Vehicles by zone

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• ...User talk:Sandwichman2448/Archive01 Archived 13:30, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
• ...User talk:Sandwichman2448/Archive02 Archived 15:16, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
• ...User talk:Sandwichman2448/Archive03 Archived 12:21, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
• ...User talk:Sandwichman2448/Archive04 Archived 20:53, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Stone Lord

Thanks for updating this article--Ashbear160 (talk) 20:00, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Titanic watcher

Hmm i don't want to be rude but Auraya is part of the Ulduar group..., she doesn't have her own icon because nobody bothered to do it yet... I also think it's better if it's organized by which place they are assigned... than this way --Ashbear160 (talk) 16:51, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Stormcub12

i need help with my page...and how do i get my page to the class ideas page under the Necromancer?...plez help a noob—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Stormcub12 (talk · contr).

ya..and my page is in boxes...how do i get it to normal?

o...ok so how do i move it to the class ideas then?

thank you for helping me...when i go on other peorples wiki it dosnt look like mine...how do i change mine to make it look good to read? and did you read it?

Cannon

I've been browseing WoWWiki for the past few weeks and have noticed alot of articles containing references to the board games, novels, comics, and other related media not outlined in the Warcraft games' lore. I have been an avid follower of Blizzard and thier software releases for a very long time, and I've come to discover that alot of Lore holes outlined in the official games have been filled in by the books/comics/etc. Some of this has altered views of major participants in the Warcraft Universe. Are we to accept this as official cannon? And if not should we denote that when referenced it is plausible?

An Example: On one of the pages referencing Arthas in Northrend it is stated that he returned from the cavern of Frostmourne and slaughtered his troops, raising them into undeath, and bringing them back to Lorderan to purge the great kingdom. This is never fully explained in Warcraft III: The Reign of Chaos,(To my waning memory anyway.) isn't it possible that he left the troops back at his base alone? It is obvious he raised the Captain into undeath, but this could be explained by the troops he took with him into the waygate. Isn't it also possible that he just blantantly murdered the rest of his men, leaving them for dead? --Sir Tristram (talk) 04:53, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

It is the practice of Wowpedia to document all sources of Warcraft lore, including but not limited to all of the sources that you have mentioned. As far as how it is specifically handled, you would probably want to read our avoidance of the word "canon", the Neutrality policy, and the Lore policy. I hope that helps.

As for the time between the "Frostmourne" mission and the "Arthas' Betrayal" cinematic, it is one of the sketchier areas in the plot. In Warcraft III, it is just said that he ran off into the frozen wastes of Northrend, and went insane due to Frostmourne. It is never revealed how he got home, just that he did. Arthas: Rise of the Lich King avoids the time period, only showing what Warcraft III did (plus a letter that Arthas wrote to his father somehow). In Lands of Mystery, it is said that survivors of Arthas' and Muradin's expeditions founded Valgarde, so some did survive (expanding on the known survivors shown in The Frozen Throne's undead campaign). However, the quest  [80] Army of the Damned shows that Arthas did kill a great deal of his own men, who marched on Icecrown for unexplained reasons. Also, there are a lot of ghosts at the Forgotten Shore, and in the Halls of Reflection. Death Knight is probably the best depiction of these events, where it shows Arthas making his two captains (or just Falric) and Thassarian into death knights. The waygate (which Arthas: Rise of the Lich King exchanges for a magic non-teleporting lodestone that Muradin had) happened long before anyone became undead in all sources, meaning that the forces that killed Mal'Ganis were alive at the time. Anything you read about this period on Wowpedia is likely extrapolation from all of that, but it is likely that Arthas killed most of his men somewhere between the death of Mal'Ganis and his return home. I'll admit that I might be missing something... like a source that comes out and says that Arthas killed all of his men and sailed home... but I do not think so.--SWM2448 20:58, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the Clarification SWM2448. -- Sir Tristram (Speak, mortal. My Conquests.) 02:20, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Glad to help.--SWM2448 02:31, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Addendum; Does  [80] Army of the Damned apply to the forces back at his base or the few he took with him?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sir Tristram (talk · contr).

I'm guessing you are differentiating between the force the player would take to kill Mal'Ganis, and the units and builds that were left at the base. Are you referring to something else? To anwser your question, I do not actually know where the 1st Legion came from, or what they are. They are in Icecrown, while Arthas' main base was (I'm guessing) at the Forgotten Shore. I have no idea what makes up the units displayed in that quest, and more importantly, what does not.--SWM2448 04:08, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

That is exactly what I was refereing to. And atleast you're not the only one who doesn't know.-- Sir Tristram (Speak, mortal. My Conquests.) 18:56, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

If you notice any information like this that is not cited, please either try and fix it or bring it to the attention of someone so that they can fix it. What passage started this conversation?--SWM2448 20:14, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Honestly, I don't know, I know I was reading WoWWiki so it might be fixed already.-- Sir Tristram (Speak, mortal. My Conquests.) 21:35, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

NIWA Affiliation

Greetings! I'm Xizor, and I represent the Nintendo Independent Wiki Alliance. I am the NIWA Coordinator, and as such, I've been made aware of your guys' split from Wikia, and also WoWwiki. While obviously World of Warcraft is not part of Nintendo's franchises, NIWA is very open to affiliating with non-Nintendo Wikis, even if they do not become members. As such, I would love it if you guys would like to affiliate with NIWA. You can find more information, including my email address on that site. Let me know if you have any questions! If there is some other Administrator I should contact, please point me in that direction, also. =P Hope to hear back soon! --Xizor (talk) 22:41, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Your opinion is desired

Hello.

I just wanted to solicit your opinion on whether {{Instancefooter}} should replace {{Dungeons}}} or not.

Thanks.

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 06:38, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Firelands

Here's link to a video... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqDZcMD5m4Q, 8.40 is when he starts talking about Firelands, and said artwork is at 9.05... Now I think Blizzcon is actually a verfiable source... Add ref in the article too Encaitar (talk) 10:20, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

See Gourra's talk page

User_talk:Gourra#Can_you_fix_Pyroblast.3F. Notifying you, in case Gourra doesn't check his talk page. -- Fandyllic (talk · contribs) 5:26 PM PST 9 Dec 2010

Cape of Stranglethorn's categories

Just a minor issue: Since The Barrens get the "The", I believe all the categories with Cape of Stranglethorn should have that same "The" added since that's the name of the "zone". Renkien (talk) 01:11, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Wrong uploads

I forgot completely that I should be uploading new versions of the old npc photos instead of uploading into a new file. I'd have to ask for you to track them (they're from two hours ago untill now) and delete them. Renkien (talk) 02:08, 10 December 2010 (UTC)