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| name = Caretaker Caice
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| id=28652
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| faction = Horde
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| levelreq = 1
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| level = 1
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| category = Deathknell
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| start = {{NPC||Undertaker Mordo}} {{co|30.1|71.3|Tirisfal Glades}}
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| end = {{NPC||Caretaker Caice}} {{co|30.7|71.4|Tirisfal Glades}}
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| experience = 10
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| previous = {{quest|Those That Couldn't Be Saved}}
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| next = {{quest|The Wakening}}
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== Objectives ==
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== "Without the interaction of intelligent beings" ==
 
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Speak with {{NPC||Caretaker Caice}} at the [[Deathknell Graves]] in [[Tirisfal Glades]].
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I'm not QUITE sure this is the right place for this (or if it needs to be in that other section on discussing the topic itself), but several places on the page it mentions that the Emerald Dream is what Azeroth would be like without the interference of (intelligent) races. This is only partially true, environmentally friendly as it is. :)
 
   
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== Description ==
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The Emerald Dream also doesn't show weathering effects or the ravages of time. It does, however, show nature's effects, like growing plants and trees, but without the accompanying animals. That is, vegetable forms of life but not animal. Mountains do not show the effects of wind or rain weathering, so many craggy spires or deep canyons (formed by running water over eons) are glazed over in the Dream. These are NOT the effects of intelligent beings, but rather of the (non-"nature", in the sense of plantlife) elements. Wind, water, fire, lightning, ect.
 
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I am done with you. There are, however, others who can use your aid.
   
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Caretaker Caice, standing on that stump behind me, can probably give you another assignment. You should speak with him now.
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I'm not sure what a better way to word it is, but it does paint a different picture. A world without the intelligent races would still see weathering effects and animal life, both of which shouldn't be in the Emerald Dream. So...basically I'm saying this is a bit misleading. I'm not sure if whoever wrote it wasn't familiar with that or not, but it was what I noticed most about Malfurion's trips into the Dream in the War of the Ancient's trilogy. Namely how the mountains were smooth and rounded, not weathered by the elements and time. And I can provide quotes supporting this, if needed.
 
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--[[User:SubduedRadical|SubduedRadical]] 23:29, 23 October 2010 (CST)
 
   
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== The Image on This Page ==
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== Completion ==
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Yes? And who might you be?
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What is this image supposed to be? Supposed to prove? It's a swatch from a WC3 map, not anything from WoW, and unless I'm forgetting something major, we never saw the Emerald Dream in WC3. Ergo, I'm going to presume someone's trying to pull a fast one here... --[[User:Brommon|Brommon]] 14:08, 23 May 2006 (EDT)
 
   
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== Old Emerald Dream Data ==
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== Quest progression ==
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{{Fresh out of the Grave}}
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I recently edited that there are in fact areas in the game files you can access with GM powers that represent the Emerald Dream, even posted a youtube link of someone exploring it. It was removed with reasoning "no datamined contet", yet I see Ulduar related articles full of datamined information. And since it was youtubed as if being in-game (private server ofc, but it was/is in game files), so what's the deal? Why's some datamined content allowed to be here? --[[User:RocketBrother|RocketBrother]] ([[User talk:RocketBrother|talk]]) 11:10, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 
   
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== The Ancients ==
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== Patch changes ==
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* {{Patch 4.0.3|note=Added.}}
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It seems to me that the Demigods who die seem to be ending up there. We know for certain that Cenarius is there, and Malorne is rumored to be either there or at Elune's side. Just about all the others who died have either come back to life or rumored to come back soon. Then the whole thing about Ursol and Ursoc just "sleeping until they overcome their wounds." Sounds like a pretty obvious tie in to me. Is this worth mentioning? [[User:Meneldir|Meneldir]] 03:27, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 
   
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== External links ==
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''On Feb. 05 2008 Jeff Kaplan mentioned in an [http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=181521 interview on Wrath of the Lich King] that "some time after release" the next hero class (after Death Knight) might be an Archdruid and that the quest for this hero class would be "directly connected to Malfurion Stormrage and the much-anticipated Emerald Dream.". So one might conclude that the Emerald Dream is planned as a content patch for Wrath of the Lich King.''
 
