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Edit summaries
I see you're using various edit summaries for just about the same thing, and I'd suggest you use some other summary to describe more of it. For example "Corrected spelling/grammar" would mean that you actually correct some spelling/grammar and not making more line spacing. "Cleanup" would be the article is bloated with information not needed, or has some text that can be wikified, and that you're fixing that. g0urra[T҂C] 11:54, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
- Okay, I will put more than one edit summary or expand on single edit summaries when I edit articles. Rolandius
(talk - contr) 12:00, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
Tell me why your spacing edits are called "WW:MOS, Cleanup", as there's no such thing in WW:MOS. g0urra[T҂C] 07:18, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
- The WW:MOS is for a different part I fixed that is why I wrote "WW:MOS; Cleanup" since it is two different things I did. The Cleanup is the spacing edits. Usually I will put "line spacing deleted" or "spacing removed" if there is just one or two but I write Cleanup if there are a lot. Too much line spacing or regular spacing would be Cleanup wouldn't it? Rolandius (talk - contr) 09:11, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
There is no "cleaning up" when you do spacing edits, that's all in your head. There's no difference if there's a space between the DEFAULTSORT and the categories or not, so please stop that. Also, the lead sentence on book articles are supposed to be styled like this, not like "this", which I'm sure you've already read up on WW:MOS - or are you just trying to get away with edits? g0urra[T҂C] 09:19, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
- Well I thought there was a difference as it makes the article shorter if you get rid of extra spacing. Ah no, I read it pretty well. Read WW:MOS again regarding short works as the example right on WW:MOS shows the reader. Rolandius (talk - contr)
Talents
[[:Category:<class> talents]] are automatically added through {{Infobox talent}}. There's no need to add the category manually. g0urra[T҂C] 10:16, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
- Oh man. I saw it in a lot of the other articles so I thought it had to be there. Okay good to know. Rolandius
(talk - contr) 10:17, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
Infobox status guide
- Active= Used for gods, demigods, god-like entities, and a certain very powerful demon.
- Alive= used for most characters who are alive and kicking.
- Deceased= characters who are dead and have not been afflicted with the curse of Undeath.
- NOTE: it is permissible to instead put a short description of the character's death, such as "Slain during the War of the Ancients", "Killed by...", etc.
- Killable= NPCs who are expected to be killed as part of quest chains or raids (ie, the "plot" of the game). This does not apply to characters who are killed by other NPCs (Illidan excepted) as part of world events, nor does it apply to faction leaders who are killed during PvP captial raids.
- Undead= characters who are undead.
- Unknown= the actual status of this character is unknown. If a character's status is known, but it rather complicated (ie, Malfurion), a short description may also be added.
A bit of flexibility is allowed, and there might be a few others knocking around there, but this is the major list.--Ragestorm (talk · contr) 14:50, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
Brewfest Achievement
Ya the {{quality|rare}} came from Thottbot, but there is nothing like that on wowhead, so I think I'm just going to leave it out. But FYI in case you run into it again on another page. -Howbizr (talk) 01:40, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
- Ok cool. I am glad I didn't take something out important. LOL Rolandius (talk - contr) 02:35, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
Template
I used your page as a template for mine beacuse I'm not very good at this wiki coding yet. Hope you don't mind! :)--Denmon (talk) 03:31, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
- It is great. LOL When you get to know more about wiki coding you can do stuff like make your own templates just like those on WoWWiki:List of user templates. I tried making a few. So, if you ever make your own stuff you can either just use it yourself by using your User:Denmon pages or put it on that page by using the "Creating a new user template" infobox and see if people like it. LOL Rolandius (talk - contr) 03:48, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
- Awesome, thanks! :) --Denmon (talk) 14:17, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
Some overkill on corrections/grammar
Make sure you need to add "the" in some cases. This change to Ol' Sooty was probably unnecessary.
