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Raylan13

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39,114 Edits since joining this wiki
November 29, 2010
  • I live in Seattle area
  • My occupation is Content Editor
  • I am /facepalming a little too much...

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I'm back! Edit

Tankingmage (talk) 10:48, August 16, 2014 (UTC)

Woot! Glad to hear it Smiley Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 16:40, August 16, 2014 (UTC)

Current Project Edit

As my Youtube series WoW Pro Lore will hopefully at some point cover all of WoW Lore, with some mini series to go into more detail about certain points in WoW's history. I've noticed how incomplete the timeline is, along with many pages missing information which is relevant to them and present elsewhere in the wiki. So I'm going to revamp the timeline, adding in as much detail as possible, so that all significant events are listed there. I will also focus on fixing pre Mists-Logo-Small lore and fixing the irregularities there. Appologies for going AWOL. Tankingmage (talk) 16:49, August 19, 2014 (UTC)

Rewards vs GainsEdit

Shouldn't these be listed in separate sections? "Rewards" are what the quest states you get for completion, while "Gains" are unannounced until the quest is complete. For example, a level 25 character will get the same rewards (cash, loot) as a level 85 character for completing a quest, but the XP they gain will be based on scaling. Reputation gains aren't listed in the quest log (in the basic, no add-on, out-of-the-box Blizz quest log), so they should not be listed as "rewards". This is how Wowhead is set up, and I assumed the same would go for the wiki. AlexSUCF (talk) 21:27, August 21, 2014 (UTC)

OK, do we want to use "Rewards" or "Gains" as the section header? I feel we should keep it consistent across all (as many as possible?) quest pages.
AlexSUCF (talk) 23:43, August 21, 2014 (UTC)

Modification to Quest template (NYI) Edit

I merged the existing {{quest}} template and my {{U}} template into a single one that won't break any existing quest links but also formats the links with "(Part 1)" as small text outside of the link.
Example:
Current {{quest}} link: The Missing Diplomat (3)
Link using {{U}}: The Missing Diplomat (Part 3)
Link using {{Test}}: (Removed cos it's been changed)
I noticed that the only way to get the tool-tip to appear was to use {{quest}}, but the way {{U}} displays the link looks much prettier IMHO. I didn't want to change a core template (again...sorry...) without running the change past a lead admin first tho. I can also modify the {{questlong}} template to do the same. Lemme know what you think. If approved, I'll go through the pages that use {{U}} and change them back to {{quest}}, and then you can delete {{U}}. Well, not delete "you". Just delete {{U}}.
AlexSUCF (talk) 02:52, August 23, 2014 (UTC)

I'd also like your feedback on {{Test1}}...it is an update to {{Questchain}} in that it adds a link to Quest chain after the name of the chain. It also incorporates the catches from the original template (display name is field 2 and "alt text" is field 3). Docs can be written/revised if you approve of the change.
AlexSUCF (talk) 03:56, August 23, 2014 (UTC)
I made tooltips work on {{U}}. I'm not sure what {{Test}} is for, but it looks like there just needs to be more spans with put in all the links to get tooltips to work there also. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 23 Aug 2014 9:56 AM Pacific
I made {{Test}} as a combination of {{U}} and {{Quest}}, so that i wouldn't break {{Quest}} on all of the pages it is used on. But if you've already added the tooltip coding to {{U}} then I suppose there's no need to do that. I'll go ahead and repurpose {{Test}} today for another project I'm working on. Templates are one of my fortes. Thanks for the support :)
AlexSUCF (talk · contr) 21:14, August 24, 2014 (UTC)


More on Quests...Edit

I don't know if you or Fandyllic have noticed, but I've been working on some fancy new imitation displays for the paperdoll and quest log. Paperdoll is already completed, and active at Template:Paperdoll (though I haven't had a chance to fix that page's outdated documentation yet). I just finished preliminary work on the quest log which you can check out at the (revamped) test page...which I won't directly link here cos when that page changes again it'll make your talk page look all funky (that's why I took the link to it out from our previous conversation). If you like the quest log look, I can start implementing it on pages as I go through them. The idea (once I finish the other two portions of it, which won't take long at all now) is that instead of the Objectives/Description/Progress/Completion sections on quest pages, the quest log would be displayed instead. In theory, the existing questbox could be thrown into includeonly tags, allowing tooltips to continue referencing them while only displaying the quest log format of the quests. Check out my test for an example of the first portion of a quest. Don't ask how I picked that quest to use as my example...I think I "random page"d to it.
Features of this template:

  1. Next/Previous buttons and links only appear if there is a next/previous quest in the chain
  2. Rewards for the quest are displayed exactly as they are in-game, with the money earned following "You will receive", then the choice rewards, then the guaranteed rewards. Any XP and rep bonuses are displayed after the item rewards.
  3. Quest level, difficulty levels, and zone are displayed at the bottom where Accept/Decline would be.
  4. Scrolling text, with the scrollbar located where the in-game scroll bar would be

Possible upgrade:

  1. Change the book icon in the corner based on when the quest was introduced (WoW, BC, WotLK, Cata, MoP, WoD) or when it was removed (overlay an X on the removal expansion)

Also on this test page:

  1. Quest chain sidebox under the infobox. Can be made into a template. Just needs to be in a div with the infobox to float properly.
  2. Short description about the quest before the pages are displayed. More wiki-esque IMO.

Please let me know if you like this and are interested in me implementing it. If you do like it, I would also like the addition of a new .a class in the CSS so I can darken the links. The light blue on parchment isn't really working.

Finally (I think), let me know if you're ever on Chat so I don't have to leave messages on your talk page ^_^.

Oh! One last thing...I'm thinking about putting my name in for admin rights...thoughts? AlexSUCF (talk · contr) 05:47, August 29, 2014 (UTC)

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