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I've seen this issue a few times from a few different people, but Jewels are gems. An uncut raw Gem does change when it is cut, it's a refining process. The things you put in pieces of gear are CUT gems, not jewels. With this line of reasoning, if you want a separate category for raw gems and cut gems, I'd say a sub-category for RAW gems is required for a distinction. The term Gem is much more widely used than Jewel, and there is no Blizzard documentation that I have come across that suggests that they should be considered Jewels. The profession is Jewelcrafting because it sounds better than gemccrafting, and the jewel factor comes into play with the JEWELRY that is made as part of the profession (rings and necklaces). So, again, cut gems are NOT jewels, and this category is broken in my opinion, so please don't change and Gem category items to Jewel category as these two categories are redundant. Jewel categories needs to be replaced by Gem categories, not the other way around. There doesn't seem to be an official authority on the category issue, but if you contact an admin that shares similar views as you, please put me in contact with this person so we can get this straight. --[[User:ShardeeDetheroc|ShardeeDetheroc]] 20:29, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
 
I've seen this issue a few times from a few different people, but Jewels are gems. An uncut raw Gem does change when it is cut, it's a refining process. The things you put in pieces of gear are CUT gems, not jewels. With this line of reasoning, if you want a separate category for raw gems and cut gems, I'd say a sub-category for RAW gems is required for a distinction. The term Gem is much more widely used than Jewel, and there is no Blizzard documentation that I have come across that suggests that they should be considered Jewels. The profession is Jewelcrafting because it sounds better than gemccrafting, and the jewel factor comes into play with the JEWELRY that is made as part of the profession (rings and necklaces). So, again, cut gems are NOT jewels, and this category is broken in my opinion, so please don't change and Gem category items to Jewel category as these two categories are redundant. Jewel categories needs to be replaced by Gem categories, not the other way around. There doesn't seem to be an official authority on the category issue, but if you contact an admin that shares similar views as you, please put me in contact with this person so we can get this straight. --[[User:ShardeeDetheroc|ShardeeDetheroc]] 20:29, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
   
Ah ok sorry :P
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:Ah ok sorry :P
I will change the cut Jewels to gems instead then :) or am i wrong again? :P [[User:Elrox|Elrox]] 09:30, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
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:I will change the cut Jewels to gems instead then :) or am i wrong again? :P [[User:Elrox|Elrox]] 09:30, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
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::Honestly, you're not exactly wrong and it's kind of an opinion thing. I just thought I'd share my opinion and see what you thought. I haven't referred it to any "higher up" people yet, so I'm still pretty up in the air about it all.
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::but like I said above, I believe that the only "Jewels" in Jewelcrafting are the rings and necklaces. The uncut gems and cut gems to be used for sockets are, in my opinion, just "gems." So if you want to agree with what I said, yes, cut Jewels would be in the Category:Gems division.
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::I'd love to hear a different perspective on this, however, but it seems to me that you were simply changing things to match something else (which may have been an incorrect thing to match to depending on your perspective). --[[User:ShardeeDetheroc|ShardeeDetheroc]] 21:11, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

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Hey, I love what you're doing with all the NPCs. I know I don't have the energy to look up all that stuff. One request though: could you label your edits as minor? Looking through the recent changes combing for big edits would be easier if I could hide your edits (I trust that all your edits are great additions to WoWwiki). Pzychotix 22:22, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

hehe sure i can :) just didnt notice the minor edit button, i haven't been on wowwiki for very long :) Elrox 19:41, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

So if i add text i should just post normal but if i only corrct spelling mistakes and add the npc info stuff i just mark them as minor? :) Elrox 19:45, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Just about. Think that anything that doesn't require any thought is minor. Keep up the good work! Pzychotix 21:11, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

ok thx ^^ Elrox 10:01, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Gunman

Is there a specific unit called a goblin gunmen? Otherwise I wouldn't say the ones in gadgetzan are specifically "gunmen", they could be any number of gun firing classes...Baggins 18:56, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Hmm dont know if they are called gunmen. I think they are called Snipers. should i just remove that part agian then? :) Elrox 18:58, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Ya, remove it.Baggins 19:10, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

ok done :) Elrox 19:12, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. But here's hoping we can find a specific gunman in the future in the game :).Baggins 19:13, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

^^ Elrox 19:14, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Gems, not Jewels

I've seen this issue a few times from a few different people, but Jewels are gems. An uncut raw Gem does change when it is cut, it's a refining process. The things you put in pieces of gear are CUT gems, not jewels. With this line of reasoning, if you want a separate category for raw gems and cut gems, I'd say a sub-category for RAW gems is required for a distinction. The term Gem is much more widely used than Jewel, and there is no Blizzard documentation that I have come across that suggests that they should be considered Jewels. The profession is Jewelcrafting because it sounds better than gemccrafting, and the jewel factor comes into play with the JEWELRY that is made as part of the profession (rings and necklaces). So, again, cut gems are NOT jewels, and this category is broken in my opinion, so please don't change and Gem category items to Jewel category as these two categories are redundant. Jewel categories needs to be replaced by Gem categories, not the other way around. There doesn't seem to be an official authority on the category issue, but if you contact an admin that shares similar views as you, please put me in contact with this person so we can get this straight. --ShardeeDetheroc 20:29, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Ah ok sorry :P
I will change the cut Jewels to gems instead then :) or am i wrong again? :P Elrox 09:30, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
Honestly, you're not exactly wrong and it's kind of an opinion thing. I just thought I'd share my opinion and see what you thought. I haven't referred it to any "higher up" people yet, so I'm still pretty up in the air about it all.
but like I said above, I believe that the only "Jewels" in Jewelcrafting are the rings and necklaces. The uncut gems and cut gems to be used for sockets are, in my opinion, just "gems." So if you want to agree with what I said, yes, cut Jewels would be in the Category:Gems division.
I'd love to hear a different perspective on this, however, but it seems to me that you were simply changing things to match something else (which may have been an incorrect thing to match to depending on your perspective). --ShardeeDetheroc 21:11, 10 September 2007 (UTC)