It's no big deal, but you could save some time. --
Fandyllic (talk · contr) 7:45 PM PST 4 Nov 2008
- Ya, I guess Grizzlepaw Ridge was okay without "the" in front of it. LOL Rolandius (talk - contr) 02:48, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Image categories
I don't think I'll have to tell you... categorize images that you upload, especially Category:NPC screenshots and Category:Mob screenshots. g0urra[T҂C] 18:03, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, I have been writing the category in the "Summary" box when I upload them. I thought they were sorted later if you wrote it in the small box. Okay i will do. Rolandius (talk - contr) 02:24, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Categories are in plural, ie. [[Category:Mob screenshots]] not [[Category:Mob screenshot]]. g0urra[T҂C] 06:23, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
When tagging for speedy deletion
Please work to remove the links to the page to be speedily deleted. For example, remove the few links that are linked to Stormspire Nexus Guard. Not a big deal, but it makes it easier to maintain for the admins. --Sky (t · c · w) 03:12, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
- Okay. I just made it last night so I didn't check. Rolandius (talk - contr) 03:15, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
My thoughts
While I have largely stayed out of critiquing your edits, I feel that your seemingly vague and possibly pre-made edits summaries are sometimes misleading. Take for example your edits to WoWWikian. While I may not agree, "redundant" which gives some justification and reasoning, is a lot better than "Corrected spelling/grammar" which just says "I don't like it" and gives no context at a glance as to what you did, and you also did a bit more than corrections.--SWM2448 03:44, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
- What do you mean pre-made edit summaries? I clicked on the "Standard summaries" bar and chose which kind sounded like the edit that I had done. I will try to be more concise, but it gets tiring if a person does dozens of edits and has to spend half the time writing in the "Edit summary" box when the "Standard summaries" thing is right there asking the editor to "(click to browse)". Maybe it is just me. Rolandius (talk - contr) 03:50, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
- The edit summary should literally be a edit summary. I would also prefer it if you began using summaries other than the 'default' summaries. Ie, don't just use WW:MOS, say "correcting lead, bolding name", etc etc etc. It makes your edits take a little longer, but it makes it easier by everyone else to check out your edits. --Sky (t · c · w) 07:07, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
RE: quality color
If you're going to have quality colors then use {{quality}}. However the item's name is only required to be mentioned once or enough times that are necessary; it would be bloated to type "Verigan's Fist..." every time instead of "This item...". g0urra[T҂C] 07:18, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
- I did use "This item..." but then I thought too many mentions of "This item..." wouldn't look great. So I thought I would change some of the "This item..." mentions to a colorful mention of the name. Rolandius (talk - contr) 07:28, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
- Also, I didn't use {{quality}} because it would just make a link that way to itself. Rolandius (talk - contr) 08:00, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
- I agree with Gourra that many of the colored name additions were unnecessary, but not particularly harmful (except hard-coded colors, see below). However, Rolandius did have a point about not using {{quality}}.
- You can use
<span class="qc-quality">...</span>to apply quality colors. This is preferred to hard-coded color values, since we can globally fix quality color changes with a CSS change. See MediaWiki:Common.css. -- Fandyllic (talk · contr) 3:52 PM PST 17 Nov 2008
Deletion
The Speedydelete is only used when marking pages for immediate removal, such as in articles that were created as a result of vandalism, botched redirects and the like. If you think an article should be removed, add the normal delete tag and go through the proper channels. Addendum: I see now what you were trying to do, but in situations like this, it's best to just tell one of us rather than speedy it.--Ragestorm (talk · contr) 06:43, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
- Okay, I will leave a message next time it comes up. I think they were mostly "redirect" pages that I wanted an admin to notice and move out of the way. Rolandius (talk - contr) 06:55, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
Line spacing and apostrophes
I don't know why you keep adding excessive line spacing (two line breaks between for example template and text), and apostrophes inside links ([[Blizzard Entertainment|Blizzard's]]), but that's not how you're supposed to write it. g0urra[T҂C] 08:40, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
- Well on the computer, at least mine, if there is only one line break it looks like they run into each other and do not look seperate sort of like how sometimes people use ---- to divide a section from another. If that is how it is supposed to look all smashed together then I will leave it like that. The Blizzard thing once again is about how it looks. It doesn't look that great having a link then another color "'s" attached to the end. It looks much better this way, but once again if that is how you want it I will leave it. Rolandius (talk - contr) 10:53, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
Spirit Healer (NPC)
May I ask why you added the article? The information needed is already on Spirit healer, and the article does not benefit from {{npcbox}}. g0urra[T҂C] 10:49, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
- I made it because the NPC info was not in the previous article which I thought was a general article on spirit healers. If it does not benefit from {{npcbox}} then I guess we don't need it. I thought since there were three different NPC Spirit Healers in WoW with various stats it needed something extra. I wrote the different areas you could find the three. The third Spirit Healer even looks like a Val'kyr which is much different than usual. Rolandius (talk - contr) 10:53, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
- A spirit healer is found in every area with a graveyard. There's no exceptions, and as such there is no need to make an NPC article that exists in every area; it can all be summarized to the main Spirit Healer article. The fact that the third one in Scarlet Enclave has a Val'kyr model can be put in the main Spirit Healer article too; it's not something that requires its own article. g0urra[T҂C] 11:49, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Deadmines has/have
You raise an interesting point. The name is plural, so have makes sense, but it is conceptually a single instance, so has' makes sense.
