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|name=Belt of the Ferocious Wolf
 
|quality=epic
 
|icon=inv_belt_plate_raiddeathknight_i_01
 
|bind=bop
 
|slot=Waist
 
|type=Plate
 
|armor=1927
 
|strength=233
 
|stamina=380
 
|rfaction=Guardians of Hyjal
 
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|crit=149
 
|mastery=169
 
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==Source==
 
This item is a reputation reward; you must be {{rep|Exalted}} with [[Guardians of Hyjal]] to purchase it from {{NPC|Neutral|Provisioner Whitecloud|Guardians of Hyjal Quartermaster}} on [[Mount Hyjal]] for {{cost|62|42|60}}.
 
   
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I propose we remove the "Quest:" prefix from quest pages for consistency with every other type of content page. Standard disambiguation naming can apply for any collisions. I raised the point in IRC but found no good reason why we keep it this way. So I want to get others' opinions on this. --{{User:Pcj/sig}} 16:30, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
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{{vote|Yes|sig=[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|talk]]) 17:53, 16 April 2011 (UTC)|I have long advocated for this. It's long overdue and should have been done ''before'' Cataclysm. (See [[WP:Namespaces]]/[[WT:Namespaces]] for a few of my musings.)}}
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{{vote|Yes|—[[User:Egingell|<span class="ajaxttlink">EGingell</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Egingell|T]][[Special:Contributions/Egingell|C]]</sup> {{User:Egingell/Playerlink|Cenarion Circle|Treader|Treader of Cenarion Circle}} 18:07, 16 April 2011 (UTC)|Unless you make Quest a real namespace (hard coding it in LocalSettings.php is required for this), then they're really in the main namespace anyway.}}
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{{vote|No|[[User:Neutralion|Neutralion]] ([[User talk:Neutralion|talk]]) 19:35, 16 April 2011 (UTC)|Against. It will make A LOT of mess and many quests will end like Name (quest) anyway. At last, preffix looks better.}}
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For collisions, we have something of a hierarchy between similar names. I presume quests would be at the bottom of the hierarchy, which is essentially where they are now with the pseudo-namespace. --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|talk]]) 17:58, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
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If it's to remove the pseudo-namespace, then make Quest: a namespace. There is really no need to change how it is - unless you want to break thousands of pages/links. --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 18:38, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
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:That's a false dilemma or possibly a strawman. There's no reason why moving thousands of articles should break thousands of pages/links and I'm not sure where you got the notion. And yes, we should change it: for ''ease'' of future linking and searching. --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|talk]]) 18:50, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
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::From the uses of {{t|quest}} and {{t|questlong}}, links WILL break. Unless you have a grand plan for fixing that, too. --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 19:38, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
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:::Uh, remove Quest: from those templates. --{{User:Pcj/sig}} 19:44, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
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::::And the pages that they link to? You'll bot those links as well? --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 19:48, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
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:::::The quest pages themselves? I thought that was the idea... --{{User:Pcj/sig}} 20:13, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
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::::::...that's not what I meant. If [[:Quest:Skullcrusher the Mountain (Horde)]] gets moved, how are the links going to be, through uses of for example <nowiki>{{quest|Skullcrusher the Mountain (Horde)|Skullcrusher the Mountain}}</nowiki>? Will the disambiguation page be [[Skullcrusher the Mountain (quest)]], and will ''that'' page be handled like the disambiguated quest pages are now? --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 20:48, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
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:::::::Yes, exactly. --{{User:Pcj/sig}} 20:57, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
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Forums: Village pump → Remove quest prefix from quest pages

I propose we remove the "Quest:" prefix from quest pages for consistency with every other type of content page. Standard disambiguation naming can apply for any collisions. I raised the point in IRC but found no good reason why we keep it this way. So I want to get others' opinions on this. --PcjWowpedia wiki manager (TDrop me a line!C207,729 contributions and counting) 16:30, 16 April 2011 (UTC)


Votes

Yes
  1. Yes PcjWowpedia wiki manager (TDrop me a line!C207,729 contributions and counting) 16:30, 16 April 2011 (UTC) - (Nominated)
  2. Yes Sky (talk) 17:53, 16 April 2011 (UTC) - (I have long advocated for this. It's long overdue and should have been done before Cataclysm. (See WP:Namespaces/WT:Namespaces for a few of my musings.))
  3. YesEGingellTC Treader of Cenarion Circle 18:07, 16 April 2011 (UTC) - (Unless you make Quest a real namespace (hard coding it in LocalSettings.php is required for this), then they're really in the main namespace anyway.)
No
  1. No g0urra[T҂C] 16:33, 16 April 2011 (UTC) - ("If it's not broken, don't fix it". Just because it is POSSIBLE doesn't mean that it's OKAY.)
  2. No Neutralion (talk) 19:35, 16 April 2011 (UTC) - (Against. It will make A LOT of mess and many quests will end like Name (quest) anyway. At last, preffix looks better.)

Comments

For collisions, we have something of a hierarchy between similar names. I presume quests would be at the bottom of the hierarchy, which is essentially where they are now with the pseudo-namespace. --Sky (talk) 17:58, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

If it's to remove the pseudo-namespace, then make Quest: a namespace. There is really no need to change how it is - unless you want to break thousands of pages/links. --g0urra[T҂C] 18:38, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

That's a false dilemma or possibly a strawman. There's no reason why moving thousands of articles should break thousands of pages/links and I'm not sure where you got the notion. And yes, we should change it: for ease of future linking and searching. --Sky (talk) 18:50, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
From the uses of {{quest}} and {{questlong}}, links WILL break. Unless you have a grand plan for fixing that, too. --g0urra[T҂C] 19:38, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Uh, remove Quest: from those templates. --PcjWowpedia wiki manager (TDrop me a line!C207,729 contributions and counting) 19:44, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
And the pages that they link to? You'll bot those links as well? --g0urra[T҂C] 19:48, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
The quest pages themselves? I thought that was the idea... --PcjWowpedia wiki manager (TDrop me a line!C207,729 contributions and counting) 20:13, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
...that's not what I meant. If Quest:Skullcrusher the Mountain (Horde) gets moved, how are the links going to be, through uses of for example {{quest|Skullcrusher the Mountain (Horde)|Skullcrusher the Mountain}}? Will the disambiguation page be B [30-35] Skullcrusher the Mountain, and will that page be handled like the disambiguated quest pages are now? --g0urra[T҂C] 20:48, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Yes, exactly. --PcjWowpedia wiki manager (TDrop me a line!C207,729 contributions and counting) 20:57, 16 April 2011 (UTC)