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I've removed this section because it is misinterpreting the linked article and causing confusion. Kaplan mentioned nothing of the sort in the article. The quoted parts concerning an Archdruid hero class and the Emerald Dream were conjecture on the part of the article's author. They were a "Zitron tip". That is, they were made up. --[[User:Djr|Djr]] 22:26, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
 
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:Ehm... Who wrote that wasn't that far from the truth... Whoa!!! look at this [http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?quest=13074] --[[User:N&#39;Nanz|N&#39;Nanz]] ([[User talk:N&#39;Nanz|talk]]) 22:02, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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::'Archdruid hero class' and 'directly connected to Malfurion Stormrage and the much-anticipated Emerald Dream' are not equal to 'some quests'. Still woot.--{{User:Sandwichman2448/Sig}} 02:04, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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=="Dreamform" and "dream"==
 
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I'll talk about an extract of Stormrage, but no that is no spoiler of the story.
 
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In ''[[Stormrage]]'', Tyrande (roughly) says that they should all fall asleep to get into the Emerald Dream, which Fandral replies that "dreamform" is different from "mortal sleep". But, in ''[[Nightmares]]'', the intro states that those two things are one and the same.
 
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So who is right? Or did I read ''Nightmares'' wrong?
 
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{{User:A'noob/sig}} 13:27, March 12, 2010 (UTC)
 
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:Probably an oversight of earlier accounts. Without knowing the exact phrasing in both stories, a way to combine these statements is that preparing for actual sleep helps the transition into Dreamstate, and/or that the preparation is more like falling asleep than meditation. So ''Nightmares'' just simplified the explanation. ~ [[User:Nathanyel|Nathanyel]] ([[User talk:Nathanyel|talk]]) 17:02, March 14, 2010 (UTC)
 
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::It might be a difference like the one between dreaming and lucid dreaming.--{{User:Sandwichman2448/Sig}} 17:48, March 14, 2010 (UTC)
 
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==What is the threat of the Emerald Dream?==
 
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Linking the Emerald Dream to the non dream could cause problems, but what other threat could it cause?<br />
 
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Does the Naga Queen Azshara linger in the dream in another form, or can people only be in ether the Dream or in regular Azeroth at any given time? <small>—The preceding [[WoWWiki:Signature|unsigned]] comment was added by {{User|Knighthonor}}.</small>
 
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==For a Future Expansion==
 
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So at BlizzCon 2010, it was mentioned that the Emerald Dream, will in fact, be in the future. Should this be included?
 
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[[User:Hu&#39;Alock|Hu&#39;Alock]] ([[User talk:Hu&#39;Alock|talk]]) 18:08, October 24, 2010 (UTC)
 

Revision as of 02:02, 29 October 2010

Template:Stub/Cataclysm

HordeCaretaker Caice
Start Undertaker Mordo [30.1, 71.3]VZ-Tirisfal GladesBlip
End Caretaker Caice [30.7, 71.4]VZ-Tirisfal GladesBlip
Level 1 (Requires 1)
Category Deathknell
Experience 10
Previous Those That Couldn't Be Saved
Next The Wakening

Objectives

Speak with Caretaker Caice at the Deathknell Graves in Tirisfal Glades.

Description

I am done with you. There are, however, others who can use your aid.

Caretaker Caice, standing on that stump behind me, can probably give you another assignment. You should speak with him now.

Completion

Yes? And who might you be?

Quest progression

  1. H IconSmall Undead MaleIconSmall Undead Female [1-10] Fresh out of the Grave
  2. H IconSmall Undead MaleIconSmall Undead Female [1-10] The Shadow Grave
  3. H IconSmall Undead MaleIconSmall Undead Female [1-10] Those That Couldn't Be Saved
  4. H [1] Caretaker Caice
  5. H IconSmall Undead MaleIconSmall Undead Female [1-10] The Wakening
  6. H IconSmall Undead MaleIconSmall Undead Female [1-10] Beyond the Grave
  7. H IconSmall Undead MaleIconSmall Undead Female [1-10] Recruitment
  8. H IconSmall Undead MaleIconSmall Undead Female [1-10] Shadow Priest Sarvis
  9. H [1-10] Scourge on our Perimeter
  10. H [1-10] Novice Elreth (optional)
  11. H [1-10] The Truth of the Grave
  12. H [1-10] The Executor In the Field
  13. H [1-10] The Damned
  14. H [1-10] Night Web's Hollow
  15. H [1-10] No Better Than the Zombies
  16. H [1-10] Assault on the Rotbrain Encampment
  17. H [1-10] Vital Intelligence

Patch changes

External links