Hmm, real world example; ... would you say "Carlsbad Caverns have" or "Carlsbad Caverns has"?
Carlsbad Caverns have a souvenier shop - seems to say each Carlsbad Cavern has a souvenier shop, multiple souvenier shops.
Carlsbad Caverns has a souvenier shop - the entire Carlsbad Caverns system has one souvenier shop.
Carlsbad Caverns has/have bats could go either way.
Not exactly crystal clear, but I'd vote for singular location and use has. I won't revert it. Madkaugh (talk) 21:31, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
- I though so too, but then I saw these sentences in the next paragraph:
- "Prior to the First War, the Deadmines were the greatest gold production center in human lands. However, they were abandoned during the First War."
- I am not sure if that is a quote from a source or a user. I thought it might have been a source so I followed that example in order to make everything in one tense. It would sound crazy using "has" but then the next paragraph uses "were". It might be the way you are saying where we should use "has", which means the word "were" in that second paragraph should be "was". I guess it depends if someone can cite those quotes or if it was just a user's own entry. Rolandius (talk - contr) 02:24, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
On Verosogak's talk page
I would suggest not editing that. I unblocked him and summarily invited him to leave his comments on the talk page. --Sky (t · c · w) 04:12, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
- After you unblocked him though, he wrote those comments about his "reasons", and you can see he still is joking around with us. Rolandius (talk - contr) 04:14, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Your recent additions
I don't see Sky's approval on your recent additions, including AKA, BRB, Cheese (Term), Con, and others. These pages appear to be largely similar to problem pages in the past and I don't see much connection with WoW (on another note BCG doesn't seem to be a proper citation, maybe I missed a memo). Please discontinue creating pages until you have Sky's approval, as per what we laid out. --Pcj (T•C) 04:31, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
- Okay. I am using the World of Warcraft Battle Chest Guide, so it is connected with WoW, this time around though and not just making them up. It is not on the citation page so I had to guess as to what the citation would look like. I thought WoWBCG looked okay. I will ask Sky first like you asked. Rolandius (talk - contr) 04:35, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
Character Re-Customization
How about a page on this new feature?[1] Rolandius 
(talk - contr) 05:50, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
Ulduar Earthen
The category's name is Ulduar Earthen with a capital E, they arent exactly like the Frost dwarves etc because they havent really gotten a proper name yet, please reply on my talk if you can.--
{T•C) 03:39, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
RE: Races
There's still a discussion on the template page about the races that should be included. Or do you feel like adding all of the various types of dragonkin that exists? g0urra[T҂C] 12:14, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
- Not until you changed all the dragon races back to black dragon, red dragon, etc. If you think black dragon, red dragon, etc have to be in the infoboxes as races then it should be in the races template.12:23, 19 December 2008 (UTC) Rolandius (talk - contr)
- I thought dragon was a race. It is in the Race template. Now though, after your reverts, it looks like the races are green dragon, red dragon, etc. which I thought were only names of dragonflights. Therefore, if those are all sapient races then they should be included in the Race template. It does make sense. Rolandius (talk - contr) 13:01, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
- I thought dragon was a race. It is in the Race template. Now though, after your reverts, it looks like the races are green dragon, red dragon, etc. which I thought were only names of dragonflights. Therefore, if those are all sapient races then they should be included in the Race template. It does make sense. Rolandius
RE: Edits
See Black wyrm. g0urra[T҂C] 13:20, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
- I read it. That is why I said "Black wyrm=race?" since it is just a growth stage. Rolandius (talk - contr) 13:21, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
- Did you miss the part "A black wyrm is the adult stage of the black dragon life cycle"? I don't know what else to say, the page says it itself. When do we stop at a term? He is a Dragon, but then it was changed to Black dragon and now it is Black wyrm. What is next? Black aspect and then Black mature? Rolandius (talk - contr) 13:28, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
- Did you miss the part "A black wyrm is the adult stage of the black dragon life cycle"? I don't know what else to say, the page says it itself. When do we stop at a term? He is a Dragon, but then it was changed to Black dragon and now it is Black wyrm. What is next? Black aspect and then Black mature? Rolandius
Your recent additions, 2
I don't see Sky's approval on articles such as Village. Did you forget the deal? g0urra[T҂C] 13:38, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
- I was just trying to do some edits for future information. I will ask him again, although I don't see the difference between my pages and hills or mountains. Rolandius (talk - contr) 13:43, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
Moving information manually
Stop moving information manually if you can't move pages to the correct article; the page history doesn't follow, which is crucial. You should poke an admin if you want destination pages deleted. g0urra[T҂C] 06:43, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
A lot of moves going on... hope you plan to update nav templates. 
