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Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Baggins (talk) 11:05, 19 March 2009

Sleeping Giants

As of 12-10-08, my screenshots clearly show that Sleeping Giants (Alliance) is unlocked by Of Keys and Cages (Alliance). The quest text and the emote after turning in the quest are quite explicit.

You are right that it is a "side quest", but as it is unlocked by the former, it still deserves mention. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 18:35, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm, it's not the linear continuation of the quest itself, but as you agree a sidestep, and I tried to display it as such, trying to mimick the style used also for e.g. the unlocking of Valgarde quests at the beginning of Howling Fjord. Another motivation for the change was that while planning my own quests in the area, I expected to need 3 round-trips to Gjalerbron, which clearly isn't the case -- with only 2 roundtrips one can complete all quests there. Qurai (talk) 10:53, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Details like needing 3 (2) round trips is a good addition to notes on a quest chain page. That chain is on the low end of what I have been writing chain pages for, but that's no restriction on you, certainly. Care to flesh out a chain page for it? --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 18:47, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Quest: Basic Training

My point in this is that "the story continues (with this other chain)". On a quest chain page (when/if I get around to it), I would make them separate chapters, and note in the intro that yes, they were unlinked as you say. Do you have a better thought on expressing that relationship? --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 16:28, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

And yes, entirely possible that I have overlooked something in haste. I do that, you know. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 16:30, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
Funny, this depends entirely on your point of view... Do you view a chain as a logical set of steps to complete in order, possibly the most efficient one? In that case it's basically two chains instead of one. Or do you view it as a story? Since in that case (lore-wise), indeed it's only one chain. For one reason or another Blizzard made it so that you can get the fragment that starts Puzzling before you're on Cracking the Code, so in my mind it's 2 chains. But if you read the quest text closely it's better to complete all quests as a single in-order chain. Your call :) -- Qurai (talk) 12:00, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
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