam, etc. If it is a new page then the link is at the bottom right like your example above. The benefit of this is that people looking at the recent changes and are simply making sure that the edits 'good' edits can only look at the edits with exclamation marks. Assuming that everyone that verified an edit click the marked as patrolled item, it would make it less time consuming for people. Rather than 5 people looking at the diff for the same 10 pages to make sure they were good, they could each be looking at 10 different edits. Patrolling edits--Ralthor 01:56, 6 April 2006 (EDT)

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Clear case of Wikisquatting: Children of Light , not sure what you usually do about such cases. CJ 02:44, 15 March 2006 (EST)

I don't think I can make a judgement on this myself. Me, I have no arguments against it, especially since it looks like all information related to this is on one page alone. So basically, if their information wasn't here, then they would need a host elsewhere for only one page, as it seems. And in that case, if it wasn't a wiki elsewhere, then they could have only one member edit it. Above all, this page you speak of has nothing to do with anything outside WOW (that is to say, everything is game-related). The example on WoWWiki:Wikisquatting makes mention of a bulletin board that comp-sci guys use and someone decides to post a music flyer or something on it. In the case of Children of Light, the parallel would perhaps be someone posting a TigerDirect or Mozilla flyer. So I'm going to have to say that maybe Fandyllic would know better what to do. Schmidt 17:18, 16 March 2006 (EST)

seems to me there is a bit overmuch usage on that page, which they could use on their message board, which is linked at the top, and stated that all info "is" in fact slowly being moved there. CJ 04:29, 17 March 2006 (EST)

It's probably worth noting, as well, that that is Fandyllic's guild. The fact that an admin is in it is probably enough to say that it's okay. Plus, like you said, it looks like they're going to migrate some stuff over to their forum. At least they're not talking about their Guild Wars or Everquest guild, you know. Anyways, Fandyllic knows what he's doing, and I'm fine with it. Schmidt 20:53, 25 March 2006 (EST)

CJ, I think you need to have a better defense of saying the Children of Light page is wikisquatting. So far your only concrete criticism is that "there is a bit overmuch usage on that page". Advertising your WoW guild on WoWWiki is a perfectly okay usage of WoWWiki unless you don't put helpful information about your guild (not saying what server, is especially lame). If I were looking at it, the main criticism I would have would be the stuff on the discussion page, but that really isn't being used (I should delete it). Having a guild roster might be questionable, but putting it on a wiki makes much more sense than a forum thread or a regular website.

I also would have appreciated if you had complained to me directly rather than going to Schmidt. Please clearly state your criticisms, not vague stuff. --Fandyllic 3:08 PM PST 27 mar 2006

My guess is that he didn't realize that it was your guild. At least I didn't, until several days after he brought it to my attention. But I have to say even then that I probably would have said the same thing as you, Fandyllic. Schmidt 18:20, 27 March 2006 (EST)

Nice work on removing all the junk API articles

Thanks for purging all the post-spambot junk from the API section!

Thanks for noticing. It was something I had been wanting to do for a long time. I deleted all the articles that didn't have anything in them other than Template:Tlink. I did check the history on all of them, just so you know. And if there was anything more than just that tag, then I left it alone. There are many talk pages associated with the ones I deleted. I didn't really know what to do, so I just left them untouched. Schmidt 00:46, 17 March 2006 (EST)

war3

Any thoughts at removing most of the warcraft 3 info from the wiki? Category_talk:Elves : CJ 09:16, 20 March 2006 (EST)

If bot link in vandal and block templates

What is the need for this extra link? As far as I can tell it just does the same as normal contributions... --Fandyllic 10:05 PM PDT 1 May 2006

From what I've read, it makes it so that when you rollback each page, it flags that reversion as a bot reversion of sorts, so it stays in the page history, but it doesn't put it in the recent changes list, provided that you (any user) don't have "show bots" selected. I know this isn't the best wording of what I'm trying to convey, but it's the best I can do right now. Let me know if you still don't know what it's for. Schmidt 01:26, 2 May 2006 (EDT)