{T•C) 07:52, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
- If by nav templates you mean the "what links here" articles, I will slowly but surely in the next few hours do it. Although, I thought admins did most of that. :) Rolandius (talk - contr) 07:59, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
- If by nav templates you mean "Warcraft Books - Novels, manga, comics, and pen-and-paper RPG sourcebooks", I will do it now. Rolandius (talk - contr) 08:01, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
- Firstly, don't mark redirect pages for deletion if you haven't changed all the pages that link there to the new article... or just leave the redirect as it.
- And by nav templates I actually mean the templates such as {{Books}}. But hold off on all the moves anyway... where's your source on the "Official names" for some of your moves? {T•C) 08:03, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, good idea or else if it gets deleted too early I won't be able to see the "what links here" articles anymore.
- For the source, I checked on how the Blizzard Store spelled the names of books and/or how the books are spelled on the cover themselves. Rolandius (talk - contr) 08:07, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, very well... always interesting how different sites list them as, some with the colon, some without... some with digits (3) others with numbers (three). It would just be best to leave the redirects there so that anyone can find them no matter which one they use. {T•C) 08:16, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, very well... always interesting how different sites list them as, some with the colon, some without... some with digits (3) others with numbers (three). It would just be best to leave the redirects there so that anyone can find them no matter which one they use.
Blizzard isn't the original publisher of the books; go by the real official site, e.g. BradyGames. g0urra[T҂C] 08:19, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
- Oh I see. Well I went with Ragestorm who said "One way might be to see what sellers are doing (Blizzard's store being the preferable source)". So I looked at how Blizzard spelled the titles on their store site. Also, the titles with numbers are actually right. Just look at the cover images of the books, or if you have the book even better, and you will see that they use roman numerals and whole words, depending on the titles e.g. "II" instead of "2" and "three" instead of "3". You sort of have to double check some titles sometimes because the cover and/or spine of a book will have the right info versus something written up. For instance, if somehow BradyGames sold something called World of Warcraft Besteiry, and you looked at the cover image or owned the book, then you would know something is not right and not copy that for an official page. Or if somehow Blizzard wrote World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich Kin, and you looked at the box image or owned the game, then you would know something is not right and not copy that for an official page. Rolandius (talk - contr) 09:05, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
WC3_Icons/Map_editor_icon_library
Thanks for editing "my" page. I appreciate it. In response to your question in the editing summary - From Wikipedia, "The letters NB or Nb or nb may refer to: (as N.B.) an abbreviation for nota bene, a Latin expression meaning "note well".
RE: Paladins as Caster Dps
Since when is Blizzard's word law? g0urra[T҂C] 07:15, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
- I thought Blizzard was a pretty good source? Like I said earlier, if wowarmory is not an official source then change the article back. I didn't make up the info that Paladins are Caster DPS. I am just the messenger. Rolandius (talk - contr) 07:20, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
Tarantula
Do you have any facts or references at all that those mobs are tarantulas and not spiders? g0urra[T҂C] 13:42, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
- First, they look like tarantulas versus the smaller, not hairy kind of spider. Second, their skin is called tarantula. Third, they share the same model as the tarantulas. I mean tarantulas are spiders in the first place, but I was just trying to get specific. You know like we use "night elf" and "blood elf" not just elf. Rolandius (talk - contr) 03:43, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
- Just because other mobs look like the Tarantula mob doesn't make them tarantulas. You added that they are found in Redridge Mountains, Swamp of Sorrows and Black Morass; however only one of the named tarantulas are in any of those zones. Don't get me started on model names, they are irrelevant. Let's see some references on those claims.
- By the way, isn't this one of the things that you should take up with Sky2042 before doing? g0urra[T҂C] 07:17, 14 January 2009 (UTC)