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Again welcome!--SWM2448 16:27, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

As for the Nozdormu part at Infinite Flight

Well, they're actually not black but more or less a swirling, half-solid mass of dark energy streams. Another point why i go with saying -the old gods hacked into Nozdormu's power---Maibe (talk) 15:10, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

idea page rules

If you haven't taken the time to read the read the rules at the beginning of the idea pages, please do.

Also if you have read it, its not an excuse to ignore it.

Third, its always best to discuss your changes in the talk pages for race idea pages, to see if others agree.

Fourth, try to avoid taking sources you might site, out of context. The underground reference for example was not to the Forsaken, but the Dark Iron dwarves storyline already seen in-game and the Gnomer questlines.Baggins (talk) 18:09, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

it may also mean something else. dark irons yes, but something else TOO User:Noobi666 (talk) 18:32, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Retrieved from "http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Baggins"

No that excuse won't work... I am a competetent reader, and I happened to notice you removed the sentence preceding the sentence you misused, in the same paragraph. It was that previous sentence specified and qualified which "underground race" it was talking about. It was very specific in pointing out it was talking about the Dark Iron dwarves. There is no excuse for doing that. If I catch you doing anything like that again, there will be consequences.
I'll let your user idea page pass, since it is on a user page. However, there will be a warning that you took a paragraph from the book you cited out of context on at least the talk page.Baggins (talk) 18:45, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
For continuing to ignore the page rules (not discussing major changes first), twisting information, taking things out of context, inserting false information, and invalid or weak points (the ones that lead to pure weakly supported speculation), you have earned yourself a 1 week ban. I'd suggest when you return, that you don't edit that page, and only discuss changes in the talk page. If we agree the admins will change the page for you.Baggins (talk) 18:54, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Edit wars & speculation

Please avoid edit warring with other users, and admins, User:Gourra. Also as we have mentioned before speculation without citations (it needs citations that strongly support the speculation) are frowned upon. Speculation should be at the end of a page, and should at least make sense.

BTW, polygamy means "multiple marriage" it is actual marriage. A concubine is someone who isn't married that lives with a man. So concubines have nothing to do with "marriage".Baggins (talk) 00:53, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

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Noobi666, there was something you said about my speculation that irks me to no end.

What makes you think the birthing of humans was "evolution"? None of the other creations of the Titans really "evoled", at least not without being afflicted with the Curse of Flesh, which really doesn't count seeing as how it's a curse, and it isn't really natural. Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart (talk) 19:57, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

curse of flesh turns stone and metal into flesh. everything else i speculation. stay in facts. end of story. Noobi666 (talk) 20:01, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Ahhh, yes, I remember something else now...

You say vrykul always had flesh.

Care to explain Sjonnir The Ironshaper then?

Also, what you just said makes no sense. Please re-phrase. Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart (talk) 20:12, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

sigh....old ones cursed EARTHENS, try to reading sometimes Noobi666 (talk) 20:15, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Lol, I could say the same about YOU.

The Curse of Flesh article says that some of the constructs of the Titans were affected. That most likely affected vrykul too, seeing Sjonnir over there -waves at him-.

So, who needs to try reading sometimes now, hmm? Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart (talk) 20:16, 26 September 2008 (UTC)


so you mean iron vrykul - flesh vrykul - humans? but if flesh vrykuls breed normally, why do they give birth to humans and how is curse of flesh related to it Noobi666 (talk) 20:21, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Like I said, severe side-effect. Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart (talk) 20:22, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

does not make sense IMO. so, in theory, normal dwarves could give birth to gnomes? Noobi666 (talk) 20:25, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

If they were related to eachother, maybe. But they aren't. The Tribunal of Ages says that they're all seed races. Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart (talk) 20:27, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

it still sounds weird Noobi666 (talk) 20:28, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

/shrug. Well, if some of my past experiences here are to believe, not everyone has the same sight as I do. Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart (talk) 20:31, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

agree Noobi666 (talk) 20:32, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Stone constructs

You are being asked to cease and desist of removal of citations from pages concerning stone guardians, stone watchers, and stone keepers. Blizzard often uses those terms interchangeably in sources, and apply them to different things. Yes we know the ingame models also have different names. If the info is properly cited from official source do nto remove it.

Also as a rule we avoid using model names as sure fire race designation, we resort more to published or in game quotes instead, if they clarify things.

Any future modifications and removal of those pages will be seen as trolling those pages.Baggins (talk) 23:29, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Ah, sorry, my bad, wont do it agan, thanks for advice Noobi666 (talk) 06:16, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

No hard feelings, and again welcome to WoWWiki.Baggins (talk) 08:04, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

by the way, stone Loken was mentioned as statue, i thought he is titan, which is true? Noobi666 (talk) 12:16, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

doesn't loken use the titan model? We know nothing about the things using the titan model, other than that they use the titan model...Baggins (talk) 10:14, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

half-elf

If that section is to stay in the article, there is not to be any twisting of information.

1. half-sindorei is not an official term. They are the half-blood elves.

2. Half-blood elves do not exist yet, they are currently hypothetical possibility. Humans and blood elves have to fix their problems and get back together before it is likely to happen. But you need to read the rpg to fully undertand this.

3. half-blood elves are a seperate category and race than half-elves.

Finally, be very careful to avoid too much speculation on those pages. If it is caught it will be removed, if it isn't properly cited, and accurately cited.Baggins (talk) 10:14, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

  • cough*half-orc*cough* *cought*haliscan*cought*

ok ^^ Noobi666 (talk) 10:16, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes, speculation sections and pages can exist.
However, the race ideas and like pages are strongly protected due to the fact they are heavily edited, and often turn into edit wars. We have cracked down on those pages for that reason.Baggins (talk) 10:20, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

yeah, but half orcs still exist though humans have always been at war with them. Noobi666 (talk) 10:27, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

There is no problem with making a half-orc article, as they currently exist, however, its irrelevent to compare them to half-blood elves. Which according to the RPG (consequently the only source that even suggests the idea of their future existence) won't exist until at least 20 years in the future, if they will exist at all.Baggins (talk) 10:32, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Northeron and Hinterlands

Actually Hinterlands does not appear in Day of the Dragon by that term. Northeron and Hinterlands may be the same location, or they may be seperate locations, or Northeron may be a location within Hinterlands. We do know that the HInterlands existed during the Second War thanks to Tides of Darkness novel.Baggins (talk) 18:45, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Isnt that pritty self-evident? Noobi666 (talk) 18:47, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

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